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Danish team is fun to watch

Editor's Note: Front-paging a report from the World Championships from BenHasna.

Originally a comment, now a FanPost. For those who don't know, I live in Switzerland and attended today's upset of Denmark against USA at the Worlds. And wow, that Denmark team is fun to watch

Going in, as you’d expect, I was neutral. But looking at how Denmark played the game, I had to be happy for them at the end. And pretty much the whole crowd was. There anyway were more Danish people than I expected and most of the German and Finnish fans supported Denmark, too. As the ranking presents itself now, not sure, if that was smart, though. However, I think everyone could feel how much this game meant to Denmark and how well they played it with their young, fascinating group.

Actually, this Danish team is more talented than any Swiss team I’ve seen. They obviously still have a tough road ahead in this tournament and could perhaps just about miss the top 8. And in the years to come, they might lack a bit of depth, as they don’t have a very good league in their country, but sooner or later I see them playing the role Switzerland played at this year’s Olympics.

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Besides the talent, I loved the effort and the spirit of this team. And Frans Nielsen kind of led the way there, too. You could see the pride in his face first when he returned to the bench to hug the coaches after the overtime winner and then when he skated off at Peter Regin’s side. That was pretty special.

And Nielsen had another very good game. To me, he was the best player out there, but I might be biased a bit. But really, he showed everything he’s got. His playmaking was sensational and he of course played smart defensively as usual, playing against the top line (Foligno-Dubinsky-Okposo) all night. As discussed here, it would be awesome if he scored just a bit more goals. That was true also for this particular game, he should have scored once at least, had three pretty good chances. But it was more bad luck than anything today and I liked his offensive play a lot, too. So, I could definitely imagine him to improve there. I was a bit concerned about one thing, though, he looked a little tired towards the end. From the 2nd period on he tried to make sure to not get caught on an extended shift, even was off the ice first quite often. Lots of tough minutes to come for him and the whole team and I just hope everything will go well until the end.

Two of Nielsen’s line mates were pretty impressive, too. First of all, Lars Eller who scored the first goal and created some very good chances in combination with Nielsen. He should have a pretty good NHL career, I think. And I’d say the same about Philip Larsen. To be honest, I had no idea he had played the two last regular season games with Dallas, but I’m quite convinced we’ll see a lot of him in the NHL. He’s not a very big guy, but I actually liked defensive work quite a bit, too.

 

Gordon not active enough?

The US team obviously was disappointing. They played with some nice urgency in the 2nd period, had great netfront presence and were unlucky not to win that period. But in the rest of the game, they just weren’t good enough. Obviously, the roster isn’t very good and the game is a whole lot different on the bigger rink. So, I understand they can struggle a bit, but two goals in 6+ periods against Germany and Denmark, umm, well. I didn’t pay too much attention to the coaching, but in my opinion Gordon should have matched the lines better. He had the last change, but only once or twice maybe tried to get the top line away from Nielsen and the 2nd line (Moss-Galiardi-Oshie) away from the Regin line. The other two Danish lines are a lot worse obviously and they sometimes struggled indeed, were hardly ever in the offensive zone, but the 3rd and 4th lines of the US team were not good enough to create good scoring chances. Ryan Carter or also Nystrom were quite bad. As for Gordon, I thought a few times he could have been more active also behind the Islanders' bench. He might sometimes have lacked the personnel to match the lines effectively, but well, it doesn't seem to be his strength or his priority.

 

Okposo and Hillen good

The two Islanders belonged to their best players, though. Okposo was together with maybe Oshie the best forward. His assist was a beautiful play, a brilliant pass through the box despite having Nielsen checking on him. And Hillen was skating really well. I hope he’ll get a bit more time with the top two lines in the next game. With the way Foligno or also Dubinsky have been playing, they’ll need help from their defensemen.

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Thanks for the report!

Interesting with Gordon and the lines. I wonder how much they know about the Danish players beyond the NHLers?

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by Dominik on May 12, 2010 12:46 PM EDT reply actions  

Well, I don’t want to make too big of a deal of his coaching in this particular game. First of all, it’s difficult to play well in the early stages for teams like USA and Canada. And they drew by far the most competitive group. Even with best coaching you could struggle under these circumstances. It’s a tough job – you don’t know your players very well, you don’t know much about the opposition, you’re not too familiar with your assistants and the hockey is quite a bit different.
But I’m always looking for little things to get more information about Gordon. I like him in general and I think he’s done a pretty good job with the Islanders so far. What kind of hockey they played with this team in some stretches at least over the last two years has been quite impressive. But overall, Gordon is still very difficult to estimate to me. Probably you anyway will know enough about a coach only when he will coach different teams. Obviously, these Worlds won’t tell us anything substantial about Gordon, but I just find it interesting to see him coach a different team indeed.

