"That's a tough thing, and as much as I would love him to play here, for my mind it would just be, you know, the old dad syndrome. And boy we've worked hard to try to get out of that; he's his own man and he's made his own image and player profile ... As much as I'd love to see it I think it would work against him."
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I would like to the rationale behind "It would work against him"
In what manner would it “work against him”?
I don’t think anyone expects him to be like his dad. If all kids of Islanders alumni played like their parents more would have been drafted by them not to mention I’m sure a few would would have been rushed through our system rather than dying on the vine.
any kid who loves his dad is probably a little in awe of him
add to that his dad fulfilled every hockey player’s dream in scoring the goal that won a Stanley Cup AND was so beloved on Long Island for everything he did on and off the ice—that’s a lot for a kid to live up to. Fans would always be comparing him to Bobby and that would be a problem.
AND was so beloved on Long Island for everything he did on and off the ice
that he was called Mr. Islander—forgot to add that.
Fans would always be comparing him to Bobby and that would be a problem.
I guess that’s Bobby’s fear — and I suppose rightfully so. That’s why I’d hate for him to have been drafted by the Isles. Now that Erik is established as a player, and the ceiling on him in the NHL is pretty clear (and modest), I’d figure fans would be far more realistic about it. If all Erik did were bring his usual level of effort, only the idiots who harp on absolutely everyone anyway — legacy or not — would treat him poorly.
But I’ve been wrong in guessing human behavior many times before.
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based on Bobby's statement
I would say that it would be unlikely that he would come here. Hopefully Bobby can at least steer him clear of Seventh Avenue.
While Eric Nystrom is certainly not his father, if he did sign with the Islanders via free agency, I do believe that it would put a few more fans in the seats. There would be a hometown discount of sorts if Eric Nystrom decided to become an Islander, since he’s certainly aware of any benefits that come with being on Long Island. However, the possbility of unrealistic comparisons to Bobby Nystrom does exist.
That being said, I’m not so sure where Eric Nystrom would fit on next season’s Islanders. We talk so much about developing our prospects that I think Nystrom would be used as a fill-in before someone takes his place. I do see Eric Nystrom coming back east, but I would expect him to land on one of the teams where there may be a greater role for him (like the Thrashers or Hurricanes).
That being said, I’m not so sure where Eric Nystrom would fit on next season’s Islanders
Yeah, it’s really not a priority for me (even though I did a post or two about it). I just figure the Islanders are bound to sign a “veteran” 3rd/4th-liner PK type guy this summer, so if they’re going to do it why not try one with some good karma and who would put a few extra butts in the seats?
And if they end up having to use some filler just to get to the cap floor, I’d certainly rather them overpay for him than for the 2010 version of, say, The Shell of Ales Kotalik.
Plus, I do like the way the guy plays.
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erik
i understand sentementality,but he aint his dad and i dont see him as having huge upside. who needs him so badly?
by Lakewood Islander on May 26, 2010 6:28 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I don’t think it’s a case of anyone needing him badly. More a case of, if the Islanders need to sign that type of 3rd/4th liner via free agency anyway, why not make it him since it would be fun for (some) fans and potentially fun for him? But that is assuming people had realistic expectations, which I’d hope they would.
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He doesn’t say that he would stop him from coming here. So perhaps dad is just challenging his son publicly.
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how would he stop him from coming?
he probably had already discussed it with him and advised against it. It sounds to me as if they are pretty tight and that Eric will likely heed his dad’s advice.
Mama Nystrom
The funny thing in the interview was Bobby talking about Eric’s mom. Something about “We call her ‘The GM’ because” she gives him enough input about his play when he’s playing out west, so playing on the Isle would be too much.
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Good luck with that. Let me know how that works for you.
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by metalcoconut on May 27, 2010 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions
maybe Dad was just telling the truth?
Considering how bughouse we fans are about Zach Parise, Bobby Ny has a good point. Also note that people here went bughouse about Nilsson over Parise BEFORE we had seen either of them fire a puck in anger at a professional goalkeeper. It had nothing to do with Parise turning into one of the five best forwards in the league, and everything to do with him being JP’s kid. If in some bizarro mirror-universe league, Evil Bearded Nilsson is potting 40 goals a year for the Devils* while Parise bounces from us to Edmonton to who-knows-where, we would be the first people shrieking about Milbury letting the past interfere with drafting a good team.
