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I don't know how many people here read John Buccigross on ESPN but I was reading his mailbags and one Ranger fan asked him how the Rangers can fix the salary cap mess and he responded by saying this

 

Buyouts, trades or burying players in the minors are options. The Rangers can afford to put Wade Redden in Hartford if they wish for more cap relief. They could trade Chris Drury if he chose to waive his no-trade clause. What about the Islanders? They are the perfect kind of team for Drury. Drury wouldn't have to move and the Islanders get a perfect player they could use for the last two years of his contract before they have to extend deals for younger players.

 

 I for one highly doubt the Islanders would ever bail out their most hated rival and take a guy with a huge salary cap hit.  Why would they free up space for a divison opponent to let them sign free agents the Isles might want to sign.  What are your guy's oppinion.  Would Garth Snow even pick up the phone is Sather calls to get rid of his cap crushers or would he might consider it. 

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i’m with you, 1. he’s not a “value” acquisition, which they seem to like nowadays
2. he sucks and should have been swapped for KO at the olympics :-)
3. see first two words from #2

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by bob l on Apr 2, 2010 1:58 PM EDT reply actions  

Oh. My. God.

I’ll concede he served a nice PK role in the Olympics, and apparently does so with the Rangers, too.

But other than that, I can’t believe Bucci suggests the Isles should bail out a rival simply for the sake of acquiring a version of Richard Park who makes $7 million per year.

Lighthouse Hockey: What's wrong with lotteries? I've been in lots of lotteries.

by Dominik on Apr 2, 2010 2:25 PM EDT reply actions  

We have more then enough checking forwards, all of whom are a lot cheaper than Drury.

by MatthewM11 on Apr 2, 2010 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

But I LIKE Richard Park.

Come on Isles! 11-0-0 or 10-0-1 I'm not picky! Playoffs!

by Mark D on Apr 2, 2010 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I do too! Just not at $7 million and with built-in recorded Little League footage before every playoff game.

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by Dominik on Apr 2, 2010 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can’t believe Bucci suggests the Isles should bail out a rival simply for the sake of acquiring a version of Richard Park who makes $7 million per year.

Seriously! I left a comment about it here along those lines:

I cannot BELIEVE you actually suggested that the Islanders (of all teams!) should be the ones to offer a helping hand to the Rangers to lovingly rescue them from cap hell! Is that an April fools joke or something? I mean, why in the world would the Isles organization do THAT?? Yes I know that we have the cap room and yes I know we are close in proximity but THINK about this idea- and NOT from a Rangers perspective, which is obviously what you were doing when you posted this response! Do you really think the Islanders should make it possible for their biggest rival to sign a superstar who THEY will have to play a half a dozen times? WHY??? If you really were a father of 30 you would see how ridiculous that notion really is. It would give the Rangers a 1st line star and give the Isles yet another PKing 2nd-3rd liner, albeit a good one. The Isles should do things to help the ISLES-not their rivals just because the pieces fit on paper. The Isles should most certainly NOT make it possible for the Rangers to sign a star like Kovalchuk! The Isles need to worry about their OWN team, not about helping their direct rivals by literally having a hand in helping to make the flippin Rangers into a respectable team again. Let the Rags fester in cap hell… and if they are somehow rescued from it, let some other team do it. Maybe Montreal is interested in another trade.

Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)

by TheMetalChick on Apr 2, 2010 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hee hee, you really captured the spirit of the thing.

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by Dominik on Apr 2, 2010 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

We would have too give up something too

They can’t just give us him for nothing so that means the Isles would have to give the Rangers something of value. How valuable that something would be is in question but I’m against giving the Blueskirts anything of value.

by rockhouse15 on Apr 2, 2010 4:03 PM EDT reply actions  

Nope, that is definitely not true.
In fact, its the opposite- the Rangers would have to give us MORE than just Drury to entice us into taking that cap burden off of their hands!

That being said, I do not think the Isles will do it and I am happy about that. There is no logical reason why we should rescue them from cap hell. Now if they offer us Gaborik or Henrik to get out of cap hell, THEN the Isles are listening lmao.

Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)

by TheMetalChick on Apr 2, 2010 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes but would we have to give up something or would a very late round draft pick do the trick

by rockhouse15 on Apr 2, 2010 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sounds like one of those idiots of the Hockeys Future boards

With their stupid trade ideas. You would think somebody who supposedly considers himself a Hockey expert would think before that kind of stupid idea. We gain nothing with Drury and the Rag$ get salary cap relief, plus we have to give them something. Only the Montreal GM is that stupid.

by lostsin44 on Apr 2, 2010 4:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Actually

I’d happily take Drury for a first rounder. Why? Welp, as I mentioned elsewhere, I’ve always had a soft spot for Drury. But more importantly, the Isles are going to have issues getting to the cap floor. Even more so if (when) DP throws in the towel.

by AP77 on Apr 5, 2010 9:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Since their first rounder is likely to be in the 8-12 range

and would give us a shot at getting Nino as well as our choice of defenseman #1, I would as well. Drury is a good center and team leader. He is just way overpriced. Other than Saku Koivu, there are no FA centers available this summer who are all that special.

by BCISLEMAN on Apr 5, 2010 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

We don't need a 1st line center

We have Tavares, Shremp, and Bailey who can be top 2 centers. We do need a 3rd or 4th line center and a guy like Malhotra or Park can fill that role. If Garth gives big money to some top 4 d-men (I got 4 million on the A-train) the floor shouldn’t be a problem.

by rockhouse15 on Apr 5, 2010 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey if they are giving up their first rounder

I am happy to move JT to LW and maybe trade Schremp for a pick or a prospect.

by BCISLEMAN on Apr 5, 2010 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

No way would I trade Schremp

he has a lot of upside to his game. Bailey actually did better at wing, I would move him back next season.

Drury is too expensive, he is getting $8million this year. we could sign a couple of guys for that price. Plus he is small, we need some one with size if we are going on the FA market

stay with the draft

by Rickfansince76 on Apr 6, 2010 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bailey should be our second line C

and I would take Drury for their first rounder in a heartbeat.

by BCISLEMAN on Apr 6, 2010 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

i agree with you long term BC, but the kid showed more production on the W so we can’t ignore the chance they move him there more permanently

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by bob l on Apr 6, 2010 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think you get him some quality people on his wings

maybe draft Nino and put Comeau on the other wing and Bailey will be fine.

by BCISLEMAN on Apr 6, 2010 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

If we can get A-train for only 4 million that would be awesome…I fear that a bidding war may make him a 5+ mil a year player. I love that the Rags have so much invested in Drury…they made that bed they lay in it…taking Drury would help them way more than it would help us.

by mdelbags on Apr 11, 2010 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

pending the outcome of today's game

the Rangers’ first round pick is in pole position for #10. I don’t think the Rangers would do it, but if they did offer to move Drury and their first rounder for Schremp, I would do it in a heartbeat, Schremp’s a nice player, but he doesn’t bring to the table what Drury does PLUS this would give Garth the chance to draft an elite forward AND and elite defender—both of whom might make the roster this year.

by BCISLEMAN on Apr 11, 2010 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

The Rangers lost today so that gives them the 10th pick

I’m not a beiliever that the Islanders would do this 1 and 2 I don’t think Rangers would give up this year’s first rounder since it is much higher than they thought it would be this year. Next years? maybe but I doubt it.

by rockhouse15 on Apr 11, 2010 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh Sather should be shot if he makes that offer

I am just saying that if I am Garth, I thank the Lord and promise to be kind to everyone…even Kate Murray…and take the offer.

by BCISLEMAN on Apr 12, 2010 1:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

no way

Schremp is just about to break out in my opinion. we woul dregret that, and get burned a few times a year. I don’t see paying so much for Drury

by Rickfansince76 on Apr 12, 2010 9:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

long live RSH!

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by bob l on Apr 12, 2010 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

doubt it

Schremp may become a nice player, but I doubt he has an upside that will greatly outshine Drury. Certainly not enough to compare with Drury and an elite prospect like Nino. Besides, he’s a self-confessed Ranger fan.

by BCISLEMAN on Apr 12, 2010 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

I bet he's changed his tune on fandom

Not just with this past year, but also having spent years under the Rangers West regime in Alberta.

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by Dominik on Apr 12, 2010 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Drury's numbers vs Park

Drury-14/18/32 -10, 31 PIM, 2 PPG, 6 PPA, 1 SH, 1GW $8,050,000
Park-9/22/31 -10, 28 PIM, 1SH, 4 GW $800,000

why pay 10 time the amount for the same production. The Rangers waste money, I do not want to see the Islanders do that, we have wasted enough on DP

by Rickfansince76 on Apr 12, 2010 11:19 AM EDT reply actions  

We haven't wasted that much on DP

A goalie who can play very well when healthy(that is a big if) for 4.5 million is pretty cheap considering some goalies are in the 5.5 million-7 range

by rockhouse15 on Apr 12, 2010 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

$4.5 mil is a good price for a goalie who can play as a #1 goalie

it’s a ripoff for a backup…even worse for a backup who cannot play.

by BCISLEMAN on Apr 12, 2010 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

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