NHL Trade Deadline thread: At what price, Roloson?
by Dominik on Mar 3, 2010 6:00 AM EST
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Mid-day Update: As of noon EST there's been no movement on the Islanders front. But multiple reports claim mild interest in Sean Bergenheim, Richard Park, and Martin Biron. Don't expect any bombshells -- the currency of the day has increasingly gone toward later and later draft picks -- but stay tuned. Meanwhile, we're having fun trading bits and quips in comments.
It's the most nerve-wracking calorie-compiling B.S.-spewing exciting non-gameday of the year!
Yesterday was a perfect microcosm of the compressed insanity of the NHL Trade Deadline. Start the day wondering if Andy Sutton will be around for the game. By mid-day you learn he's gone. The afternoon and evening take on the chaos of rampant Dwayne Roloson rumors -- from on his way out to "Wait. But he's in net. Like now." to an outstanding Roloson performance in front of one of the teams that could use a goalie upgrade.
Online, Roloson has been everywhere from Philadelphia to Chicago as part of the Cristobal Huet TARP Bailout 2010. Yet as the evening closed, while one HNIC commentator was speculating about how big a player Garth Snow could be on March 3, Chris Botta was closing shop from the Coliseum shortly after Garth Snow did, reporting: No offers for Roloson have exceeded a 3rd-round pick.
This post serves as our general trade deadline thread, open all day. Any new Islanders moves will warrant their own separate post, but you can consider this the place for general commentary and adding league news and rumors. Comment on last night's game in the recap. Comment on the Sutton trade in that post. In the meantime, what's your minimum price for Roloson?
I found reactions to the Sutton-for-a-2nd to be surprisingly mixed. But I think it's safe to say almost everyone agrees a 3rd for Roloson is a non-starter. The goalie market is flooded, but I need a real asset to part with a reasonably compensated known quantity like Roloson for the mixture of free agents and prospects that will float to the surface this summer.
There will be day-long indexes all over the place, but a few you might like are at the NHL.com site, including an "insider" Twitter feed gatherer and this running update feed -- as well as this helpful trade deadline FAQ. Finally, for updated reactions and analysis from other teams' fans and writers here at SBN, follow along at our central NHL Trade Deadline hub:
P.S. If you were one of the ones disappointed about the renting of Sutton, well, just be glad your not an Oilers fan. In the name of Tambellini...
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Nothing more than a 3rd rounder? Fine. We Can afford to keep him and give away Martin Biron. Never mind his age, Rolo has been the better of ur 3 goalies. And now, with DP having fluid on his knees, its better that we don’t give away Rolo for something we already have. I’ll be glad if Garth sticks with Rolo toshow him he wasn’t just here to fill a uniform for most of the season. Biron, on the other hand, hasn’t deserved much, and if we get a bag of pucks and coupons from Wendy’s then take it.
Get out of the sticks, Charles, move to Queens!!
Roloson
I don’t know if a 2nd rounder does it for me, but what can you reasonably expect to get for a 41 year old goalie? He is signed next year so he’s not true rental but imo his age keeps the Isles from getting more in return. It wouldn’t be the worst thing if they keep him.
I don’t think the Isles will be big sellers today (watch them go crazy now).
He was a boy of soft demeanor
And he loved his caburetor cleaner
Age is number. You can’t put a price on two things: 1) Roli has proven he can take a team to the Finals and 2) He’s a top 10 goalie in the league…right now. Also, you can’t forget that the Islanders have an an extra bargaining chip…Cap Room.
If I were Garth, I would push something like this (considering they played the Hawks last night):
Chicago acquires: Dwayne Roloson, 2010 2nd Round Draft Choice (SJ’s) and their choice of Tambellini, Gervais or dare I say Bergenheim.
Isles acquire: Cristobal Huet, 2010 or 2011 3rd Round Draft Choice or Kris Versteeg.
Not only does Chicago solve it’s short-term problem of starting netminders that look like Swiss cheese, they pick up a serviceable young player that could use a “change of scenery” and at the same time dump about $8 million in salary.
The Islanders receive a former #1 goalie who could probably benefit from a fresh start and a really good young winger in Versteeg who surprise, surprise used to play for a certain Go-Go Gordon back in 2006-07 in Providence.
What do you guys think?
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by IslesOfficial on Mar 3, 2010 9:26 AM EST up reply actions
With that package
I’d want a higher pick from them if we were throwing in more than Roloson. To me Huet is a huge tax in the deal because of that contract — you’re buying not just that anchor but you’re also sticking yourself with the obligation to play him or pay him to go away.
I’d approach it like this: What are you giving me for Roloson? And then what are you giving me for taking Huet off your hands? Otherwise, no sale.
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Well put. I was wondering when you were going to chime in. LOL
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by IslesOfficial on Mar 3, 2010 10:07 AM EST up reply actions
LOL. Connection was down all morning! Perfect day for it…
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Hypothetically speaking, If we do move Rolo, what do we do next year?
I’m hopelessly devoted to DP, but does that entail we’ll try Biron for yr 2? Run with Lawson as our B guy?
I’m also interested how dedicated we are to acquiring draft picks. Stockpiling picks over prospects in the AHL is a good way to build up “your” organization in your image. If we can manage to not trade those picks to move from a pick in the mid 20s to pick 12 again….. we might have something here.
With that said, if we do move Roloson, I don’t think a 3rd is acceptable. Much like Sutton yesterday, it might not be realistic, but does he provide more for the team now than what we will be getting in return? Heavy question.
i got 99 problems, but Streit gettin' hurt in the Olympics aint one!
To say it nicely, We Are F*cked. Rolo has to stay now that DP is again a huge question mark. And another thing…Can Snow trade Biron? Are there any takers for a bad goalie?
And please, don’t take a third rounder for Rolo. We need him more than a 3rd in a bad draft year.
Get out of the sticks, Charles, move to Queens!!
