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Islanders Gameday: Escorting Flyers to the playoffs since 2008

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This Is My "Me Be Tough" Face:
One of these guys is a dangerous weapon, one of these guys uses his stick as a weapon, earning him the dishonor of "NHL's dirtiest player" as voted by his peers
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In your mind, have the Islanders played a game this season, any game, that you would call a "must-win?"

Their playoff prospects were always a sort of meddling chance not killed by any one, but rather one thousand, cuts. (Or, if you prefer, killed by "rebuild/cheapness-related inadequacies.") Before the Olympics, they needed to rebound from their late January swoon to be in striking distance once GM Place transformed into Cleansed for Olympics Place. Didn't happen.

The pre-break blown-lead loss in Ottawa wasn't fatal, but it made their direction pretty irreversible (barring some sort of collective stink by Eastern bubble teams that, as it turns out, actually happened).

But even factoring in the persistent ennui that has characterized the playoff push by Philadelphia, Boston, Montreal, Atlanta and the Rangers, the post-Olympic Islanders never found that "Whoa, they're hot!" form they needed to reclaim bubble-icious credentials.

So if you grant all of that, I'm left to consider: Which two individual games did I want most this season? They were both this week. The first one turned a 2-0 lead into a 4-3 loss. The second one is tonight, against a foe the Isles haven't beaten in 15 tries.

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Philadelphia Flyers (
38-32-6, t-6th) at New York Islanders (30-35-10, 13th)
Nassau [
gloriously unsponsored] Veterans Memorial Coliseum
7 p.m. EDT | MSG+, CSN (Philly), radio
Masters of the Goalie Shuffle:
Broad Street Hockey

Several of us around here tend to note that the 2007-08 and 2008-09 editions of the Flyers are not playoff teams if they do not run the OT/SO-aided table (or nearly so) on the Islanders. The 2009-10 edition is one game away from earning itself that esteemed distinction. (Philly can still make the playoffs with a loss tonight, but why start now?)

Here, have a berth, I insist
Season Islanders record vs. Philly Flyers made playoffs by
2007-08 1-6-1 3 pts., 6th seed
2008-09 0-4-2 6 pts., 5th seed
2009-10 0-5-0 by a hair, if that??

Essentially, if the Flyers only go .500 against the Isles in any year, they don't get in.

(Oh, and the last season the Isles made the playoffs, in 2006-07 as the 8th seed? They went 6-2-0 vs. Philadelphia.)

So yes, I want this win. I want this more than any remaining game on the schedule and more than any from the last month -- even Tuesday's Rangers game which, let's face it, only conceded two more points to damage the Smurfs' own lottery dreams. I want it to end the winless streak against the Flyers, but also to entertain us with the anxiety that afflicts a cap-ceiling team that is in danger of missing the playoffs after failing, for the 20th consecutive year, to address its goaltending.

Because most of these desires are impure and would turn your average nun red, I don't expect to get what I want. But for a few hours, before Chris Pronger does a Flyer thing and gets away with it (because the only thing more automatic than a Flyers suspension in Colin Campbell's league is an unpunished offense perpetrated against an Islander), I can hope for the best.

"Hope," ... that's why we watch, right? 'Cause you never know? 'Cause this could be the night, but probably won't be the night, but the night always comes just when you think it won't?

But in all honesty, four of the games this year were one-goal games, some closer than others. The streak is due to end sometime and it won't be a big shock when it does.

 

Rosteral Manoeuvres in the Dark

And speaking of Campbell's wheel of justice, Dan "Smarter than Colton Orr, but Not by Much" Carcillo is out thanks to a two-game suspension for getting his stick up on David Clarkson during an altercation. My initial reaction was ... well, we can't call it empathy for the dude, but I thought he'd been hard done by. It was likely "accidental."

But then I got a grip and remembered the league allows fights and aggression, but it does not allow your stick to be involved in your aggression under any circumstances -- accidental or otherwise. In short, except when following through on a shot, you are always responsible for your stick, even more so than your elbows. You are allowed a gun, and you are allowed to hunt, but if you wave your gun in an altercation and it "accidentally" goes off, you're responsible for the result.

(And the fact that you can try to pummel someone with your fists with no disciplinary consequence -- again, Carcillo excepted in Campbell's NHL -- yet cannot inadvertently get your stick involved without getting the book thrown at you? Well that's just part of the cognitive dissonance that defines hockey's ambiguous "code" and makes the NHL look absurd to outsiders, and plenty of insiders.)

Goalies: Expect Martin Biron, who has been sharper since he learned he wasn't going anywhere at the deadline, to start in goal. For the Flyers, it's Brian Boucher backed up by the latest guy picked up off the street.

That Guy: Underrated pre-deadline acquisition Ville Leino is getting his chance with the Flyers.

Prospect Stuff: Jared Spurgeon's season and junior career has ended in a Game 7.

 

League and Lottery Business

Did you see old friend Jason Blake had a banner night, with five points (1G, 4A) to make Colorado fans even more nervous than before?

Also last night: Carolina beat Montreal and Tampa Bay beat Pittsburgh, both hurting their lottery efforts and making the 8th-seed race more interesting. Dallas whaled on San Jose and Evgeni Nabokov (5 goals on 21 shots), so the nervousness quotient among NHL fanbases is at an all-time high right now. Half the league's playoff hopefuls are either facing goalie issues or playoff bubble issues. It's awesome.

