The Islanders Pick 5th: A retrospective, from Kaspar to Bails
In Hockey Independent's draft survey of Islanders bloggers (majority bet: Gudbranson), just about every punter couldn't speculate on the Islanders' plans without bringing up the last time the Islanders held the #5 overall pick. That was of course when they then had the #7, followed quickly by the #9, followed quickly by one Josh Bailey.
Unfortunately, that was hardly the only time we've been in this position. In honor of Draft Week, let's look back at all the fifth-overall selections in Islanders history:
2008
The aforementioned gutsy double-trade down. Writing for a now-defunct site (archives: kaput), I was stunned by this but hardly discouraged. I can honestly say I wasn't worried: The Islanders needed to stock the cupboard with more picks, and the drop off from the "big three" offensive defensemen to stay-at-home Luke Schenn was big enough that I was fine passing on him for whomever Garth Snow and company had their eye on. Nikita Filatov was always a size and KHL risk. Today that selection of character two-way center (wait...or is it left wing?) Bailey still looks solid. The extra picks the Islanders collected look poised to pay off in a variety of permutations.
2000
It will always be overshadowed by The Big Move by Mike "Voldemort" Milbury to draft Rick DiPietro and eject Roberto Luongo, but this was also the year the Islanders picked Raffi Torres at #5. Between DP and Torres were Dany Heatley, Marian Gaborik and Roteslav Klesla. Behind Torres was Scott Hartnell and mostly a pile of rubbish until later in the first, where the Volchenkovs, Boyes's, and Ott's come out.
Torres, like virtually every Voldemort draft selection, would become an ex-Islander before anyone knew what his real potential would be.
1999
The year of four Islanders first-rounders, with Tim Connolly going first at #5 overall. Somehow Voldemort saw enough in Connolly to draft him yet immediately became disappointed with him. He happily dumped him after two seasons. A decade later, he was still bitter, calling Connolly "a dink" on a Bruins broadcast.
Except for the Sedins, 1999 was an awful, awful draft year, so Voldemort actually did well with what he had. Between and after Connolly at #5 and Taylor Pyatt at #8 was ... rubbish. In the first two rounds, no one outside of the Sedins has played more NHL games than Connolly and Pyatt.
1997
It's as if Voldemort made a specialty out of grabbing two high picks and using one to take the highest-selected goaltender ever. Before there was DiPietro, there was Roberto Luongo at #4 overall. One pick later, Voldemort took Eric Brewer, a big defenseman with enticing tools. He's currently captain of the Blues, though you'll find few Blues fans who are happy with that situation.
Minus one hundred and eight. Man, he's been on some bad teams.
I sometimes wonder what would have happened if Voldemort stuck with Brewer instead of entering his instant attack mode, saying he's sniffing glue and shipping him off like, well, like virtually every pick he ever made. After 89 games, Brewer went to Edmonton with Josh Green and a 2nd for Roman Hamrlik and had a mild career renaissance. This was when Glen Sather was still in Edmonton, crying each week about what he could do with a bigger budget. (HA!) So getting Hamrlik was nice, but hardly an achievement considering the Oilers always Pocklington'd their good players away.
1992
Boo-yah! Darius Kasparaitis at #5. What a pick. An instant help, part of that beloved 1993 playoff team that ... is still the last Islanders squad to win a playoff series. Kaspar was awesome, even if he let his rookie year go to his head a bit.
Did I mention Kasparaitis, who was drafted by The Architect and logged 863 NHL games, was awesome? Naturally Milbury traded him. (With Andreas Johansson, for Bryan Smolinski.)
1990-91
That's it, actually. There were no Islanders selections at #5 overall before Kasparaitis. But in 1990 and 1991, the Isles drafted Scott Scissons at #6 and Scott Lachance at #4, respectively. It doesn't seem right to do a draft retrospective without mentioning the two Scotts, one who played 2 NHL games, the other who played 819. (Can you believe Lachance played 819 NHL games?! Me neither.)
In that vicinity is Brad Dalgarno at #6 in 1986 (321 NHL games, shortened by injury), Pat LaFontaine at #3 (1983), and Clark Gillies at #4 (1974). That five-spot sure looks like a fulcrum in the typical draft's talent depth, eh?