Yea, I kinda feel the same way. I think people get stars in their eyes a bit without considering the future in the next year too. If we do move Rolo, we have a big question mark in net. It’s not a case of talent, but of health at that point… which means we need other talent, heh. We gave up a guy who was one of the leaders in hits, and second in blocked shots yesterday for a 2nd rder, my hopes aren’t high for a pick(s) today.
i got 99 problems, but Streit gettin' hurt in the Olympics aint one!
I normally chat with toronto fans and they say the same things. We can get this and that for this guys… and Kaberle will waive his NTC LOL
Get out of the sticks, Charles, move to Queens!!
I say move Tambellini to Toronto. They need any and all forwards, send him off for some playing time.
On another Toronto note: Pierre is saying on TSN that it’s a five year job just to fix the Leafs. …. I hate the Leafs, but what are these hosts credentials? sigh
i got 99 problems, but Streit gettin' hurt in the Olympics aint one!
Ever hear of Mikko Koskinen?
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by IslesOfficial on Mar 3, 2010 9:27 AM EST up reply actions
DP and Biron...
You people are star struck with Rollie, Biron’s talent is so close he’s just been shelved this year. Isles are really no better no worse with Biron over Rollie next year.
DP Has swollen knees and Biron will lose 99 percent of the games we put him in.
Get out of the sticks, Charles, move to Queens!!
thats BS, Biron is a good Goalie.
IMHO his talent is better than Rollie, but he has yet to ever put it all together.
Look at his record with the Isles and say that again…
Get out of the sticks, Charles, move to Queens!!
Um, seriously your going to judge him on 19 games with the isles where his sat for long periods...
look at his career he has better stats than Rollie. Yes Rollies been more clutch in the playoffs but thats putting the cart before the horse, not to mention he’s not going to be 39 years old next year.
he has yet to ever put it all together
Sounds like the excuses we make for Tambellini. In the NHL, you have to be able to put it all together…or you go to the AHL. Roly has been flat out better than Marty all year long. That’s why Marty has been sitting. Roly also has value as a money goalie that Marty does not. Question is whether we will get enough value to justify a trade.
No because he has yet to put it all together to be the truly elite goalie he has the talent to be
not just be an NHL goalie (as the Tambs comparison would be). Biron has had some pretty good seasons in the NHL, he just needs to show it in the playoffs, he has won 30 games twice (something Rollie has never done), has won 20+ 5 times (Rollie has only done it 4 times).
Who has more career wins Biron, the better career GAA. Biron, career Save% Biron, cereer shutouts Biron, all while being 8 years younger.
Tambellini would be better compared to Scot Monroe or Joey McDonald,
Not start struck, but stuck…. and happily so. Rolo has proven to be the best of our 3 pro goalies. He likes pressure and desires a lot of playing time.
Get out of the sticks, Charles, move to Queens!!
Out short term, he's always going to be the #1 unless they buy him out
Rollie is awful as a back-up/1b, Biron is perfect in that spot.
Well maybe not perfect, but he doesn't have the history that Rollie has...
of only doing well when playing every game.
unfortunately, that may not be afforded to us if Biron chooses to not return either.
i got 99 problems, but Streit gettin' hurt in the Olympics aint one!
I also think the Isles situation is a perfect one for a lot of goalies...
like Biron, that are viewed as a back-up by most teams. With DPs health, you know your going to get a lot of work, and if you succeed you could wind up the starter.
I would not take anything less than a very high #2 for Rollie...
but to say we need him now though is stupid, Isles are not making the playoffs this year. Rollie is only better than Biron if he plays all the time, injury or not Isles are committed to DP so that will never be the case, reality is Biron is the better fit for the team as back-up/1b goalie. Rollie is 38 years old, and has no long term future with the team. Trade him now (and resign Biron, unless we’re getting Huet in a salary dump in the deal) and make a profit on him while you can, with that said I would not just give him away for a 3rd rounder.
Screwed
Good point Martys301….nobody wants our third and fourth line players. And they are definately more valuable to us than other teams.
We just have to hope that we can convince some top tier talent to sign with us in the summer and pray that JT stays on after his entry level deal expires. I keep thinking that, once that is over, he is going to want to bolt. Scares the crap out of me actually! LOL
He wouldn’t be able to as he would be a Restricted Free Agent.
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by IslesOfficial on Mar 3, 2010 9:28 AM EST up reply actions
San Jose's 2nd
So…what is your complaint with that pick and the Sutton trade? Is it that you want Sutton for the rest of the year? Or you were optimistic he’d come back? To me a 2nd is market value for a rental like Sutton. If it weren’t, someone would have bid higher.
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Ok, First I wouldv’e prefeered Sutton stayed and anchor our young defense. Second, all we got was a late second. I still think Snow should try for bodies, not draft picks. As someone pointed out to me a few minutes ago, the Isles have nothing, with the exception of JT to show for our draft picks.
I do know we have guys in our farm system, but that doesn’t win us a Stanley cup.
Get out of the sticks, Charles, move to Queens!!
Considering the rebuild in earnest only started two summers ago though, of course it won’t win a Cup — yet.
Supposedly they’re high on this year’s draft, so picks may make sense over other clubs’ stalled prospects. I just don’t see a lot of live bodies flying around for rentals, except last night for Poni in Toronto. And that was because Pitt already sent out a 2nd and Poni is a more helpful acquisition. I get the feeling live bodies are just something easier to talk about; a lot of times they just end up proving why another team gave up on them.
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Bergenheim
According to a tweet from Bob McKenzie, Bergie is available
by billymac23 on Mar 3, 2010 9:43 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Bergie
Bob McKenzie just tweeted that Bergenheim was a healthy scratch and might be in play today.
I’m not biting on it.
i got 99 problems, but Streit gettin' hurt in the Olympics aint one!
If you watched last night’s game, you knew he was scratched
What his value is, and who will go with him is a good question
Get out of the sticks, Charles, move to Queens!!
I could not watch last night sadly :( but thanks for twisting the knife Martys!
lol, anyway, I hope we don’t get rid of him. No reason to. High motor who can forecheck/backcheck, speed. I dunno, I’m happy with him being a 3/4 role player.
i got 99 problems, but Streit gettin' hurt in the Olympics aint one!