And here's a shock: A TSN guy with a convoluted formula rates the Islanders blueline as 28th in the league. Yes, even with Bruno Gervais, Dylan Reese and Mark Flood in the mix, they still beat out Edmonton and Tampa Bay's blueline (really?!), in his estimation.

Prediction: John Tavares scores. Pronger does something stupid.

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But really, shouldn't that be......

‘….Carolina whaled on Montreal’?

by ogam5 on Apr 1, 2010 12:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Ha, indeed. Can’t believe that one never occurred to me.

Lighthouse Hockey: What's wrong with lotteries? I've been in lots of lotteries.

by Dominik on Apr 1, 2010 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

hasn’t that prediction been the same for every flyers game?

NY Islanders Hockey: Where MRI's are addictive

by bob l on Apr 1, 2010 1:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Why mess with a reliable standard?

Lighthouse Hockey: What's wrong with lotteries? I've been in lots of lotteries.

by Dominik on Apr 1, 2010 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well Pronger doing something stupid isn’t exactly a prediction. It’s just a statement of a fact, no?

We're doomed. Doomed!

by David Hanssen on Apr 1, 2010 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha, from S.I. listing...

Dion Phaneuf is the most overrated NHLer, according to a poll of his NHL peers by Sports Illustrated.
While not scientific in nature, it reveals what his competition thinks about the defender. And stats do back up the claim. Phaneuf has zero goals in 21 games with Toronto and just 29 points in 76 games this season. That is down from 47 points last year and 60 the year before that. Not a good trend. New York Ranger Wade Redden ranked second on the list, former Ranger Scott Gomez was third and current Ranger Sean Avery is fourth. Edmonton’s Shawn Horcoff rounds out the top five.

NY Islanders Hockey: Where MRI's are addictive

by bob l on Apr 1, 2010 1:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Haha

That whole list is pretty funny.

The last highlight of Phaneuf I saw was him letting Antropov tip a shot in past his goalie … then cross-checking Antropov after the goal, in that lovely sore-loser fashion that defines guys like him.

Lighthouse Hockey: What's wrong with lotteries? I've been in lots of lotteries.

by Dominik on Apr 1, 2010 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wasn’t there talk of Phaneuf being captain material in Toronto? Was I imagining that or is that accurate? Because honestly I couldn’t think of a better captain. not because of his leadership abilities, because of all the hair pulling, agita inducing moments it would create for the Leafs fans.

We're doomed. Doomed!

by David Hanssen on Apr 1, 2010 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

i remember hearing that fluff too after like a week when they traded for him

NY Islanders Hockey: Where MRI's are addictive

by bob l on Apr 1, 2010 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yep, some Canadian columnist was pimping that, quoting Wilson saying how much Dion talks and makes the team talk more.

The best part is watching Leafs fans do a 180 on him. There are certain players given the “hate to play him, love to have him on your team” tag that I simply cannot talk myself into. He’s one of them. Not that I wouldn’t recognize his contributions (when he’s not running around his own zone), but I’d always be uncomfortable seeing him in Isles colors.

Lighthouse Hockey: What's wrong with lotteries? I've been in lots of lotteries.

by Dominik on Apr 1, 2010 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow, I agree completely with the SI poll. Phaneuf has just gotten worse and worse every year. Redden? I wouldn’t call him overrated since it seems everyone, including ranger fans, are in agreement that he sucks. Where’s Olli Jokinen on that list? Phil Kessel?

by MatthewM11 on Apr 1, 2010 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Prediction...

After this one….only 5 games to the playoffs, baseball full time(aka watching the mets suck), the draft, july 1st, more baseball, getting our camp updates in fortune cookies, and hopefully an opening day roster that gives us hope of not having to worry about lottery picks next year.

Wahoo…

Wang doesn't need to fire Gordon, just ask him how to address the third period meltdowns... and he'll just walk away.

by JPinVA on Apr 1, 2010 1:47 PM EDT reply actions  

aka watching the mets suck

Luckily I will be living out of market for the second half of the season. Instead I will get to watch the Twinkies get swept out of the playoffs by the Yankees again.

We're doomed. Doomed!

by David Hanssen on Apr 1, 2010 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

come on we can win

I am being optimistic..we win tonight

by Rickfansince76 on Apr 1, 2010 2:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Hey, it can happen. You could look at their last few games as inching closer. You could look at the Flyers’ shaky goalie situation, and the fact the Isles owe us 60 minutes at home after letting Tuesday night slip away.

On top of that, these bubble teams are trying to out-choke each other. Finally losing to the team you’ve beaten 15 times in a row would very choke-worthy.

Lighthouse Hockey: What's wrong with lotteries? I've been in lots of lotteries.

by Dominik on Apr 1, 2010 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

...and maybe I'm a Chinese jet pilot.

The only way the Isles win tonight is if the Flyers forget to return to the ice in time. However it would be the ultimate slap in the face to see Biron beat the Flyers in their last meeting of the season where the Flyers are hovering around the playoff floor. Then have Biron as a special guest in the booth for the Flyers’ first round exit playoff games.

Please let Roloson and Biron be the guest announcers on some Chicago playoff broadcasts...please hockey Gods!

by metalcoconut on Apr 1, 2010 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

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