* although in Mirror-Universe League, it would be the Saints or Angels, wouldn’t it?
Nilsson has his own NHL dad, I know, but Kent didn’t play here. The pressures are different. Had Calgary drafted Nilsson instead, he would have the same challenges. And given that we did take Nilsson in real life, he would have had to be very successful to overcome the fan-imposed stigma of being here instead of JP Parise’s son – likely more successful than Zack.
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* although in Mirror-Universe League, it would be the Saints or Angels, wouldn’t it?
And they’d be a free-wheeling, all-offense team.
The concerns you mention are exactly why I think it’s best he wasn’t drafted by the Isles, but why now I’d figure it’d be much easier for him to play here without the Ny Son’s Burden keeping him down. He’s had (parts of) four full seasons, he’s 27 now — I’d think fans should know what they were getting.
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A little off topic.
Oooo I just saw that the Texas Stars will be hosting the Memorial Cup Finals. I might be able to go check that out and see the Hershey Bears Mean Machine.
Meaningful hockey at an arena near me in the month of June…who would have guessed?
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Sounds like the atmosphere there has been great, too. I’m pondering some sort of minor-league tour next year and that has me thinking…
(Oh, and: Psst…I think your keyboard relayed the wrong Cup on you…)
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I was thinking Memorial and thinking Calder
My bad. So like I meant to say Calder Cup finals.
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by metalcoconut on May 27, 2010 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Not to mention...
…if you swing by Austin I can give you a pretty good tour of the area. It really is a fun town as it is a young town due to UT. However, we are looking into moving and I don’t know how much longer I will be here. So, I will have to let you know.
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by metalcoconut on May 27, 2010 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Where else…Long Island. Actually that is the plan but there are a couple of snags that have to be worked out. Therefore I am uncertain as to when we are moving. The only other location that we were looking at was around the King of Prussia area in PA. I used to live in both places and like both of them. She just wants to see a different area. She has been in Austin for 14 years and wants a change of pace.
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by metalcoconut on May 27, 2010 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions
HAMONIC IS SIGNED!
CB just reported that the deal is done. :) Here is to a brighter tomorrow.
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When is our deadline on him?
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by metalcoconut on May 27, 2010 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions
For 2008 picks not in college
It’s June. Whether it’s June 1 or June 15 depends on where you look (the Swedish papers are saying June 15 for Ullstrom, though I thought it was June 1 for Ridderwall b/c of the new transfer agreement), but basically regular age 2008 picks must be signed or they can re-enter the draft.
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Let’s see … the Rangers liked Niemi because they saw him next to their guy in Saskatoon, so … Snow should get Bryan Murray on the phone!
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Yeah just spitballing
I have a feeling that Garth will be trying to package some deals to either bring in a vet as the Wild did with Barker or to get another first rounder or two. Spurgeon may have been drafted in the sixth round, but he is playing like a late first or early second round pick.
Was just goofing with this, but...
Vancouver needs defensive prospects and he is likely to be better and certainly more NHL ready than anybody they could get at #25—think that’s their slot. They might want someone bigger, but its a thought.
Yeah, don’t you think their fans would rebel if they addressed their defense with an sub-6-foot 6th round pick? (Fair or not…)
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we also could offer Chef Bruno and free cooking lessons
and offer the hint that a certain 6’6" Ontario boy can’t resist Chef Bruno’s pastry puffs.
Eric Nystom
Anyone who watches Eric Nystrom play a lot should know exactly what type of player they are getting.That is a player that plays hard on every shift,skates well,is an exellent penalty killer(something the Islanders seemingly don’t currently excel at),can handle himself in a scrap and does’nt wilt in the more intense atmosphere of NHL playoffs.Since we are talking playoffs I would think he is exactly the type of player who would be more than a fill-in and someone who could be a long term solution.You will not please all the people all of the time but I think the vast majority would welcome him here and be very supportive of the way he plays the game.
Interesting thought
Sounds like you’re looking at Ny the Younger as a PK wingman for the Mighty Frans Neilsen.
OOOOOH I call dibs on “Mighty Frans Neilsen” for a band name!
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