LOL sorry. You can follow some of the trades at TFP…
http://twitter.com/TheFourthPeriod
Get out of the sticks, Charles, move to Queens!!
Got them too. I’ve got TSN’s trade tracker up so I can listen to their live audio. I hate how US users can stream their official show off the website… so stupid.
i got 99 problems, but Streit gettin' hurt in the Olympics aint one!
Your’e from Canada? I wish TSN would allow the US to watch and listen
Get out of the sticks, Charles, move to Queens!!
*can't
sorry about that. D’oh! from NY
i got 99 problems, but Streit gettin' hurt in the Olympics aint one!
If you have NHL network, they’re simulcasting TSN today. Horay, if only cablevision actually carried it…
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by David Hanssen on Mar 3, 2010 10:13 AM EST up reply actions
If anyone is interested in joining a live chat from Toronto (aimed at mostly TO fans), then let me know.
Get out of the sticks, Charles, move to Queens!!
Thanks to Firefox, I can follow a few sites by just clicking on a tab
Get out of the sticks, Charles, move to Queens!!
OK, so this is the chat i am in …so come along if you dare
http://www.hockeyleaks.com/chat.html
Get out of the sticks, Charles, move to Queens!!
McKenzie is saying it’s not a done deal yet
Blackmail is such an ugly word. I prefer extortion. The X makes it sounds cool.
by David Hanssen on Mar 3, 2010 10:11 AM EST up reply actions
He was called up in case MN does trade someone. He’s not the object of the trade however. If there is no trade, he’ll move back down again.
i got 99 problems, but Streit gettin' hurt in the Olympics aint one!
Get me out of Edmonton, please
This gave me a laugh (Dreger Twitter):
To encourage a trade, Sheldon Souray has softened…won’t go to a CDN team, but will waive for 19 other teams.
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Pagnotta of TFP is talking about a NYR-EDM deal perhaps. No names, just talks. Dropping the hint. Morning Dom.
i got 99 problems, but Streit gettin' hurt in the Olympics aint one!
Was reading a lot of funny stuff on that front — funny stuff that should produce great teeth-gnashing copy from Oilers fans. It’s like watching a black comedy.
Heavens, what has come of the Oranges and Blues of yesteryear? (It’s not copper, whatever they claim.)
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Toronto expected to trade Skoula for pick or pickss…
Get out of the sticks, Charles, move to Queens!!
they really need to get some forwards.
i got 99 problems, but Streit gettin' hurt in the Olympics aint one!
It’s like they’re resigned to Boston getting Hall/Seguin now. Clear the decks, restock over the summer…but with what?
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Last Year's Deadline was much more interesting
I swear I’ve hit refresh a thousand times this morning and gotten the same damn stories on TSN. This is depressing.
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I hear you. …still time to pick up, maybe? I don’t know, we got spoiled by the Phaneuf and Giguere trades earlier; today, Ray Whitney is supposed to pass for sexy.
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I’m not impressed. Whitney is too old for me. I like ’em a bit younger and more female.
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by IslesOfficial on Mar 3, 2010 10:19 AM EST up reply actions
Good point. That femme name “Whitney” can’t fool you. La-la-la-la-Lola…
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Well, we could discuss who we think Mike Peca will predict for his 2018 Team Canada Olympic team in the next hour!
i got 99 problems, but Streit gettin' hurt in the Olympics aint one!
whoa…Washington is putting a package together for Kaberle
Get out of the sticks, Charles, move to Queens!!
Who do you think you are? Eklund?!
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by IslesOfficial on Mar 3, 2010 10:23 AM EST up reply actions
Who is quite awesome IRL as a matter of fact.
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by IslesOfficial on Mar 3, 2010 10:24 AM EST up reply actions
Rumor-monger much?
Kaberle’s told everyone and their brother he’s keeping his NTC.
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i gave the link to what i am reading. I courteously repeat things here
Get out of the sticks, Charles, move to Queens!!
Fair enough
But I’m not thinking that repeating rumors from a chat room is the best idea. Bombshells need links.
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What trade would make you laugh most?
For me, it’s if Olli was flipped again.
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That one has been thrown around. You need to talk to Bruce Garrioch about that. He might keel over and die if it actually happened.
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by IslesOfficial on Mar 3, 2010 10:27 AM EST up reply actions
That'd be awesome!
“As I first reported three years ago, Malkin is going to the Kings.”
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It's not as funny as...
the Porno Stache he had during the Olympics.
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by IslesOfficial on Mar 3, 2010 10:26 AM EST up reply actions
Now the only question is how you turn Olli Jokinen into a 70’s porn star name?
Blackmail is such an ugly word. I prefer extortion. The X makes it sounds cool.
by David Hanssen on Mar 3, 2010 10:29 AM EST up reply actions
The Finn is here to fix your cable and give you a double Jokinen.
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Roloson goes back to EDM for Nilsson.
lol, I’m reaching here.
i got 99 problems, but Streit gettin' hurt in the Olympics aint one!
No, Nilsson AND O’Marra!
Blackmail is such an ugly word. I prefer extortion. The X makes it sounds cool.
by David Hanssen on Mar 3, 2010 10:28 AM EST up reply actions
Hmmmm, trading enigmas… Interesting
Blackmail is such an ugly word. I prefer extortion. The X makes it sounds cool.
by David Hanssen on Mar 3, 2010 10:36 AM EST up reply actions
Confirmed by Bob McKenzie. No word on the return yet. Could be Mueller.
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by IslesOfficial on Mar 3, 2010 10:31 AM EST up reply actions
TSN Trade
Derek Morris is officially going back to Phoenix.
Marteklund with the nice call. Details are forthcoming for who is coming back for him. Like the move though, Morris belongs in PHX.
i got 99 problems, but Streit gettin' hurt in the Olympics aint one!
What a difference a year makes.
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I really, really hate first year trading, and the Bruins are NOTORIOUS for bringing in guys and then shipping them back out. Why would anyone want to sign there?
i got 99 problems, but Streit gettin' hurt in the Olympics aint one!
