Islanders Re-sign Gillies: Gettin' the band back together?
"Trevor provides us with a physical presence and commitment and dedication that every team looks for," said Garth Snow, General Manager, New York Islanders. "We look forward to having his energy on and off the ice next year."
On and off the ice. Interesting distinction. As in, "He will still be a scratch many nights, but have you seen Trevor's facial expressions? The man breathes fire from his mouth and shoots lightning bolts from his eyes."
Not related to Hall of Famer Jethro, but still: Gillies. It has a ring to it, so now don't they just have to bid on Eric Nystrom, even if he's saying the right things about staying in Calgary? (Note: That statement will not keep me from making small pleas for Nystrom The Younger like a fanboy all summer long. Sometimes you need pet topics.)
Anyway, after four-plus years since his first (and only) NHL game in 2005, Trevor Gillies' NHL career resumed in January as a spot-duty callup to face the Flyers at age 31. At some point down the stretch, with the Isles out of the playoff race and piling up injuries at forward, he transitioned to a regular enforcer rather than just the "for the Flyers" kind. Matt Carkner discovered that the hard way. How much this matters is up for debate.
As someone who doesn't believe in paying $1 million-plus for the leagues name-brand-but-washed-up enforcers -- you know, the ones who "paid their dues" and then try to translate that into resting on those dues -- this one-year extension (likely for around the league minimum) pacifies me.
Because Gillies will still get just his five minutes or so a night (when he's in the lineup), but unlike those veteran "name" enforcers he will at least know he still needs to earn it, and unlike the other bargains the Isles have tried in recent years (Joel Rechlicz, Mitch Fritz), Gillies is already experienced enough to handle the job and "fire up the boys."
(I don't mean to harp on the "star" enforcers of the league; they have an unimaginably tough job. But some of them earn their street cred as young guys, get their multi-million-dollar deals, and then forget about the only reason they're in the NHL. See, most enforcers become enforcers not for a love of the role, but because the other (frankly emotionally easier) roles in the league are beyond their skill set. It's either fight, or call it a career. So when an enforcer stops enforcing and starts thinking he's more important than he is, that just turns him into an overpaid bad hockey player.)
The Enforcers' Lament
Which is to say enforcers aren't important to any single win, and they're often detrimental. That's why when we enter the must-win season known as playoffs, most of them sit.
But they can be helpful in aggregate, spread over the course of a season: as a constant presence, an energy guy and protector for spot games, a guy who keeps things alive during the doldrums of an 82-game season, a guy who's appreciative of every night he's in the lineup, a guy who can move up and down to the AHL and be a low waiver risk. Reports have hardly been thorough, and observation is limited, but it sounds like Gillies delivers that. He certainly wants to deliver that.
He's still going to get spot duty. He's still not going to be a factor on the stat sheet. He's still going to have to win a job in training camp. If he makes it and if Gordon deploys him right (a big IF -- in the final game in Pittsburgh, he was on for two first-period even-strength goals that Sidney Crosby either scored or assisted on), he doesn't have to be a 5-on-5 liability. Hopefully he avoids the bad penalties as much as his role allows. And hopefully he makes his teammates feel a little bolder.
I know he's going to excite a lot of fans and fire up some teammates. Despite my long-held reservations about how people hype the role, I know there's some value in that.
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I had a feeling this would happen
Though I wonder if maybe management is grasping at straws? At any rate it’s kinda rad to see someone fighting again, especially someone who wins a lot.
Jackman
Is his contract up? I don’t recall how long his extension was. This would seem like an acceptable extension to cover the loss of another fourth line wing. It adds some physicality and mustache skills to the lineup when he’s in at least. I’m ok with this. If we can bring in Nystrom and sign one of the Sutter kids… well… you know..
I cannot wait for Rakh-tober.
Jackman's deal is up
Honestly, I don’t think this means we’ll see Gillies up here all year long. It means there’s a chance we will, and he’s earned himself the first shot at being fourth-line fighter.
I’m ok with this — it’s better than trying to force Rechlicz or a Fitz into the role. Whether it’s because he’s older or simply a better skater than they were, he seemed to earn Gordon’s trust.
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Yea. I don’t know if I’d say he has the same skill set as Jackman, but I think he’d be a decent occasional enforcer type player. He could manage to stay up as a healthy scratch if the team wants to pursue that angle I suppose. Rechlicz didn’t play much this year in B’port either, the elation might be over for him. I’d like to see us spend some money on quality 4th line guys and get us off the floor, but as I said, I’m pleased with this otherwise.
