Unholy Dealings: Islanders trade with Rangers, Jyri Niemi for 6th-round pick
by Dominik on May 25, 2010 4:38 PM EDT
in Roster Manoeuvres in the Dark
Email
PrintThe New York Islanders have traded defenseman Jyri Niemi to the New York Rangers in exchange for a sixth round draft pick in the 2010 NHL Entry Draft.
Niemi, a native of Hameenkyro, Finland, was drafted by the Islanders in the third round of the 2008 NHL Entry Draft. The 6'2, 192 pound defenseman spent the last three seasons with the Saskatoon Blades of the WHL.>>team release
This is interesting. Niemi [stats at HockeyDB] was as good as gone -- after his Saskatoon season ended, it even sounded like he might be playing in Europe -- so now Garth Snow has gotten a small asset for him, though the drawback is he's signed a deal with the Short Island Smurfs. In the annals of unholy dealings, the Islanders haven't traded with the Rangers since 1972, though plenty of players by this point have played for both teams, even in consecutive seasons. (That trade was for Ron Stewart, whom my dad -- who got me into this mess -- would remind me played briefly with Al Arbour on the Blues.)
So to update: Of the six picks the Islanders collected for rounds 2-3 in the 2008 draft, this now puts the ledger at: Corey Trivino (#36 overall, still in college, BU, but hitting hurdles), Aaron Ness (#40, still in college, Minnesota), Travis Hamonic (#53, gonna be a player very soon), David Toews (#66, hoping to leave college for juniors), Jyri Niemi (#72, dealt for a 6th), and Kiril Petrov (#73, should be here for prospect camp, though he's still KHL property). Which shows you never know with the draft, even in round 2.
Rangers fans obviously see this as a low-risk move, while for the Islanders, they'd made their decision on Niemi (or is it that Niemi made his decision on them?), so at least they get one more chip for him, however small. Personally, I don't relish even the remote chance that Niemi turns into a player who can haunt us, but that thought won't keep me up at night. In any case, I'll be checking out Blueshirt Banter for their reaction, to see if they feel as dirty as I do.
87 comments
|
0 recs |
Do you like this story?
Comments
I can’t find it now, but I read after his Blades season was up him cryptically telling reporters he had “options” beyond the Islanders. Couldn’t tell if it was him not wanting them or vice versa, but he had his eye on Europe and/or another team.
Which leads us to: Why?
Lighthouse Hockey: Playing the NHL Lotto
a thought
It could be as simple as math.
Streit… Hillen… MacDonald… Hamonic… Gervais… Reese… FA whomever… eventually de Haan… incoming draftee… the ghost of Radek Martinek…
Maybe he thought that in a year or two there would be no room for him. The Rags, on the other hand, have Staal and Girardi to do the heavy lifting, del Zotto and Gilroy, Sanguinetti (whom they may trade), and some sad mocking trumpets. Roszival and Redden are sunk cost and he probably reasons that they’ll be gone when he gets to the bigs.
Of course I'm an expert, I've seen Slap Shot eleven times!
Could be
Just numbers and a decision he wasn’t worth a three-year deal? I could see it.
Lighthouse Hockey: Playing the NHL Lotto
I remember that comment. He obviously forced the Isles hand by A) Playing in the minors allowing him to re-enter the draft and B) Having serious options in Europe. I think it’s a bad move for him though. While the Isles do have a good number of Defensemen/D Prospects in the pipes, he has more roadblocks with the Rags than the Isles. First off, the well documented injury history that had Anton Klementyev playing with the big club last season and the numbers game with the Rags defense is no better than the Isles. He will have (in no particular order) Del Zotto, Gilroy, Girardi, Staal, Redden, Roszival, Sanguinetti, Sauer and which over old ass defensemen Sather decides to ink to a 5 year contract ahead of him.
I am disappointed. Thank god for Travis Hamonic other wise the 08 draft is trending towards bust.
Friends don't let friends buy from CA.
by David Hanssen on May 25, 2010 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions
On the other hand, if the Isles had zero interest in signing him, getting $ather Buck$ may be a dream come true.