Word is it’s a pick back to Boston, no word on what it is though.
Blackmail is such an ugly word. I prefer extortion. The X makes it sounds cool.
by David Hanssen on Mar 3, 2010 10:34 AM EST up reply actions
Ahhh, thank god for TSN’s live feed.
Blackmail is such an ugly word. I prefer extortion. The X makes it sounds cool.
Nevermind… Stupid Canadians
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by David Hanssen on Mar 3, 2010 10:32 AM EST up reply actions
Amen.
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by IslesOfficial on Mar 3, 2010 10:33 AM EST up reply actions
Boston got a 4th rounder for whats his name goin to phoenix
Get out of the sticks, Charles, move to Queens!!
That hurts. If Sutton went for a late 2nd. Who hates that trade now?
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by IslesOfficial on Mar 3, 2010 10:37 AM EST up reply actions
Plus, it’s pick for NEXT year’s draft (2011)
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by IslesOfficial on Mar 3, 2010 10:38 AM EST up reply actions
lest we be reminded that Dominic Moore went for a 2nd rd pick also..
i got 99 problems, but Streit gettin' hurt in the Olympics aint one!
From Pierre “I have experience with bad treams” Gauthier.
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Yeah, but that’s apples to oranges in my mind. Sutton provides more minutes and is a big shutdown presence. Moore is a good PK guy and can put in some goals.
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by IslesOfficial on Mar 3, 2010 10:40 AM EST up reply actions
Wow. Stock fall.
From Prucha + Dawes + Kalinin to a 4th round pick.
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Ya think?
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by IslesOfficial on Mar 3, 2010 10:40 AM EST up reply actions
What is it that people see in Derek Morris? He isn’t getting younger. I thought the Isles might get him 5 years ago…but that’s …5 years
Get out of the sticks, Charles, move to Queens!!
Need I remind you that Sutton is turning 35 this month? Morris is 31.
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by IslesOfficial on Mar 3, 2010 10:44 AM EST up reply actions
“We have baggage, you have baggage. Wanna swap some baggage?”
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I swear if the Rags somehow manage to get out from under one of Glen Sather’s bad contracts, I would be convinced he has blackmail photos of every GM in the league.
Blackmail is such an ugly word. I prefer extortion. The X makes it sounds cool.
by David Hanssen on Mar 3, 2010 10:42 AM EST up reply actions
That would kill me. It’s either blackmail or calling in old favors.
Especially when that team can just buy out or bury in the minors; no reason for the rest of the NHL to accept their toxic contracts.
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TSN's trade tracker so far is hilariously unsexy
Boynton! Ponikarovsky! D’Agostini! And for dessert…DEREK. MORRIS!
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by David Hanssen on Mar 3, 2010 10:47 AM EST up reply actions
And what exactly is a Palushaj?
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by David Hanssen on Mar 3, 2010 10:44 AM EST up reply actions
Now there is the million $$$$$$$ question.
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by IslesOfficial on Mar 3, 2010 10:45 AM EST up reply actions
I can’t describe it in this setting, but it’s illegal in most Southern states.
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So is that why it was sent to Montreal?
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by David Hanssen on Mar 3, 2010 10:47 AM EST up reply actions
Almost as illegal as Olli “The Jokester” Jokinen’s porn stache. He really needed some handlbars on that thing.
“Who wants a mustache ride?”
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by IslesOfficial on Mar 3, 2010 10:48 AM EST up reply actions
This is quickly turning into the Trade Thread brought to you by Skinemax
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by David Hanssen on Mar 3, 2010 10:49 AM EST up reply actions
There’s always room for Jell-O and sexual innuendo. No matter what the discussion is.
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by IslesOfficial on Mar 3, 2010 10:50 AM EST up reply actions
Could have sworn we had a K-Y ad running today…
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Here we go. It’s a party now.
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by IslesOfficial on Mar 3, 2010 10:53 AM EST up reply actions
Giggidy
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by David Hanssen on Mar 3, 2010 10:53 AM EST up reply actions
Meant to mention
Newly acquired Dylan Reese dropped a goal yesterday for Bport, Just a tidbit, interesting pickup
i got 99 problems, but Streit gettin' hurt in the Olympics aint one!
Skoula flipped to NJ. Confirmed. Lou has been more active than usual this year.
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Wonder if last year’s flop combined with Washington/Pittsburgh scare him into action.
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Possibly. If I were him I’d be concerned about Marty. He didn’t look like himself during the Olympics.
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by IslesOfficial on Mar 3, 2010 11:02 AM EST up reply actions
Marty’s last hurrah … surely it’s one of these years, dammit.
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I'm gonna laugh...
When he bombs in the playoffs and kovalchuk takes a ride down the pike after the season is over.
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by IslesOfficial on Mar 3, 2010 11:10 AM EST up reply actions
Official: Skoula flipped to NJ
Rekindling Lemaire-Skoula love.
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Hah. Beat ya!
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by IslesOfficial on Mar 3, 2010 11:01 AM EST up reply actions
McKenzie
Now tweeting that Bergenheim, Park, and Biron garnering most interest. [@TSNBobMckenzie]
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More from McKenzie on the Isles
Tweet tweet: Marty Biron, Sean Bergenheim and Richard Park drawing most of the interest on Long Island.
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stealing my thunder! I have to hyperlink like that from now on.
i got 99 problems, but Streit gettin' hurt in the Olympics aint one!
Haha, no prob. We are all in sync it seems. Permission requested to use the bathroom now.
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Granted. I’ll text you if I hear anything pertinent.
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by IslesOfficial on Mar 3, 2010 11:04 AM EST up reply actions
Dont want to give up Park
I feel like he is undervalued and would expect nothing less in a trade offer. He is gritty and works hard. These are things that are invaluble to the youngsters development
Keaton Ellerby
called up to Florida from Rochester. Caught it on their feed, might be nothing, just passing it along.
i got 99 problems, but Streit gettin' hurt in the Olympics aint one!
Just a side note
I remembered that Dominic Moore went for a 2011 2nd Rounder. Sutton’s is a 2010 2nd. I’m gonna go with the Isles scouting staff asked for that one.
