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What's the Worst Islanders Draft Class? - Added 2003 to Poll

I took a quick look around at the Isles drafts since '79. I think three classes could easily be the worst, throwing in a 4th just to round things out. Consider that an average NHL career is 318 games.

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1988

Pro: Marty McInnis with 798 games is the only bright spot of this class. Danny Lorenz also managed to make the NHL with 8 games across 3 season on the Island.

Cons: With 3 picks in the top 40, The Isles picked Kevin Cheveldayoff (1st Rounder) Wayne Doucet (2nd) and Sean LeBrun (2nd). All three never made it to the NHL level, and were out of hockey all together by 95.

Saving Grace: Nothing really, only 1 other player picked in the first round never made it to the NHL that year (Kory Kocur by Detroit) and the Isles managed to draft 2 of the 7 2nd rounders that never played an NHL game that year.

1990

Pro: Chris Taylor with 149 NHL games is still playing today for the Rochester Americans in the AHL. Dan Plante managed 159 games mostly over 2 seasons with the Islanders.

Cons: Scott Scissons. Most Isles fans know  him well enough to not need an introduction. But just in case, Scott was picked 6th overall, played 2 NHL games, oh and the 2 Players picked before him and after him in order? Mike Ricci, Jaromir Jagr, Darryl Sydor, Derian Hatcher. Of the players picked in the first round, Scissons is the only one to play less then 100 games, with only 2 other players never making the NHL from that first round. Of the rest of the picks that never played an NHL game, only 11th Rounder Martin Lacroix managed to make it to the AHL for all of 25 games.

Saving Grace: Not much, nearly every round had at least 3-4 NHL Caliber players and a lot of hidden gems (Peter Bondra anyone?) late in the draft.

2001

Pro: Andy Chiodo... Who wasn't signed by us and was re-drafted by the Penguins who in complete desperation let him actually play 8 NHL Games over 2 seasons.

Cons: Well when you trade EVERY PICK for the first three rounds you kind of end up with a draft like this. With their first pick they went with Cory Stillman (Not the good one) who has bounced around some rookie training camps but is continually nagged by injuries. Dusan Salficky played 4 AHL games before returning to Europe. Jan Holub and Roman Kukhtinov never left Europe. Mike Bray ironically played with Stillman in the IHL last year. Juha-Pekka Ketola and Byran Perez appear to be done with hockey.

Saving grace: Well they did trade their first, second and third rounder. In Fairness Acouin is better then anyone that went in the 2nd or 3rd rounds. And as long as you didn't want some punk named Spezza who only averages 1 point a game you'd be in good shape.

2003 (Via Hanz Und Franz)

Hands down 2003. Sure Nilsson and Gervais are passable NHLers, but Nilsson will be on his 3rd organization before he turns 26 this offseason. But the damning evidence that this was the worst Isles draft comes from the 2nd round.

Dmitri Chernykh – 48th Overall – 0 NHL games played, 0 AHL games played, 37 ECHL games played, only this year has he made it onto even a KHL team. The next pick? Nashville takes Shea Weber.

Evgeny Tunik – 53rd Overall – 0 NHL games played, 61 AHL games played. Out of hockey since 2008. Next pick? Dallas takes B.J. Crombeen.

Jeremy Colliton – 58th Overall – 46 NHL games over 4 years. Currently playing in the Elitserien, although his team Rogle was relegated to the Allsvenskan. Players taken after him in the 2nd round? #61 Maxim LaPierre, #62 David Backes and #64 Jimmy Howard

Remember Milbury also traded up out of the 3rd round to get Tunik as well. You can’t have 3 2nd round picks in a year and have a combined 46 NHL games between them (All of which came from Colliton as well). When you consider who the Isles passed over to select the colossal busts of Chernykh and Tunik you have by far the most inept draft.

2005

Pro: We somehow got the Oilers to take O'Marra off our hands in the Smyth deal? Maybe Dustin Kohn.

Con: The last hurrrah of Milbury Drafts has a Milbury trademark pick. Masi Marjamaki was a fifth round pick and probably wouldn't be that important. If not for the fact that Milbury decided to pick Masi mostly likely due to Boston picking him in the 2nd round in 2003 and never signing him. Masi played 2 seasons for Bridgeport and 1 game for the Isles and is back in Finland today. O'Mara will probably never be an NHL Talent,  Kohn is just as borderline. Shea Guthrie is listed on the Islanders site, but his last news story was the 2008 Prospect camp for them. Tyrell Mason recently graduated and played 47 games in the CHL last season. Luciano Aquino doesn't look like he'll be back in the States anytime soon.