Lighthouse Hockey: Playing the NHL Lotto
Bust?
Bailey, Hamonic, Petrov, Poulin, Trivino, Ness, Toews, Donovan, Ullstrom, Martin, Spurgeon, DiBenedetto. Of those, Bailey and Martin have already played and quite well for the Islanders and I am confident that Hamonic, Petrov, Poulin, and Donovan will as well. The others have all shown some promise, but even if its just those six, that’s quite a haul for one draft. Not to mention that our team has managed to get some sixth round gems as well.
I’m sorry, when 2 out of your top six picks all in the first 3 rounds are 2 years on legit prospects that’s bust worthy to me. When you have 3 second round picks, especially with two of them in the top 40 you have to be better than 33%. Trivino, Ness and Toews the Younger have all seen their stocks drop significantly over the past two years. Niemi is gone. Hamonic was dominant in the minors and the WJC but is still unproven at the pro level. Ditto with Donovan.
And on Petrov, NONE of us have seen him play more than highlight reels and/or a couple of games at the WJC. Hell, the Russians haven’t even seen more than that either he’s played so little over there. So until he’s signed to an entry level deal and playing over here, he just shouldn’t be discussed as a legit prospect.
Friends don't let friends buy from CA.
by David Hanssen on May 25, 2010 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Your bust is my bonanza
Most other folks too. Two players already playing well in the NHL and four more on the way (and I will count Petrov whether you do or not—whether he comes over now or in 2012) is a very good draft any way you slice it. Most teams dream of such drafts.
Whatever dude, I don’t have the time or the energy to argue tonight.
Friends don't let friends buy from CA.
by David Hanssen on May 25, 2010 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions
That's cause your glass is half empty
Mine is full:
2012
Martin—Bailey—Petrov
Hamonic—Donovan
Poulin
not that I think the draft ias a bust, but who are the 2 playing in the NHL? Bailey and ? Please don’t say Martin. 5 games does not a career make. Let’s all stop anointing Martin the next Nystrom. He’s played 5 NHL games and had a decent season in the A. Good, but playing everyday NHL? Not quite
by billymac23 on May 25, 2010 10:25 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I will say Martin
he has proven that he can play in the NHL. The only real questions are whether he is a top or bottom six and how effective he will be, I am assuming that he will be a third or fourth line LW, but who knows? And whether he will be as good as or maybe even better than Nystrom or just a solid checking winger, he will be an important piece in the puzzle.
Agreed, not a bust...at least not yet
I agree with bcisleman. By trading down and stockpiling picks the isles were able to take chances on guys like Ness, Petrov and Toews. I think even then chances were that none of them would make it to the big show but they had much higher upside than “safer” picks and there was the off-chance that one or more could turn into a bonafide star. I personally like to see teams taking chances on risky, higher ceiling players in the middle rounds as opposed to just another run of the mill potential third line grinder. And I am still very excited about Petrov, Ness, Toews, even Trivino and definitly Martin and Poulin. I would put money on at least one turning into a legit NHL player. Sure, Ness, Trivino and Toews have been mostly dissapointing so far but jeez, they are sooo young and are full of talent; even if they haven’t been able to finish much at the collegiate level. And Martin and Poulin could turn out to be the real steals of that draft. As far as Niemi, especially because he has size, but there are a handful of other defensive propects I am more excited about. I also would bet that the islanders knew something we didn’t about the ability to sign him. He may have forced there hand to trade him.
I personally like to see teams taking chances on risky, higher ceiling players in the middle rounds as opposed to just another run of the mill potential third line grinder.
Me too, to an extent. It’s such a longshot, this is why collecting multiple picks is nice if you can do it. Just improving odds that the little bit of promise you see in a kid hits.
Lighthouse Hockey: Playing the NHL Lotto
2008 Draft and Garth
I think we should have some faith in Garth. First of all, it is way too early to judge the ‘08 draft. We had 13 picks (amazing feat) and we won’t know for at least 2 more years if anything was accomplished. I look at it as this was a franchise in need of re-stocking and Garth did exactly that, made 13 picks in one draft. He knew what was needed and went out and did. Whether he made the right calls or not is still a question that needs answering but, give him some credit for diagnosing the problem in the first place.