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If 2011’s draft really does party like it’s 1999, then uuugly.
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If that’s the case then the market has changed drastically since yesterday. I knew Garth hadn’t screwed himself.
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by IslesOfficial on Mar 3, 2010 11:11 AM EST up reply actions
Isles have a list of guys they are willing to trade, Bergy, Tamby, Park, Maybe even a D man. But one of our goalies should go. I hope its Biron.
Get out of the sticks, Charles, move to Queens!!
I have serious doubts about Biron going for anything more than a 3rd or 4th. Rollie is where the value is at.
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by IslesOfficial on Mar 3, 2010 11:15 AM EST up reply actions
who aren’t you seeing? Bergy and or Hunter could fetch something better than what we have…
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That's how I see it, really
In this corner you have sellers who have early picks. In this corner you have buyers who have late picks. But each pick is like that GM’s token, he can only use it once. The 2nd-rounders from buyers have mostly been burned now, and nobody is burning 1sts. Even the teams who have two 1sts are in danger of having both be very nice ones.
So now we’ve got the bargain bin (3rds, 4ths) or anchor contracts as currency.
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I can agree with that. I hate trading for so many picks though. Seems defeatist.
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by IslesOfficial on Mar 3, 2010 11:18 AM EST up reply actions
I agree. I want talented players in return to help with the rebuild.
Get out of the sticks, Charles, move to Queens!!
But you need to give up talent to get talent. And we don’t have much of that.
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I think that’s why Snow is working on picks. To try and stockpile some future talent and get it in the system and work with it in a few years. I harp on Jerry D’Amigo (WJCs) because he’s a friend, but I mean, kid went to Toronto in the 6th rd, and THEN hit the map.
i got 99 problems, but Streit gettin' hurt in the Olympics aint one!
You know Dom, its all about what Snow and Wong want. If they thiks theres a chance at the playoffs, then they will deal that way. Most of though have already seen the best in these players and it most likely won’t happen again this season.
If and when JT wakes up from his 2 month slumber, he might score again some day.
Get out of the sticks, Charles, move to Queens!!
So by that philosophy, right now they want to continue rebuilding, so they’re collecting picks rather than spending them.
They’re still in a weak buying position, because all they have are very old UFAs, mid-level guys who haven’t clicked with the Isles, and young stars who they plan to build around. Their only real leverage is cap space, so the options for acquiring real talent are very limited.
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Yeah, I’m not interested in fetching 4ths and 5ths and stuff. I guess if they decided they were getting rid of someone (Tambellini, for example), then dumping them now for picks is better than letting them walk for nothing.
Stockpiling picks really does give you flexibility at the draft though, because as we saw last summer, there are teams who want to be able to pick/replace their picks each round even at the cost of moving down.
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Skoula
goes for a 5th Rd pick. Bargain.
i got 99 problems, but Streit gettin' hurt in the Olympics aint one!
Worse than I thought…
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by IslesOfficial on Mar 3, 2010 11:19 AM EST up reply actions
True, but I also think this shows how much of a “system game” the NHL can be. One man’s treasure is another man’s…. 5th rder? Perhaps so.
i got 99 problems, but Streit gettin' hurt in the Olympics aint one!
Only if you’re Jacques Lemaire who enjoys employing a system where the other team is bored to death.
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by IslesOfficial on Mar 3, 2010 11:22 AM EST up reply actions
I’d be bored to death if I was leading the division.
i got 99 problems, but Streit gettin' hurt in the Olympics aint one!
The Devils are the only team that can put me to sleep while watching a hockey game. That’s sad.
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by IslesOfficial on Mar 3, 2010 11:26 AM EST up reply actions
Remember Skoula was cut by like two other teams during training camp though.
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The difference between training camp and now is a story unto itself. Recall that Matt Moulson was battling for a spot on the Isles roster and now is their leading goal-scorer.
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by IslesOfficial on Mar 3, 2010 11:27 AM EST up reply actions
Too true.
Clearly the rest of the league WERE IDIOTS FOR PASSING on Moulson, hee hee.
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Surely Sather will do something
He always has to make a move, doesn’t he?
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Getting around lunch time. Things will pick up after 12 because of the waiver decisions. People will start coming back on.
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by IslesOfficial on Mar 3, 2010 11:30 AM EST up reply actions
Lunch time
Hopefully the other 29 GMs have a few cocktails with lunch.
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Preds want a first + for Hamhuis. Devils want him, but aren’t close.
Wolski could be headed Carolina’s way
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Poile has a nice game of poker going on. I wonder if he flinches. Keeps leaking that they’d be happy to hang on to Hamhuis.
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Dreger
says Seidenberg is the man to Boston. Tweet
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Not bad…
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by IslesOfficial on Mar 3, 2010 11:33 AM EST up reply actions
Seidenberg and Bartowski for Weller, Bitz and a 2nd Rd pick, wow.
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Bitz alone would have been a pretty good trade.
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by IslesOfficial on Mar 3, 2010 11:36 AM EST up reply actions
Wow, way more involved than I imagined.
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Aaron Ward to Anaheim for fourth-rounder and goalie Justin Pogge.
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Interesting. Wonder what the intent with Pogge is there.
i got 99 problems, but Streit gettin' hurt in the Olympics aint one!
His stock has fallen so much he’s most likely a backup for the farm team
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by IslesOfficial on Mar 3, 2010 11:45 AM EST up reply actions
Not something they need. That’s the weird part, they have several goalies they’re high on, so much so they’ve split Peters and another kid between AHL/ECHL just to make sure they both have enough starting playing time. Very interesting, unless they plan on moving someone later.
i got 99 problems, but Streit gettin' hurt in the Olympics aint one!
No doubt. Did they force Carolina to take Pogge?
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Do a shotgun, a .45 and shovel help that argument?
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by IslesOfficial on Mar 3, 2010 11:46 AM EST up reply actions
I hear Bob Murray prefers barstools.
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Well played, sir.