But back to your question… They surely don’t know very much about them. But well, it’s pretty obvious that Denmark lacks of depth. To be honest, I don’t know how other top teams coach against them, but you certainly could exploit that I think. Most of their 3rd and 4th liners play in the Danish league and it’s easy to tell they’ll struggle against Okposo & Co. I don’t think they’ll get away in 5-10 shifts against the top line or at least will take a few penalties. What I could imagine is that they thought they had a pretty good chance against Denmark (and the whole group) anyway and didn’t want to make it too tactical and just get everyone in the game, give all lines time to build some chemistry, etc. But if that was the assessment going into this group stage, it obviously wasn’t the best way to approach it.

However, why I noticed it is probably because one thing I’ve not been impressed with about Gordon is the way he adjusts to situations and opponents. And the quotes from the article you linked to are another interesting thing. He said: “It’s been a combination (of factors). It’s been a little bit of inexperience and turnovers. We’ve had stretches when we had a lot of sustained pressure, but we haven’t had consistency getting pucks through the neutral zone.” Doesn’t that remind you of so many postgame reactions of Gordon throughout this season with the Islanders? Maybe other coaches often kind of tell us the same things, too, and I just don’t realize it as much because I don’t hear them 82 times per season. But with Gordon it’s really always about execution and consistency and “what gives us success and what doesn’t”, as he calls it. And of course, where the Islanders stand right now, it very certainly is the most important thing to find out what gives them success, whereas getting the most out of every game in terms of tactics might not be top priority. And it’s clear that a team like the Islanders pretty quickly will struggle, when they don’t execute properly. But still, I think it’s been a problem how much bad periods hurt them or how little they got out of bad games or how long it took them to recover from bad stretches. I’m not saying this is all on Gordon and I could right now not even name certain situations, where he should have matched the lines better or form other combos, etc. But he’s just not been very impressive there…

And as great the record against Western teams was, as ugly looks the record (24-31-9) against a very moderate East this season. Only Florida (25-30-9) struggled similarly, but even Toronto was much better (25-26-13). And if most of their meetings against the late bloomers Carolina and Boston hadn’t been early in the season, the record could have been a bit worse even. However, in my opinion a good part of that is the fact that the Islanders didn’t adjust as well to their opponents as they did to them. The Western teams hadn’t seen much of the Islanders’ game and were caught by surprise a bit, whereas the Eastern teams got to know it pretty well over the last two seasons and indeed made their adjustments. With some you could even see it within the season series I think, although those are obviously very small samples. But Atlanta for example played them better every game, whereas the Islanders tried to play them the same way every time and finally got away from it even in a bad sense and showed a pretty ugly performance. And they for example still haven’t figured out how to win on the road against the division rivals (except for the Rangers).

The answer that the team just hasn’t been good enough to execute Gordon’s adjustments or respond to the opposition’s adjustments is still very much in the race. And Gordon anyway deserves huge credit for other things, such as the emergence of Moulson or Schremp I think. And as said, these Worlds mean nothing, but I was indeed a bit disappointed to see kind of the same patterns with this US team as with the Islanders.

by BenHasna on May 12, 2010 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Probably you anyway will know enough about a coach only when he will coach different teams. Obviously, these Worlds won’t tell us anything substantial about Gordon, but I just find it interesting to see him coach a different team indeed.

Me, too. I wish I could’ve watched these games just for that reason alone.

With Gordon I wonder about his in-game adjustments. And I’m still not sure how much to fault him vs. his personnel. Next year will be a big year on that front; though the key players are (mostly) young, they all have at least a year under his system, so that won’t be an excuse.

I like that people around the league like him. I like that the situation the Isles are in gives him a few years to evolve and adapt before the expectations ramp up. If he’s a good one, that’ll show up. If not, no harm done — because the timing for his replacement would coincide with the timing of raised expectations and a better roster.

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by Dominik on May 13, 2010 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

curious coincidence

Copenhagen’s Mermaid has been shipped off to China for an exhibition.

by BCISLEMAN on May 12, 2010 3:33 PM EDT reply actions  

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