His track record as a GM is already pretty good. He took over in ‘06 right after the draft, he made a great trade with Alexei Zhitnik, acquired the pick we used on Hamonic and when we were on the way to the playoffs we acquired Smyth. The Smyth trade can be viewed two ways; I look at the positive, while the quantity looks like a lot, Nilsson has had one 40pt season, O’Marra is not even successful in the AHL and the 1st was used on Alex Plante, see O’Marra. It was a good shot in the arm and an apt diagnosis of our prospects.
I’ve already touched on the ‘08 draft but, it is worth talking again about the Bailey moves. If you want to jump to judgement, you could say the moves were very shrewd. There was no way we were getting into the top 3 for Stamkos, Doughty or Bogo, we passed on Schenn, Filatov, etc to take Bailey. The only guy I would be worried about is Colin Wilson. We may have missed on him. But, like I said earlier he was trying to build depth. If it turns out as I suspect and Wilson is better than Bailey, we have to judge whether the difference can be made up with the other picks we acquired in moving down. If even one of those later picks turns out, I’d have to say yes.
Looking at 2009 draft, you could credit him for picking Tavares. I mean there was talk of Duchesne or Hedman. The move up for de Haan is looking great. I remember there was much debate over what Snow was doing, analysts on the t.v and internet were mocking the huge jump for a guy no one had rated above 20. However, thats why these people are analysts and not working for an NHL team.
The bad things I can say about Snow is the 2007 draft looks a little like a mess, however in his defense no one picked after Mark Katic at 63 (except Carl Gunnarson and Jamie Benn sparingly) have played in the NHL , and the Grebeshkov trade doesn’t look so good.
I know this is a bit of a rambling post but, I don’t think Snow gets the credit he deserves, both around the NHL or amoung fans. This team was in shambles when he took over. The 06/07 season/playoffs were a mirage, this team was in terrible shape. Good on Snow for realising that and taking us on this great rebuilding journey. We’re still a ways away and a lower finish this year would have helped but, to me this guy is already the 2nd greatest GM we’ve ever had (I know thats not saying much) and I would trust him a little, even in small moves like this one with Niemi.
Can't really compare Bailey and Wilson
they are two totally different kinds of centers. I am sure they will both have productive careers. See mine above about the 2008 draft which was a bonanza, not a bust. Even in 2007, without picks in the first two, Garth got Katic, Jason Gregoire (just google him—he looks like a good third liner and may be ready in 1-2 yrs), and Blake Kessel. All three have potential as NHLers.
Snowstorm...
Excellent post! Just a few additional points:
1. I wasn’t crazy about dropping Ted for the Unknown New England Mafia Soldier… but if last, then 25th is considered a team on the rise… he’s doing a good job. I’m more on Gordon’s side now than at the end of last year, but I still think that was one part of the overhaul that didn’t need to happen… especially if they retained Flynn to work with a young defensive corp.
2. More credit needs to go to Jankowski and the team of scouts… which from some reports I remember last year on NYIPB is under funded. They’ve done a pretty good job in the middle rounds, and we’ll see if those good prospects turn into the core of a contender.
3. Snow has had to talk softly (because of following Milbury) and carry almost no stick (budget restraints set by Wang). He is in the shittiest of all positions, and so far WE haven’t crucified him. I’d say that’s an accomplishment all on its own. HE hasn’t made the franchise look ridiculous. In fact, he’s made some very prudent talent evalutation decisions. Meyer has blossomed, and whoever thought we’d want to see HIM resigned. Streit was a stroke of GENIUS, Roloson/Biron kept this season interesting through the holiday season…. Moulson may have been a jackpot scratcher, and Schremp kinda just fell in his net… but those are things where you just make the successful bunt, move the runner into scoring position and your team fist bumps you for making an out.