Usually 4 years out is too soon to say something about a class, and Kohn or O'Marra might make something of themselves. But for the most part it looks like Milbury's last draft was one of his worst. Outside of Kohn and O'Marra, the rest of them aren't even listed over at Hockey's Future.

Saving Grace: Well if Kohn can become an NHL regular, and suddenly Guthrie and Mason start showing some higher level talent then maybe. This wasn't a particularly bad draft and we had the mid round pick.

Other Possible Years:

Some of my other choices and reasons why I let them go

1992: If it was just Kaspuritis I would have added it, but Armstrong had a decent career too.
1994: The Brett Lindros year, but Jason Strudwick, Brad Lukowich and Dick Tarnstrom had decent NHL careers.
1998: I probably should have, as the only player with a long NHL Career was Rupp, who we never signed. But he does have Multiple Stanley Cup rings.
2002: Is saved by Nielsen and Bergie
2003: Gervais and Nilsson are on the way to solid careers. Hopefully at least for Bruno.
2007: Too Soon.

Poll
Which Islanders Draft Class was the Worst?
1988 Class
3 votes
1990 Class
48 votes
2001 Class
32 votes
2003 Class
42 votes
2005 Class
9 votes

134 votes | Poll has closed

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2003

Hands down 2003. Sure Nilsson and Gervais are passable NHLers, but Nilsson will be on his 3rd organization before he turns 26 this offseason. But the damning evidence that this was the worst Isles draft comes from the 2nd round.

Dmitri Chernykh – 48th Overall – 0 NHL games played, 0 AHL games played, 37 ECHL games played, only this year has he made it onto even a KHL team. The next pick? Nashville takes Shea Weber.

Evgeny Tunik – 53rd Overall – 0 NHL games played, 61 AHL games played. Out of hockey since 2008. Next pick? Dallas takes B.J. Crombeen.

Jeremy Colliton – 58th Overall – 46 NHL games over 4 years. Currently playing in the Elitserien, although his team Rogle was relegated to the Allsvenskan. Players taken after him in the 2nd round? #61 Maxim LaPierre, #62 David Backes and #64 Jimmy Howard

Remember Milbury also traded up out of the 3rd round to get Tunik as well. You can’t have 3 2nd round picks in a year and have a combined 46 NHL games between them (All of which came from Colliton as well). When you consider who the Isles passed over to select the colossal busts of Chernykh and Tunik you have by far the most inept draft.

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by David Hanssen on May 6, 2010 3:12 PM EDT reply actions  

I didn’t realize Milbury traded out of the 3rd, or that talented players were that close at hand. I’m going to add 2003 to the Pool.

The Islanders went from Marty McInnis and a 2nd Overall pick to Jesse Joensuu.

by Mark D on May 6, 2010 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Great topic

1988 and 1990 still sting because I’ve always had the sinking feeling that those were misses that set the table for the mid-90s fall (even though ownership and mismanagement had much more to do with that era).

One thing to think about, which for the life of me I can’t find at the moment (I think either On the Forecheck or Birdwatchers Anonymous has a lot of work on this), is the relative quality of each year’s overall pool of players. By that measure, 2003 looks really bad for the Isles simply because there are studs throughout the first round … and the Isles got Nilsson.

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by Dominik on May 6, 2010 4:01 PM EDT reply actions  

See I still give 2003 the edge over 88 and 90 becuase of the colossal busts of the 2nd round. Forget what I said above about who was drafted after each player (I know it isn’t pretty). I also know the numbers on 2nd rounders becoming every day NHLers isn’t pretty (Somewhere in the 50% range) but by those numbers one of those three should be contributing on an NHL team. None of them are. Chernykh played in either the ECHL or Russia’s 2nd league up until becoming a KHL 4th liner this year, Tunik is totally out of hockey and has been for the last 3 seasons and Colliton is in Europe now.

After that it is also pretty stark outside of Gervais as well. There was no 3rd, 5th or 9th rounder as they were used to trade up for Tunik, 4th Rounder Stefan Blaho unfortunately died in 2006 in a car accident, 7th rounder Denis Rehak bounced around the lower Czech and Slovakian leagues, 8th Rounder Cody Blanshand was a career ECHL/CHLer, and Igor Volkov is still technically Isles property but will never see NHL ice.

Mighty Mighty Metro!

by David Hanssen on May 6, 2010 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Objectively, I bet I’d agree with that. Emotionally, I think I was numb by 2003 so it doesn’t burn me as much (which makes no sense, I know, other than via some detached victim’s syndrome).