I cannot wait for Rakh-tober.
Jackman does kill penanlties, Gillies needs to learn PK skills
while our PK stunk, he was OK. He does seem to get to pucks a lot to, just couldn’t finish with it in the net.
a big guy on the PK is good, but he can’t take penalties
by Rickfansince76 on Apr 16, 2010 7:07 AM EDT up reply actions
Jackman really shouldn’t be killing penalties (and he hardly did last year, except in miniscule slices), but Gillies is never going to do that. Gillies is 31, his role and skills are known, it will be a circumscribed role.
The PK really cries out for guys with wheels and some hands to go along with the grit.
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The PK really cries out for guys with wheels and some hands to go along with the grit.
Nino and Gudbranson both answer that description.
I would Kill
For a Kaspariutius type DMan or even forward. Someone who just lowers the boom on players and is a good rounded player anyway. Hell, when was the last time you saw a player make hip checks on a regular basis.
Not bad, but I figure this has to be a 2 way deal, and someone who will play 10-20 games a year depending on the Isles Health. No one else is going to be looking to sign him anyway, so he might as well sign the first thing the Isles offer.
Mauldin Played for Columbus a few years ago, He has six career games.
Yeah, I’m thinking this means they thought he did a good enough job in the role, so they’d rather have him secured (cheap, proven) than rely on another project whenever they feel like putting on the foil.
Wonder how many games he’ll get; not looking forward to hearing “THEY SHOOD OF PLAID GILLEZ!” after losses. Enforcers can help, but toughness is a team effort.
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Hell, when was the last time you saw a player make hip checks on a regular basis.
All the more reason to bring back Sutton. But I watched every game this year and Freddy Meyer deserves major credit for stepping up after Andy’s trade to as you would say, lower the boom time and time again.
Jackman doesnt = Gillies.
They are different players. IMO there is a spot for both of them on the 4th line, depending on the matchup.
Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)
Matt Martin should replace Jackmans spot
Agree, Jackman and Gillies are not the same type of player, much different roles.
I can't remember
Whose sig is telling Wang to move to Queens? He’d love this.
The other Islanders one wasn’t that good, but the Rangers one was pretty good
Mauldin Played for Columbus a few years ago, He has six career games.
This Angers Me
What if there was no Greatness? Check the 84 Finals…
Mauldin Played for Columbus a few years ago, He has six career games.
They did not. Those bastards!
All the 99 clips to use, and they chose that?
I’ll answer the question: Phoenix probably doesn’t suck for the last four years.
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What if there was no greatness?
There’d be no Steve Smith.
by Nova Scotia Isles Fan on Apr 16, 2010 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions
Of course on the 4th line (excluding Nystrom, maybe), you’re usually just spotting wingers in around some sort of Park anyway.
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This is good move
Gillies has added confidence to the group. Something that, as much as he tried, Jackman [and Nate] didn’t do. Obviously, that’s just an observation, but you can tell they have been playing more physical with Trevor chained up in the yard… especially when that chain has a couple of loose links (if you know what I mean).
Gordon will have to play with 11.25 forwards in games where you know that the physical matchup is a question mark (Philly, Rangers…)
It’s nice to have somebody on the bench that will WIN fights, and can deal with a limited NHL schedule (he might play 25-35 games next year).
Another NO DOWNSIDE signing for the Isles.
As far as the PK goes… Jackman isn’t the answer there… they have a good core of players that can be used on the PK… and of the pending UFA’s only Park is a PK plus. Hopefully, as some have suggested they go with the team USA member Nystrom (or others) or re-sign Park. I think Jackman has seen his last day as an Islander…
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especially when that chain has a couple of loose links (if you know what I mean)
Ooohhh yeah. The chained dog is a perfect image for him. Every standard mugshot I’ve seen of him, I don’t even recognize, because it’s not the face he has during the games.
or 
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UFC on ice
I only get this from what I’ve read, and a BP TV video… Trevor is in MONSTER shape… his pre-game routine is a BP fan favorite (can a BP fan confirm that?). Freddy seems to be a health and conditioning nut as well. Guys like that are GREAT to have around the team because they tend to inspire the right kind of inner circle competitions…
The fact that Gillies has this LOOSE CANNON alter ego is entertaining, plus it puts the guys who like to dish it out, but are wary of TAKING IT on hold for a day…
It makes me wonder why a guy like Mirasty has never gotten much of a look. He’s the type of guy NOBODY goes up to during a face off and says, “you wanna go” (I HATE THOSE FIGHTS)… Because the dude doesn’t stop until he has nothing left… and there aren’t too many guys that want to see the bottom of HIS tank.