I’m not a big fan of almost anything Charles Wang has done as an owner in regards to the present team, but seeing a potential GM in his about to retire backup goaltender was definitely a positive… or a stroke of cheap ass ownership falling into a featherbed. I find it hard to give him all the credit when he kept Milbury around for so long.
NHL 500... Let the Less Filling vs Tastes Great debate begin!
Revisiting Nolan, Episode VIII
I still think that was one part of the overhaul that didn’t need to happen… especially if they retained Flynn to work with a young defensive corp.
I know we’ve talked about this before, but you know what finally convinced me Nolan’s “doesn’t play well with others” rap was rearing up again? How late Snow let him go that summer. In that second half and leading up to the draft, I got the impression Snow tried to make it work for as long as he could, but that the “rebuild” approach meant he and Nolan just weren’t seeing eye to eye. (That, or it took that long for him to get permission to go another direction.)
Which, from a coach’s perspective I can see where Nolan would be unhappy: “Let me get this straight, I joined a playoff team and now we’re, for all intents and purposes, intentionally getting worse? And it’s my record that will be the first scapegoat?” But since Snow fancied the long-term Regier-Ruff marriage model, Nolan probably should have tried to play ball.
I’m speculating on all fronts here, but that’s how I read those happenings.
Lighthouse Hockey: Playing the NHL Lotto
I see that as well...
I’d have really liked a Snowlan, long term relationship… some argue that we wouldn’t have gotten JT, and this year we wouldn’t have a top 5. TRUE. But there have been 120 games of horrible to mediocre play… and the middle round drafting would have been very similar.
Where they most likely differed (INHO) was not that Ted didn’t work with younger kids (he has proven he can teach the game pretty damn well), but playing lilipution hockey. this team got their asses handed to them in a humiliating fashion last year, and most of this year.
Maybe… (just maybe) Nolan keeps some continuity and turns Bergy into another Jason Blake, Streit adds something that was missing the first two years, and with some minor personnel tweaking they have more oportunities to get that first playoff series win in forever.
things haven’t turned out that bad, because we have HOPE…. but I’m an atheist, and I don’t believe in SELLING HOPE. Because what we (as fans) bought, in REALITY, was two years of absolute CRAP.
Still have my fingers crossed though… I’m a supersticious atheist.
NHL 500... Let the Less Filling vs Tastes Great debate begin!
Your player/GM
seeing a potential GM in his about to retire backup goaltender was definitely a positive… or a stroke of cheap ass ownership falling into a featherbed.
I keep seeing this with each fawning article I read that nominates Steve “No Experience” Yzerman as GM of the Milennium as he pulls down something like $12 million for 5 years from Tampa Bay.
In truth I figure he’ll do pretty well — he has a good owner and nice prospects — but I keep thinking, “Really? We’re THAT sure Yzerman is such a genius that we’re unanimously electing him Pope and shelling out $12 million?” If Gerard Gallant is a serious candidate for that coaching job, then it will be interesting from the get-go.
Lighthouse Hockey: Playing the NHL Lotto
return of THE COMMISH...
or Vic Mackey. I always liked Gallant because if I still lived in NY I could have gotten into the locker room by saying I just lost my badge… If people knew who Gallant was, maybe if I flew through detroit more often, I’d get autograph requests for somebody other than Michael Chiklis.
I love Tampa… maybe, if he gets the job I’ll have my next winter destinatin set.
I got this picture from a back door to the Isles website that still lists him as an ASST COACH
I definetly have a better golf game, and he’s a Bruins fan… other than that he got me a lot of free drinks in airport bars.
I guess both of these guys will be returning to their chosen profession next fall.
NHL 500... Let the Less Filling vs Tastes Great debate begin!
I'd have done it...
and not screwed the caboose of the MONEY TRAIN! What a great premise for a cop show… probably really hurt byt he writers strike, and then un-rescuable.
May it rest in peace.
NHL 500... Let the Less Filling vs Tastes Great debate begin!
I must say I enjoyed just about every guilty-pleasurable minute of it, though my better half probably wisely bowed out once it jumped from typically absurd to immensely absurd at the end.
