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Good to hear.

Edit from Dom: To answer a FAQ, per the CBA he'll still be in either juniors or the NHL next year (not AHL), but if he makes or is called up to the Isles for 10 games, this contract kicks in. For more lovely CBA-ese, you can download the full doc here.

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This means surgery rehab is going well then.

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by Dominik on May 1, 2010 4:56 PM EDT reply actions  

I certainly hope that’s how they handle it.

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by Dominik on May 2, 2010 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Very good news, Im happy for Calvin. :)

Edit from Dom: To answer a FAQ, per the CBA he’ll still be in either juniors or the NHL next year (not AHL), but if he makes or is called up to the Isles for 10 games, this contract kicks in.

I am certain that, just like Bailey, we will still see Isles fans ask, “Why isnt he playing in Bridgeport?” 2396583624 times.

Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)

by TheMetalChick on May 2, 2010 6:04 AM EDT reply actions  

But...

You have to admit that is a confusing rule. I can see the exception for the NHL but given the state of the team (and teams that are in a rebuild mode) the head guys should really reconsider that rule. It forces teams to leave their prospects in a league that they gain minimal experience from or advance them much to quickly. That is not to mention the amount of pressure on the prospect or the difficulties of getting a prospect the the North American market.

Unproven playoff goaltenders shouldn't shoot their mouths off after game 6 and before game 7 unless they like being the other guy in the poster.

by metalcoconut on May 2, 2010 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

The CBA...confusing? ;)

But but but, it’s all so clear…

In the event that a Player signs his first SPC at age 18 and has had his SPC extended pursuant to Subsection (i), and such Player does not play at least ten (10) NHL Games in the second season under that SPC, then the term of his SPC and his number of years in the Entry Level System shall be extended for one (1) addit ional year. Unless a Player and Club expressly agree to the contrary, in the event a Player’s SPC is extended an additional year in accordance with this Subsect ion, all terms of the SPC, with the except ion of Signing Bonuses, but including Paragraph 1 Salary, games played bonuses and Exhibit 5 bonuses, shall be extended; provided, however, that the Player’s Paragraph 1 Salary shall be extended in all circumstances.

Even more fun:

9.2 Age of Players. As used in this Article, “age,” including “First SPC Signing Age,” means a Player’s age on September 15 of the calendar year in which he signs an SPC, regardless of his actual age on the date he signs such SPC.

I know it’s a legal document and has to contain such legalese, but man the NHL does not do a great job of translating the details to fans.

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by Dominik on May 2, 2010 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

The rule twofold. One is its in place to protect the Juniors from talent decimation. The CHL would not be the same quality feeder system if every top prospect were leaving once they were drafted. I’m sure organizations would prefer to have players like de Haan playing in the AHL at age 18-19 but this rule prevets that.

Second I think it’s to protect the players themselves. Most 18-19 year olds are not ready to play against men for a full year even in the AHL. I disagree that they gain “minimal” experience as I think getting 20-25 minutes a night in juniors and the WJC is a much better experience than getting 12-18 a night in the AHL and getting beat up physically by guys 10 years older then they are. They get more playing time in the juniors and get a chance to mature both physically and mentally.

Mighty Mighty Metro!

by David Hanssen on May 2, 2010 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

You make a good point about decimating the minors but most teams are going to be smart enough to leave their players in Juniors until they are ready to play in the big league. However, you have a player like Calvin deHaan who is either stuck in the Juniors for another full season or you bring him up…I do not envy Snow in this position. Sure he can afford to fill out a little more and the AHL has a little more beef than the any of the development leagues but what if the Isles felt that he is not going to learn anymore than he already has but they can’t put him in Bport. Do they put him in the Isles lineup and hope that he catches on quickly enough to not be a liability or better yet a productive member of the lineup that doesn’t get pushed around too much? That does not seem fair to a rebuilding team. The Isles already pulled Kyle out of his college years and that went over so well. There has to be some middle ground on that one.

Unproven playoff goaltenders shouldn't shoot their mouths off after game 6 and before game 7 unless they like being the other guy in the poster.

by metalcoconut on May 2, 2010 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

A little more flexibility would be nice, but I think they arrived at the 9-game thing as the middle ground. (And of course, the NHL club can still send them back after 10 games played, but then they’ve started the clock on the contract.)

I don’t remember all the cases that led to this agreement (which was last codified in 1995, I believe), but basically there were cases where NHL teams were “abusing” the freedom. Since the juniors are big business in Canada, it hurts them to lose stars early, so this helps them plan and market a little bit.

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by Dominik on May 2, 2010 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

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