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by IslesOfficial on Mar 3, 2010 11:53 AM EST up reply actions
Mild interest in Bergenheim
Botta with a mini-post on that, nothing new.
Can’t help myself, I’d miss Bergenheim. Never stop wanting him to put it all together. Helpful PK guy at least.
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I like Bergie too but how long can you wait. Reminds me of Nokeleinen.
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by IslesOfficial on Mar 3, 2010 11:45 AM EST up reply actions
Absolutely. It’s like a messed-up relationship. So many scars now, might be best for both to move on.
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Only thing better would be Heatley to ATL.
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How about Heatley to a Plastic Surgeon? Boy is fugly.
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by IslesOfficial on Mar 3, 2010 11:54 AM EST up reply actions
Since getting another player killed in a DWI is not a crime anymore, i really have a dislike for Heatley
Get out of the sticks, Charles, move to Queens!!
RIP Dan Snyder
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by IslesOfficial on Mar 3, 2010 11:58 AM EST up reply actions
No DWI
I can’t stand Heatley and the spoiled little ship he came in on, but for the record there was no DWI.
Also for the record, he had to give 150 speeches on “speeding,” which I’m so totally sure he did. Yep.
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Off to Lunch
Grabbing Chinese. Anyone want some? I might have to ship it in a flat-rate post office box. It’ll get there 3 weeks from today…
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Damn you make me crave it now.
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Armstrong to Philly is possible
Vokoun in goal tonight….
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Oilers
Managed to grab Ryan Jones off of waivers, haha.
i got 99 problems, but Streit gettin' hurt in the Olympics aint one!
Ha! Stumbled into something there. Sounded like he was the best asset on waivers.
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holy F, 4 hour training where i can’t log in and bam, 200 comments i have no time to sift thru, lol
ok, so who’s taking park off our hands?
and i know it must have been said, but “trade Blake, his value will never be higher than right now” lol
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No names on the Isles’ marginal interest yet. Rather quiet day, actually — but the really crazy witching hour is yet to arrive.
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If no one offers at least an early second or a late first round pick
keep Roly. If we are taking Huet, I want one of Chicago’s second round picks.
thank you. WE CAN’T GET NINO AND ANOTHER WITH LATE ROUNDERS RIGHT!?
i got 99 problems, but Streit gettin' hurt in the Olympics aint one!
with a number of second round picks
we could theoretically trade down from #3 with Anaheim for its two first rounders and its second rounder and then move back up and get Nino and Gormley. Failing that, we can still draft Nino with a trade down for second rounders and enhance our subsequent picks with players like McIlrath, Cisse, and maybe even Pulkinnen if he falls low enough.
Maybe it’s because he’s French. He’s fired upon, he immediately surrenders.
Blackmail is such an ugly word. I prefer extortion. The X makes it sounds cool.
by David Hanssen on Mar 3, 2010 12:19 PM EST up reply actions
I’ve been WAITING for the French jokes on Huet to begin. Not a one last night.
It would be awesome if he redid his mask to depict the Maginot Line.
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Vive La France!
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by David Hanssen on Mar 3, 2010 12:22 PM EST up reply actions
Craig Custance mid-day update
Typical of the quiet day so far, actually. Supposedly LA and Washington are gunning for Whitney though.
I have to call B.S. on this part though:
Toronto expects more of a market for Garnet Exelby after a couple dominos fall on defense. Right now it’s quiet. If he’s traded, it’ll be for a late first-round pick. There have been rumors that Philadelphia is interested.If Exelby fetches a 1st, my name ain’t Nathan Arizona.
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Howdy Nathan!
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by David Hanssen on Mar 3, 2010 12:24 PM EST up reply actions
Custance corrected it
I asked him in the chat and he said he mistyped — should be “late-round” pick.
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I’m hearing a late round pick, unconfirmed, let’s not jump the gun.
i got 99 problems, but Streit gettin' hurt in the Olympics aint one!
It’s just a shame the draft only has seven rounds now, haha.
Do I hear an 8th? Anyone? An 8th rounder? Going once…
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How about an 11th rounder?
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by David Hanssen on Mar 3, 2010 12:33 PM EST up reply actions
Chip Alexander
writer for Canes thinkings Scott Walker might be on the move.
i got 99 problems, but Streit gettin' hurt in the Olympics aint one!
Even just listening to him on TSN’s audio feed makes me hate Regis “Pierre” McGuire more and more
Blackmail is such an ugly word. I prefer extortion. The X makes it sounds cool.
“I’LL TELL YOU THIS RIGHT NOW, THIS KID WAS A MONSTER IN THE OHL. COACH PISS-AND-VINEGAR LOVED HIMS, SAID HE ALWAYS BATTLED IN THE TOUGH AREAS, THAT’S THE KIND OF PLAYER THE PENGUINS ARE GONNA LOVE COME PLAYOFF TIME…”
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My favorite today on Mueller:
“The kid decided to take the hard route and go to the WHL instead of the easy, simple route and play at the University of Minnesota”
Can we have Kyle Okposo punch him in the face?
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by David Hanssen on Mar 3, 2010 12:43 PM EST up reply actions
Please, punch him twice. Interesting way to rationalize Mueller’s struggles.
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You know, I tend not to offend easily, but bashing going to college because it’s " the easy route" pissed me off.
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by David Hanssen on Mar 3, 2010 12:53 PM EST up reply actions
Yea well, I mean getting a higher education and having options to live off of after hockey really does make life easier. What asshole with true grit would EVER do that? psht.
i got 99 problems, but Streit gettin' hurt in the Olympics aint one!
Yeah, definitely not this guy, nor this guy, nor even him!
Blackmail is such an ugly word. I prefer extortion. The X makes it sounds cool.
by David Hanssen on Mar 3, 2010 12:56 PM EST up reply actions
And college is so clearly such an easy route to the NHL. :kicks Pierre doll:
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Oh, you have a Pierre voodoo doll? can you mass produce them?
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by David Hanssen on Mar 3, 2010 12:59 PM EST up reply actions
Logistical challenge
The assembly workers end up destroying them before they come off the line.