Lighthouse Hockey: Playing the NHL Lotto
Rate of Draft success
Historically only 1 out of 4 players taken in the second round actually turned into NHL career players. Beyond the second round there is only a 12% chance the player will have an NHL career. Historically a little more then Half of first rounders taken play more then 500 NHL games…….. Do the math the Isle 2008 draft is looking pretty good.
by neologizer on May 26, 2010 12:47 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
absolutely
let’s take stock:
A top two centerman who is already showing signs of becoming a star
A big physical top four defender who everybody raves about in a way they do not usually do for Islanders
A possible #1 goalie who looked flat out brilliant against the Canucks here in Terrace
A tough as nails LW who we don’t even know what his ceiling is and who will, at least, be a terrific role player of the kind that all champions need
A big talented top six PF who showed first rounder quality at this year’s WJCs
A puck moving defenseman who impressed everyone at the WJCs as well
I am betting that one or more of the others will mature into NHL players, but even if they don’t, that is quite a lot from one draft.
You'd like to think...
…that with ~$15M to spend over the summer just to get to the floor, the team should look pretty good for a few years…. well… there is the dynamic duo to help muddy the water..
NHL 500... Let the Less Filling vs Tastes Great debate begin!
as I noted in my Bleacher Report piece
this year will tell about DP. If he cannot make at least 15-20 starts without that knee swelling up, I think he is done. At that point, if he doesn’t want to retire, he should be waived and sent to Bridgeport.
As to Lighthouse, the ToH is supposedly going to issue a counterproposal this summer. Hopefully once that is done, things will move pretty quickly toward recommitting to Uniondale or to Queens.
Read that...
…and I had to check the date.. thought it might have been from LAST YEAR.
The damage with Ricky has been done. Just like with Alexi… it’s tough not for wang to cause chaos through his attraction to charismatic(?) men. maybe he just wants to be one of the boys.
NHL 500... Let the Less Filling vs Tastes Great debate begin!
and I had to check the date.. thought it might have been from LAST YEAR
A lot of the article concerns history, yes, but the HUGE development is the return of swelling after only 7 starts this year—after a year’s layoff. To me, that STRONGLY suggests permanency and permanent disability. As I say, what happens this year will tell the tale.
i was just kidding..
but if he does the same thing this year I could see him getting coffee for Snowy at the 2011 draft. After that, maybe he puts on a hardhat and gets his Heavy Machinery Certifications at Apex Tech… there should be something for him to do at the Lighthouse… or the Wang house.
NHL 500... Let the Less Filling vs Tastes Great debate begin!
actually
he has the looks and the presence to be an on air analyst. If Weekes can do it, why not him?
geez...
I don’t want to throw DP under the bus because what’s going on isn’t his fault. But… Kevin Weekes, IMO, has done a very good job on the BODY BY JAKE Network. …and he helped take a team to the cup finals.
DP may get a shot in one of the Doormaster 200 commercials, because the highlight of his recent career is when he can get a 10lb ankle weight parallel with his knee.
KW: “This team has great chemistry, kind of like we did in Carolina…”
RD: “We tried chemistry, physics and even psychology… but there was no way the Wangs men could put humpty dumpty back together again… oh.. by the way, it’s the 30th… my check is in the bank this month… dinner’s on Wang me”
NHL 500... Let the Less Filling vs Tastes Great debate begin!
Indeed
This crapshoot (which gets even crapshootier beyond pick #10) known as the NHL draft gets really craptastic when you get to rounds 2 and 3. I didn’t mean to imply 2008 has issues — it’s just fun to keep track since they piled up so many lottery tickets picks in those two rounds of ’08.
It’s disappointing that Niemi didn’t work out, but I don’t mind that pick at all. The attributes he had then are the same ones that probably interested Sather now (in addition to them seeing him with their other prospect in Sask).
So much guesswork and uncertainty goes into it, which is why it still floors me how much attention it consumes.