Gillies brings it that way… he has a UFC attitude… too bad he hasn’t shown the ability to play 8 responsible minutes. Maybe a summer with Cappy and Gordon will change that and the Colly faithful will get a STEVE WEBB that actually WINS SOME.
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I know off the ice Gillies is a class act. Both he and Rechlicz did the Albany kick, and Gillies is a good community guy. Obviously I don’t know the inside of the locker room with respect to what I just said, but he is congenial and goes out of his way to be a decent guy to the fans and whatnot, I can’t see that as a detriment to any team he plays for.
I cannot wait for Rakh-tober.
Freddy, conditioning nut
…and Blake Comeau credited FMIV with introducing him to better nutrition.
and there aren’t too many guys that want to see the bottom of HIS tank.Indeed.
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I like Gillies, but he is kind of a throwback to the 90’s type of enforcer (ie: Mick Vukota) who had no other real function besides fighting. You see fewer and fewer of those guys and trend now is to have guys who can provide some checking, hitting, occasional offense and fight when needed. A more well-rounded enforcer. Jackman had that role, the only complaint I had with him is that he lost a lot of fights and wouldn’t drop the gloves with everybody. I’d like to see Martin step into that role. He’s much more than just a goon but is not only more than willing to drop the gloves but wins too. I always had a soft spot in my heart for the enforcers but as the game is evolving I’d rather see that roster spot go to someone like Martin who is a well rounded good hockey player who will fight when needed, but offers so much more besides the occasional scrap. Its nice to have players on your team who can play hockey and fight. I would keep someone like Gillies around though and let him out of his cage for games against teams like the Flyers or Rangers.
by MatthewM11 on Apr 16, 2010 2:26 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Fat kid on the see saw...
Matt,
you are 100% correct. But what the Islanders need to do first is STOP THE BLEEDING. They don’t have a stable of balanced players who will stand up for teammates with any measure of disciplinary recourse. I want to see Okposo get midevil on somebody, but I don’t want ot lose him for 7 or 17 minutes either. I honestly wouldn’t mind it once, just to send a message… but the downside to that is when you lose him for 17 minutes, then he loses himself when he gets his clock cleaned.
So, on this team, they need that fat kid on the see saw. Sure, not too many guys are gonna sit on the other side… but when they do he’s gonna dangle in the air for a while… and it’s hard to be on the losing end of the penalty box matchup when your horse is Trevor “No Goals” Gillies.
The trend away from the “goons” lateley has mostly been because they are paid to do one thing… and they DON’T EVEN DO THAT WELL. Trevor does it well, isn’t a cap burden, and he’s a good locker room guy (as far as we can tell).
He definitely answers one of the unanswered questions from last off season. There’s no doubt that Phaneuf and Pronger still do their damage… but during hte course of those games somebody is gonna FEEL THE PAIN… and maybe there is less of it for the remainder of the season.
Jeez… I feel like I should be the dude’s agent.
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Yeah I agree completely. Didn’t mean to imply that Gillies or someone like him has no place on this team; in fact I feel completely the opposite. I do feel that as guys like Martin and Hamonic develop and hopefully someday soon find a spot on this team Gillies presence might be mitigated a bit and his role will be filled by players who bring more to the game aside from physicality. Even with players like Martin and Hamonic I think there will always be a limited role for someone like Gillies; just maybe not for all 82 games.
Matt, rec’d that comment for capturing the entirety of the enforcer situation (and my own feelings, actually).
This is why I like them going with Gillies vs. the established NHL enforcers, actually. There is still a small window for this basically one-dimensional role (diminishing all the time, it seems), but in this move they got someone who is experienced AND remains HUNGRY and appreciative of his spot.
Wish he were a better hockey player, of course, but his situation has crystallized things for him so that he has no delusions about why he’s here.
Seen too many enforcers who: 1) Fight everyone at first to earn their rep; (2) Attain their rep, do things in the community to strengthen their popularity among the fans; (3) Become fan favorites with an enforcer’s rep, and then think … that sterling rep guarantees them a job and absolves them of having to answer the bell.
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