Bits: Conference Finals Sunday, Flyers/Habs poll
by Dominik on May 16, 2010 1:24 PM EDT
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PrintA Flyers-Canadiens poll, and completely random little collection of links as the NHL Conference Finals kick off on a big Sunday:
Larry Brooks says Charles Wang should reassure fans that he won't move the team out of the New York area. I'm a fan of publicly stating your intentions, but I've long inferred that Wang wouldn't own the team anywhere else. I'm not worried about a move, because that would mean all else had failed.
The Sharks know the Blackhawks (3 p.m. NBC/TSN/RDS) and reacquaint this afternoon: Lots of great local SJ coverage at the Mercury News on their approach, on Doug Wilson, and more. Ken Hitchcock goes into the tactics with both teams at nhl.com. [SBN fan coverage at Fear the Fin | Second Street Hockey ... also check out Hockee Night]
Bruins mourning: Denis Potvin never brings up the last time it happened to his friend Pierre Larouche.
Meanwhile, there's that whole Flyers-Canadiens series kicking off, too. I don't know what to make of it. Halak, Halak, how long for Halak's miracles? I don't know how Philly will respond after the hype of the last few days, though I bet Peter Laviolette has them in the right mental space, given what they've done. I tend to think Halak might cool off and the Flyers' size might be an advantage ... but I haven't known what to predict in the East this spring, so why should I start now? I just hope it goes seven; I don't want either team to win. {sigh} [SBN coverage at Broadstreet Hockey | Habs Eyes on the Prize]
Anyway, here's our poll (I'll vote Flyers in 7, though the home teams are choking in 7 so far)...
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Fuck the Flyers
I hate them more than I hate the Rangers, at this point.
Fiya Minaya.
The best thing that can happen at this point is...
The Flyers’ untested goalie can win the first three and then lose the series in 7. That would be fantastic…of course a west coast team would have to win the cup.
Joe Thornton should be drug tested or checked to see if an imposter has taken over his jersey.
I think Flyers in 5, great run by Habs, but after playing 14 games I just can’t see them continuing.
When there’s talk of the Islanders moving out of NY, people never propose how Wang will run both the Isles and CA if they are separated by a few states. Wang might not make that many decisions, but he does seem like someone who wants to be around and involved.
The Islanders went from Marty McInnis and a 2nd Overall pick to Jesse Joensuu.
there's no real talk that I am aware of
just rumors and speculation, egged on by his injudicious comments and gamesmanship. I see them moving to Queens. Not sure in my mind if he sells to the Wilpons, becomes their tenant / partner, or they co-own. But the logic of it just seems inescapable to me.
But the logic of it just seems inescapable to me.
A match between billionaires makes nervous — they seldom end well. But I guess it depends on what Wang really wants:
- To still run the team? (He gets to take them to China(!), for instance.)
- If he’s tired of the toy, would he sell and feel like he at least kept them “here”?
- Is he wanting to hold on to them only if he gets a bigger land deal around them? Then he waits until that is a go (even in scaled-down form) or no-go.
- Is he wanting to keep them no matter what, as long as he doesn’t lose his shirt? (He really is an active owner…I suspect he likes the toy.)
We just don’t know. He sure seems to like owning the team. But regardless of what he says, we know his whims can change, and we know he’s not inclined to show all his cards thanks to the on-going politics and negotiating/posturing going on.
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at some point
he needs to recognize that having the franchise caught in this tug of war is bad for the franchise. The ToH isn’t going to build him a new venue or renovate the old one. They are also not going to let him build the real estate boondoggle he thinks he needs to pay for it.
The best place for the team is Queens. Some sort of formal or informal partnership with the Wilpons would seem the best way to do this and do it quickly. 2015 will be here before we know it. It took the Devs about three years to line everything up and two years to build the Pru. Time’s a’wasting. I suspect that Wang knows that and that has something to do with the Wilpons entering the picture now.
I agree at some point he needs to do that
But they simply aren’t there yet, because right now ToH and Nassau and Wang are still laying down lines in the sand that will probably change. It’s part of the song and dance, unfortunately. Of course ToH was never going to just build him a new venue — that’s why he created the proposal he did. But neither is Queens.
So yes, the time is getting near, but this is also the window when opposing sides blink and make real decisions instead of sticking to the posturing. They need to have things clear by next season, I would imagine, but the path from here to October is going to be littered with a bunch of this back-and-forth, I’d bet.
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But neither is Queens.
Not so sure. They need jobs and construction creates jobs. I would be surprised if they didn’t at least help with the money one way or another.
There is supposedly some sort of counterproposal coming this summer. It surely won’t be what Wang is looking for and then it will, in my view, be time to act.
Heh, Nassau needs jobs, too! I’m just saying, it’s hard to predict what will happen when politics and handshake agreements will interfere with rational thinking. I expect that from both locales.
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I think there are different attitudes about stimulus
and unions are stronger in city politics. I suspect also that Bloomberg will do everything he can to make it easier for Wang if he is convinced Wang is sincere about moving.
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