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Well, I guess I could always put glasses on a lex luthor doll
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by David Hanssen on Mar 3, 2010 1:05 PM EST up reply actions
So, it's 12:30 p.m. EST
Decent fish (relatively) still in play:
Ray Whitney
Raffi Torres
Theoretically Dan Hamhuis
On a blue moon Tomas Vokoun
Anyone else remotely realistic?
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It might have been Custance yesterday who said if we pick up Hamhuis, we’d have the HAM AND SWISS (Streit) !
love it! hahah
i got 99 problems, but Streit gettin' hurt in the Olympics aint one!
With a Great Dane to clean up the crumbs.
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On a Rol
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by David Hanssen on Mar 3, 2010 12:38 PM EST up reply actions
DiPietro update
The update is … that an update is still expected later today. :snort:
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TSN
Yan Stastny moving from STL to Vancouver for Cedric Labrie, confirmed.
I really like Labrie, this is interesting as Labrie is more of a prospect and Stastny will probably be in Manitoba.
i got 99 problems, but Streit gettin' hurt in the Olympics aint one!
*confused*
And Yan passed waivers multiple times this year. A move purely to help Manitoba? (Because I can’t see Yan upgrading the Canucks.)
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Has to be. Might be one of those veteran type players that can help develop prospects, you know? Very undervalued at times.
i got 99 problems, but Streit gettin' hurt in the Olympics aint one!
Yeah, and people definitely love him — very well liked.
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Kaberle
Any chances?
Maybe that 2nd round pick, Bergie, and Park??
NMC, he’s not leaving Toronto
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by David Hanssen on Mar 3, 2010 12:42 PM EST up reply actions
Kaberle has said he wants to rermain a Leaf. And you aren’t close to the true price….
Get out of the sticks, Charles, move to Queens!!
“Nice Dream” = good Radiohead song. Nothing wrong with dreaming. Just gotta keep the motives in mind.
In this case, Toronto isn’t in the salary-dumping mood — the only reason Kaberle’s name pops up is because he could still fetch a nice bounty. But each year Burke says if they dealt him, they’d only have to replace him over the summer with a a different puckmover who commands more money. So the only incentive is if he fills a lot of depth holes, which the Isles cannot provide.
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TSN
Peter Mueller and Kevin Porter for Wolski.
i got 99 problems, but Streit gettin' hurt in the Olympics aint one!
twice youve quoted TSN after i wrote that it was being done…
Get out of the sticks, Charles, move to Queens!!
Sources are much appreciated
The goal here is to share news (citing a source) and discuss it. Particularly on deadline day, there are way too many rumors and unfounded online B.S. to dissect every claim. So it’s easiest to stick to confirmed MSM reports/tweets, then we know what we’re reacting to.
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Nice deal
Swap struggling flashes with big potential. Love those kind of deals.
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Phoenix 1st round picks over the last couple of eyars:
09 – Ekman-Larsson
08 – Boddker, Tikhonov
07 – Turris, Nick Ross
06 – Mueller
05 – Hanzal
That’s a whole lot of wasted 1st round pick by Phoenix
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by David Hanssen on Mar 3, 2010 12:48 PM EST up reply actions
crazy, considering how they’re deep in the playoff hunt right now.
i got 99 problems, but Streit gettin' hurt in the Olympics aint one!
Yeah, Turris is struggling in the AHL, Mueller is now an Av, Tikhonov left the team to play in the KHL, Hanzal hasn’t lived up to expectations, I hadn’t even heard of Ross until I made the list…
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by David Hanssen on Mar 3, 2010 12:51 PM EST up reply actions
Amazing
I wonder how much is drafting and how much is development. They didn’t reach when picking Turris or Mueller, did they?
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No, I would say the only reach of the group was possibly Hanzal, but 05 draft is so far back I don’t know how he was ranked.
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by David Hanssen on Mar 3, 2010 12:54 PM EST up reply actions
Hunter
any chance he could be moving? would he even make a good trade or just a 3/4/5 pick?
I imagine Snow would entertain the thought, but it’s probably as much a question of timing as of talent right now. If this was the first two weeks after Hunter returned from injury, we could’ve had a decent pick for him. Now? Eh, just another mid aged skater I’d suspect.
i got 99 problems, but Streit gettin' hurt in the Olympics aint one!
He’s one that might return a body simply because he’s not a rental. But that would require a team believing in him for the length of his contract, and I’m not sure what buyers are out there who would view him that way.
His uneven scoring makes it a hard sell. Essentially: “Who thinks this is the guy to put them over the hump?” Maybe a team that was deep on defense but thin on the wing, swapping contracts? Just thinking out loud…
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Dan Tencer, writer for the Oilers mentioned two D-men might get the call up from Springfield. FIRE SALE
i got 99 problems, but Streit gettin' hurt in the Olympics aint one!
er, not writer, Radio guy rather for them.
i got 99 problems, but Streit gettin' hurt in the Olympics aint one!
Heh, I think he writes, too. Read from … McKenzie maybe(?) that the Oilers weren’t practicing nor talking to media today. I think Tambellini wants it real quiet so he can be allowed to meditate.
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Yea, they’ve been in blackout mode, channeling Garth today. Feel bad for them, now I know how the Isles looked from the outside looking in last year. Ugh.
i got 99 problems, but Streit gettin' hurt in the Olympics aint one!
I’ve yet to come across an Oilers blog — and damn, there are a thousand of them! — that isn’t really pissed with how they’ve handled things.
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Matt Schneider
Is moving to PHX, per TFP. hmm
i got 99 problems, but Streit gettin' hurt in the Olympics aint one!
Man, Phoenix is making a run! Those fans better turn out.
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The Goalie Situation
If I’m interpreting Botta’s chat right, he just said either Biron or Roloson will be gone today.
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The Tkachuk-Boston dance
Hilariously, Boston is kicking the Tkachuk tires (per Custance) yet again. An annual mating ritual, never consummated.
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I’ve heard the past two days Kariya and Tkachuk both have no intention and no desire of moving out of STL. This would be interesting.
i got 99 problems, but Streit gettin' hurt in the Olympics aint one!