Lighthouse Hockey: Playing the NHL Lotto
madness
Drafting 18-year-olds and expecting it to be a precise science… Even when they were drafting 20-year-olds it wasn’t easy. Snow’s off to a good start. Nobody expected them to be competitive for the playoffs this season after the cratering and completely-arid prospect list of just two years ago. Things are turning around remarkably, especially considering that they didn’t just go sign a crapload of veterans like in ‘01-’02 (Hamrlik, Peca, Acoin, etc.). Streit, Moulson, Schremp were all dice rolls.
Not that the list is all that impressive after you get past The Architect, but Snow’s already the second-best GM we’ve ever had.
Of course I'm an expert, I've seen Slap Shot eleven times!
And — not that I’m fitting Snow for a bowtie — but his draft record may prove to be better than late-era Torrey at least. (Although it’s probably not fair to compare the scouting resources available to Torrey in the late ’80s to what they have at their disposal now. Actually, now that I think of the late ’80s drafts, that makes Jimmy D. look pretty damn good.)
Lighthouse Hockey: Playing the NHL Lotto
I don’t mind that pick at all
Given the track record cited above, they may select someone better than Niemi with the pick. Should we set the bar higher and insist it be a Finn just to maintain our quota?
Finn quota
Heh, sounds like that’s what the Rangers were doing with this Niemi deal. They had a Finn from the Wolfpack sign with the KHL, apparently.
Lighthouse Hockey: Playing the NHL Lotto
I'm still disappointed with Sather
Had high hopes he’d sign Olli to a 5-year, $35 million deal.
Lighthouse Hockey: Playing the NHL Lotto
Well, he just signed Zuccarello Aasen, so he needs a Swede for the Scandinavian trifecta.
By the way, due to this signing you can begin my suicide watch.
Friends don't let friends buy from CA.
by David Hanssen on May 26, 2010 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, Ilkka Heikkinen signed for Novosibirsk.
Friends don't let friends buy from CA.
by David Hanssen on May 26, 2010 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions
So am I sorry to see Niemi go? Absolutely
But is it a disaster? No. The 2008 draft still looks very good and consider what Garth and Ryan have done with their 6th rounders:
2009—Anders Lee—USHL Rookie of the Year and Playoff MVP
2008—Jared Spurgeon—with 51 points as a defenseman, considered the best player on a very good Spokane team.
http://www.spokesman.com/blogs/sportslink/2010/mar/17/spurgeon-chiefs-ready-playoffs/
2007—Blake Kessel—2nd team All-American with 38 pts in 38 games
The only 6th rounder for Garth that looks shaky is Justin DeBenedetto. Justin had a good junior career with the Sarnia Sting, but has struggled in his first year with Bridgeport. Hopefully he sorts things out this coming season. Even if he doesn’t, 3 of 4 in 6th round picks is quite a track record!
Don't throw JD out with the bathwater...
They must have loved the Tim Horton’s in Sarnia… DiBo, Martin and Katic…
DiBo should have a more important role with the Tigers this year… and there should be a thinning of the herd above him on the depth chart. They need a little more talent at center in BP to give some of those prospects a shot. The sarnia team, with Stamkos, probably could have beaten BP in a 7 game series.
NHL 500... Let the Less Filling vs Tastes Great debate begin!
yeah this season will be crucial
if he has a good one, then you chalk up last year to adjustment. If he struggles again, it may be time to break out the B word. But even if that happens, they have still done very well with their sixth rounders.
agreed
The thing with Justin is he needs to be BergenhiemPlus… and Bergy needs to be BergyPlus… but Bergy has the advantage of being BergyRegular already… which has a lot of guys with “potential” behind him on my depth chart.
there’s no reason JD can’t put in a few 20+ goal seasons at the bridge… and get a cup of coffee here and there. A sixth rounder that proves out to be an NHL depth second liner for a few years is a pick well spent. Somebody has to play in AHL games…
NHL 500... Let the Less Filling vs Tastes Great debate begin!
There could be two Bergy's very soon..
In camp there will be a BIG (Joensuu) Bergy and a Little (Bergy) Bergy.. if Joensuu really grows into a BIG BERGY, then we’ll have something. All we’ll need is a medium Bergy and this team may never lose again…
NHL 500... Let the Less Filling vs Tastes Great debate begin!
and in all this...
we left out the coming Rakhtober….Hopefully it will be fun.