Come to think of it, as I stand here today looking back on those years, I’m amazed I find hope in Islanders drafts again. There were years where no matter what happened, I just assumed we’d either get burned or we’d burn ourselves (“we” being management).

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by Dominik on May 6, 2010 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

How sad is it that two teams good enough to win the Stanley Cup have looked at Mike Rupp and said “We can use him” meanwhile Milbury blows a first round pick on him and never even bothers to sign him.

The Islanders went from Marty McInnis and a 2nd Overall pick to Jesse Joensuu.

by Mark D on May 6, 2010 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh man, as if on cue

Just for you, WebBard: Don Maloney is voted one of the finalists for the first-ever GMs Voting for GMs Awards.

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by Dominik on May 6, 2010 4:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Facepalm

I think he should never be up for it for the Lindros move and the Turregon trade.

The Islanders went from Marty McInnis and a 2nd Overall pick to Jesse Joensuu.

by Mark D on May 6, 2010 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

SCISSONS, just ugh.

This for me beats the credentials of the 2003 draft as being terrible, as the odds of getting a good player in the 2nd round (even with multiple picks)are a lot lower than a 6th overall pick.

by HugoAgogo on May 7, 2010 5:35 PM EDT reply actions  

just remember

In 1990 there were only 21 spots. For example, Felix Potvin went #31 overall to Toronto – what would have been the first pick of the second round today was well into the second. (And with Doug Weight going #34, Geoff Sanderson going #36 (to the Whalers!), and Mikael Renberg going #40, there was a lot of talent the Isles passed up twice by taking Chris Taylor #27.

Of course, Scissons instead of Sydor, Hatcher , Tkachuk, Brodeur, or even Smolinski was just PEACHY.

Of course I'm an expert, I've seen Slap Shot eleven times!

by mikb on May 10, 2010 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Potvin the Lesser

If only they’d drafted Felix, then Milbury couldn’t have traded Berard for him, then maybe Berard stays and doesn’t get his eye torn by Hossa, then …

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by Dominik on May 10, 2010 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Milbury trades him for someone else even more useless.

The Islanders went from Marty McInnis and a 2nd Overall pick to Jesse Joensuu.

by Mark D on May 12, 2010 1:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Jeff Hackett?

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by David Hanssen on May 12, 2010 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ok where is the worst draft class 1989...

with the #2 overall pick… Dave Chyzowski

next three picks: Scott Thornton, Stu Barnes, Bill Guerin

Yes we got Green in the second and Malakov in the 10th, but Dave Chyzowski where we took him was the worst Islander pick of all time.

by Judgegavel on May 14, 2010 7:20 PM EDT reply actions  

And we had 14 picks...

of which the only other NHLers were Jeff Zent, Brent Greive, Bret Harkins, and Ian Fraiser, who were just awful.

The 1990’s Detroit Red Wings were built in this draft btw. (Sillinger, Lidstrom, Federov, Drake, Konstantinov), and were all taken after the Isles picks in their respective rounds.

by Judgegavel on May 14, 2010 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Going to have to disagree

It’s easily better then the 88 Class

89 Class had 2 Players who had long NHL Careers (average Career is 325 games) Green and Malkahov, 3 Players who played nearly 100 games (Grieve, Harkins, Fraser) and another that played 30 games (Zent)

88 Had McInnis with 800 games and Lorenz with 8. That’s it.

When picking years I didn’t look at who they could have picked (Outside of Scott Scisson, just because the gap between him and the players before/after were so huge). I consider drafts a crap shoot for the most part, and there’s no saying how someone might have developed had they been drafted by a different team.

The Islanders went from Marty McInnis and a 2nd Overall pick to Jesse Joensuu.

by Mark D on May 14, 2010 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, for me even if 1989 is in the picture, Green and Malakhov move it out. Chyzowski was bad, but particularly back then there were tons of hyped kids like him who didn’t pan out. At least they salvaged (or developed) some keepers in that draft.

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by Dominik on May 14, 2010 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

But again it easily had the biggest bust pick ever Chyzowski

it also had 14 picks (to only 12 in 1988), and we were picking 16th most rounds, as opposed to 2nd in 1989 not to mention take a look at the 88 draft, while it was a better first round, it sucked overall as a whole, no one got anything spectacular.

And I don’t care how many games Grieve, Harkins, and Fraser played in they were as good as bust in my eyes.

by Judgegavel on May 14, 2010 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

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