So, dear reader, maybe this Friday there is another Kasparaitis under our pillow (Gudbranson?). Maybe there's a Connolly (a Russian?). Maybe there's a gutsy trade down (Nino?). Whatever happens, how cool would it be if the kid they select is better than every other Islander fifth-overall pick to come before him?
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Not trying to be a conspiracy theorist but
Do u think the Isles will draft the guy who is available with the fewest votes by Isles fans to save on the free tickets
Kasparaitis
My memory might not be so good, but I swear sometime in 99 (probably around when he traded Smoliniski with Palffy) Voldemort actually admitted that trading Kasparaitis was one move he regretted.
The Islanders went from Marty McInnis and a 2nd Overall pick to Jesse Joensuu.
trader garth
if he trades down again,i might have to shoot mtself.Gudbranson,fowler,connolly or bust!
by Lakewood Islander on Jun 23, 2010 11:30 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
But what if he gets Nino by trading down then uses those picks and a second rounder for a McIlarth, Tinordi, or Merril. All are 6’ 3" and up and we get the big power forward we need. Connolly might be available at 7 if we trade down.
by rockhouse15 on Jun 23, 2010 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions
a gamble
im not willing to take that chance. i believe there is a better chance mcilrath droos than connolly. trade up with 2nd& 3rd to get another 1st
by Lakewood Islander on Jun 23, 2010 1:14 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Unless FL trades their #3
they are all but certain to pick Connolly—who is a HUGE risk no matter what anybody says. Moreover, for all the hype, his one good season was barely comparable to Nino’s first season here. Nino is a better choice at forward than Connolly.
I'm with you
G-F-C or bust. Nino who -(reminds me of Tartar).
Draft Connolly, we need more offence- Don't gimme no hip.
Darius Kasperitis
The one man wrecking baal of a D man. Hit anybody, and Let Malakov carry the puck. Before the season even started you knew how big this was because Upper Deck put them both on a rookie card. And I got them to sign it!!!
Darius did not come from the Rodina very pretty…in fact a pit bull is prettier.
Name a player with such potential impact and I will give you two!!
Just saying his name sends a chill down my back.
And to think, Mad Mike put together some Isles draftees and FA’s that cliqued! Go Figure.
(maybe his wife put him on decaf that year)
Get out of the sticks, Charles, move to Queens!! Come, Get some respect a Professional team deserves!!
over hype
I worry we pump up these kids potential too much- but if things turn out as advertised I think we are in for a key piece of the furture.(sorry about the Nino thing BC- I know your all about him, but I’m hoping for Connolly).
Draft Connolly, we need more offence- Don't gimme no hip.
Don't think its overhype
I think its fair to say that whoever we pick at #5 or even if we trade down, that person is likely to be better than anyone else we have ever drafted at #5.
As for Nino, no need to be sorry. Firstly, I do not believe that Connolly will be available at #5. Secondly, I think we are all going to be happy about that in the end.
nino bolts as soon as he’s UFA if he gets drafted by the isles, and that’s a 100% guarantee
clean and sober for 2 months and change... only thing different is that now i KNOW i'm the asshole everyone says i am :-)
Overhype
The hype is definitely a danger, but one thing in teams’ favor these days over drafts of yesteryear is the scouting is much more thorough and the players have a much better idea (through coaching and training) of what it takes tor each their potential.
Still a crapshoot, just not the crapshoot it once was.
Lighthouse Hockey: Now accepting applications for 2015.
And with the 5th pick of the draft the Isles pick Landon Donovan.
Sending the Isles to China was Wang's vision of making Strange Brew 2: Stranger Brew.
Ok, I can agree to that one.
Sending the Isles to China was Wang's vision of making Strange Brew 2: Stranger Brew.
by metalcoconut on Jun 23, 2010 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions
longtime no see, been away for a bit but back with u boys for the draft
When looking back at 08 draft i remember so-called experts saying it was very deep and that u could find alot of players with first rnd grades in the 2nd rnd so i would give jawnowkskis and snow a lil break not only stock-piling but capitilizing on quantity and quality of players available also credit the with petrov in 3rd also w 1st rnd talent
From what i heard last yr and this yrs draft is stocked poorly so i see the isles staying put and only moving up
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