NHL 500... Let the Less Filling vs Tastes Great debate begin!
You mean kind of like Russian Nesting Dolls?
Joe Thornton should be drug tested or checked to see if an imposter has taken over his jersey.
by metalcoconut on May 26, 2010 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Spurgeon
So I wonder if they’re not signing him? I was looking forward to singing “”http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGkRof7983g" target="new">Diamondback Spurgeon"… but we haven’t heard anything and time is running out.
Regardless, sounds like they were right about his talent. Size undermines him.
Lighthouse Hockey: Playing the NHL Lotto
sounds like he's done in Spokane
so I imagine his agent is talking. I think he is talented enough that he will be fine with a partner like Hamonic.
He was originally paired with Cowan, wasn't he?
And he continued to excel without Cowan? Is that part of your thinking there? (I’m asking because I’ve never watched either of them, so their stocks are interesting.)
Lighthouse Hockey: Playing the NHL Lotto
I'm thinking he might need a little protection sizewise
although its not like he’s 5’6", 150 lbs. But you don’t want a Hartnell or Avery to be able to push him around.
how can Snow even talk to the Rangers
I am surprised the Islanders phone system doesn’t have that number blocked on the GMs phone
I trust he at least held his nose during the entire conversation.
Lighthouse Hockey: Playing the NHL Lotto
You mean...
Teams can make trades while the playoffs are still ongoing?
I learn something new every day.
Warning: This post may cause Yashin Rashes, Spano Spasms, and Dingle Milburys.
by ICanSeeForIslesAndIsles on May 26, 2010 9:49 AM EDT reply actions
I think only after your season is done
But that would be funny as anything…. “Oh by the way, I traded three picks and Marian Hossa for Ilya Kovalchuk. He’ll be here for the finals. Hope you don’t mind.”
Of course I'm an expert, I've seen Slap Shot eleven times!
I think they avoid anything big until Draft Day
First—they want to make a splash
Second—they don’t want to annoy the NHL by detracting attention from the Big Show
Agree
With all the antics going on and Wang’s absense from the press I am betting that they do not sign anyone big immediately.
Joe Thornton should be drug tested or checked to see if an imposter has taken over his jersey.
by metalcoconut on May 26, 2010 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions
This better not set us up for some curse.
With an attitude like his he belongs on the Rags. Just look how well Redden is fairing. The funny part is that the Isles pride themselves on taking players with high character and from most of the accounts that we have of Niemi he is a prima donna. I hope he does make it to the Rags so the Isles can treat him like a traffic cone. By the time he gets to the club we should have some developed players that can properly introduce him to the NA game.
Joe Thornton should be drug tested or checked to see if an imposter has taken over his jersey.
Lemieux?
The only person he is cursing is Kasparitis and he probably been cursing him since 4 minutes left in the 3rd period of game 7 semi finals.
Ok you got my attention. How do you think he cursed the Isles? Do you think he told Milbury to apply for the position?
Joe Thornton should be drug tested or checked to see if an imposter has taken over his jersey.
I just figured he cursed us for ruining his Dynasty.
The Islanders went from Marty McInnis and a 2nd Overall pick to Jesse Joensuu.
We loaned him Trots and gave him Guerin for practically a song. Hopefully he can’t be too mad with us. :)
Joe Thornton should be drug tested or checked to see if an imposter has taken over his jersey.
by metalcoconut on May 26, 2010 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Unholy Dealings
I was out for a jog yesterday and when I returned I had a tall glass of water and then hit the shower.When I checked the computer for the latest Isles news and I read that the Isles and Rangers had completed a deal I had to have another shower.I personally would rather deal with the Devil(s) than deal with the Rags.The head says yes the deal makes sense but the heart says time to go have another shower.
I personally would rather deal with the Devil(s) than deal with the Rags.
I would need to shower either way, but the tipper for me is that Lou would somehow sell us snake oil whereas with Sather you at least might get him to overpay for scrap metal.
Lighthouse Hockey: Playing the NHL Lotto
We’ve dealt with the devils before. The Three way Claude-Thomas-Clark trade.
The Islanders went from Marty McInnis and a 2nd Overall pick to Jesse Joensuu.
I think Beezer for Terreri was another trade with the Devils. I can deal with trades between the Isles and the Devils or Flyers better than with the Rangers.
The Three way Claude-Thomas-Clark trade.
Which kicked ass if only because I didn’t have to pretend to root for Claude. I was sorry to see Thomas go, but Clark was fun. I remember that day, and hearing it was a three-way {bow-chika-wow-wow}, and feeling this sense of relief that I’d never have to rationalize a Lemieux cheapshot.
Lighthouse Hockey: Playing the NHL Lotto
I feel dirty now and may have to take a shower with gasoline and turpentine. Feel free to light a match.
But seriously, if Niemi wasn’t going to sign a contract with the Isles, it was better to get something for him than nothing. If I was Snow, would I have traded with the Rangers? Probably not. But if the Rangers were the only team offering anything for Niemi, I can’t totally blame him. At least it’s probably just a minor trade when we look back at it years down the road. I would’ve felt really dirty if the NHL allowed that Palffy to the Rangers trade some 10 years ago.
wait and see if Jyri doesn't jump to SM-Liiga
and also see what gem Jankowski and the boys find at #160.
Comments For This Post Are Closed
Secondary Sidebar
User Tools
Related FanPosts on Lighthouse Hockey
FanPosts
Community blog posts and discussion.
Recommended FanPosts
Recent FanPosts
Featured Stories
Islanders Schedule
Next 5 Games
@
St. Louis
|
Thu 02/16 | 8:00 PM EST |
|
Carolina
|
Sat 02/18 | 7:00 PM EST |
|
Ottawa
|
Mon 02/20 | 1:00 PM EST |
|
@
Buffalo
|
Tue 02/21 | 7:00 PM EST |
|
New York Rangers
|
Fri 02/24 | 7:00 PM EST |
Last 5 Games
|
@
Winnipeg
|
Tue 02/14 | W 3 - 1 |
|
Florida
|
Sun 02/12 | L 1 - 4 |
|
Los Angeles
|
Sat 02/11 | OT - W 2 - 1 |
|
Montreal
|
Thu 02/09 | L 2 - 4 |
|
@
Philadelphia
|
Tue 02/07 | SO - W 1 - 0 |
Atlantic Standings
| GP | W | L | OTL | PT | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
|
New York Rangers
|
55 | 37 | 13 | 5 | 79 |
|
Philadelphia
|
56 | 31 | 18 | 7 | 69 |
|
Pittsburgh
|
56 | 32 | 19 | 5 | 69 |
|
New Jersey
|
56 | 32 | 20 | 4 | 68 |
|
New York Islanders
|
56 | 24 | 24 | 8 | 56 |
(updated 2.15.2012 at 8:59 AM EST)
In Association With
Latest Puck Daddy - NHL from Yahoo! Sports
- Puck Daddy Hockey Rumors (mostly about Rick Nash) Live Chat!
- Sick of seeing Jets struggle offensively, Winnipeg captain asks for trade help
- Did Budweiser exploit beer league hockey players in its Super Bowl commercial hit?
- Wild’s Marek Zidlicky drinks Lou’s Kool-Aid, waives no-trade for Devils (Update)
- Tuesday’s Three Stars: 4-spots for Kovalchuk, Spezza; who throws a strawberry on the ice?
Latest stories and headlines from NHL.com
- Wings set NHL record with 21 straight wins at home
- WHL Roundup: A look at Tuesday's games
- Gallagher has hat trick and SO winner, leads Giants over Americans 5-4
- Thunderbirds end seven-game home losing streak with 4-3 SO win over Rockets
- Nabokov makes 37 saves, Parenteau scores winner as Islanders beat Jets 3-1
Certain photos copyright © 2012 by Associated Press or Getty Images. Any commercial use or distribution without the express written consent of Associated Press and Getty Images is strictly prohibited.