I guess the Preds asked for too much for Hamhuis. Or did they want to keep him?
Get out of the sticks, Charles, move to Queens!!
A little of both? Has that one been declared over yet?
I still feel like he’s one they could hold out on until the deadline. He was the best D available, so I could see them asking more. But there just aren’t a lot of better assets out there. Sounds like no one is giving up a 1st for Hamhuis or Torres — at least not until the wire, anyway.
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I thought for sure Torres would move. May still happen…day isn’t over yet…
Get out of the sticks, Charles, move to Queens!!
Supposedly there were “ten” teams interested this morning, which could be why Howson was thinking he could get a 1st.
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per Friedman , (Teddie?) Purcell and a 3rd rd pick is coming back for Halpern.
i got 99 problems, but Streit gettin' hurt in the Olympics aint one!
That’s more than I’d have thought for Halpern. At least I thought there were hopes for Purcell as recently as this season.
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TB really worked them over in that deal, but I think LA really believes they have a shot and with the vets like Halpern and Smyth they could go deep. I can see it.
i got 99 problems, but Streit gettin' hurt in the Olympics aint one!
Meanwhile
The Canucks have sent down Brad Lukowich and he has cleared waivers. That’s odd.
i got 99 problems, but Streit gettin' hurt in the Olympics aint one!
And here I thought someone picked him up. But I think that was procedural in case someone wanted him today.
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Kaberle has agreed to be traded…depending on the team
Get out of the sticks, Charles, move to Queens!!
Botta
just shelled JPinVA, ouch. Lol, it was a fair question.
i got 99 problems, but Streit gettin' hurt in the Olympics aint one!
I know!
It was fair, I thought. Not saying he’s a Cup winner, but if he were a RW there’d have been a few more opps for him. Bailey’s move was big.
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I mean, a glut of mid level grinders is still a glut is it not?
i got 99 problems, but Streit gettin' hurt in the Olympics aint one!
Exactly. To me, as with Tambellini, there are two tangoers in this stalled development. Totally reminiscent of failed relationship, with the baggage clouding future decisions.
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Botta is something… he’s a good guy but he has his eh moments.
i got 99 problems, but Streit gettin' hurt in the Olympics aint one!
You wanna see one of those, check out his latest…
Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)
by TheMetalChick on Mar 3, 2010 11:26 PM EST up reply actions
CB, getting back to Bergy. Is this more a function of the glut at LW or is Sean really not a good fit(In your opinion)… With Park on the block, Weight headed to the pension plan and Bailey moving into the LW population do they try to use that roster spot for a center?
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geez you two stop trying to cut and paste the trades here first, lol
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Gretz on TSN coverage
AdamGretz: Darren Pang and Pierre McGuire are fighting about who Washington’s fourth line center is. Most entertaining part of TSN’s coverage today
Bahahaha.
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I’m not watching, but I could be on NHL Network. That was a quote from AdamGretz in his AOL chat.
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NHL network has it on
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by David Hanssen on Mar 3, 2010 1:49 PM EST up reply actions
It is hilarious. I’m watching CBC (who just had a great interview with Sutton [insert lament here]), and they’re shitting all over TSN, rolling over here.
i got 99 problems, but Streit gettin' hurt in the Olympics aint one!
Bastard with your CBC access! Go ahead, flaunt it why don’tcha. :raises fist, shakes broom:
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Dom: http://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/tradedeadline/
they allow a live video stream. McGuire-less also! how sweet is that!?!?! lol… I wasn’t holding out on you.
i got 99 problems, but Streit gettin' hurt in the Olympics aint one!
its ok, i turned it online at 8 and it said Canuks only and I wasn’t happy/….
Get out of the sticks, Charles, move to Queens!!
It’s not just for Canadians. I get it here in upstate NY, lol.
i got 99 problems, but Streit gettin' hurt in the Olympics aint one!
Dom: http://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/tradedeadline/
Graci! There goes my remaining shred of concentration…
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Halpern
Has 17 pts in 55 games. Got Purcell and a 3rd for that… That can be Trent Hunter, Richard Park, Sean Bergenheim …. etc. etc..
i got 99 problems, but Streit gettin' hurt in the Olympics aint one!
Several sources, as well as a few people on twitter, say there is a potential deal in the works that would send Sean Bergenheim and Dwayne Roloson to Chicago for Christobal Huet and a first round pick. That may not be the full deal, but it sounds like Chicago is getting creative looking for another goalie. Stay tuned to Hockeyleaks.com all day tomorrow for the latest.
http://hockeyleaks.com/forum2/index.php?topic=7170.0
Get out of the sticks, Charles, move to Queens!!
I'm not crazy about
that deal. I don’t like taking on Huet’s contract when the Isles already have a bad contract in DP. I like the pick but not Huet and his contract.
He was a boy of soft demeanor
And he loved his caburetor cleaner
SNY (the mets channel in ny-metro area) had 2 mentions of DiPi’s contract yesterday on 2 shows, topic “worst sports contract ever”
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Well
the Mets should know a thing or two about bad contracts. I say this as a Met fan.
He was a boy of soft demeanor
And he loved his caburetor cleaner
agreed, funny because they NEVER bring hockey up on that channel, then both the Wheelhouse and Loudmouths both rip into DP and the albatross
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thats low hanging fruit
for the idiots on those two shows, especially Carlin.
He was a boy of soft demeanor
And he loved his caburetor cleaner
I wouldn’t like it either. I’d need so much more to take on that stupid Huet contract.
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i’m battling a cold, was kind of out of it when i watched it (late last night too) so i need to re-watch it before i get to in depth i think :-)
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Being out of it is the best way to consume “Lost,” is it not?
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no way man, i’m the guy that figures out ‘who did it’ 1/2 way through shows, and this is one show that keeps messing with my mojo in that realm, i pause and rewind if need be, but last night i could barely stay awake… my friend did give me the sayid vs anakin S.W. Ep. 3 and it was very nice parallel
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TSN
saying Curtis McElhinney to Anaheim.
Few people caught on this earlier, but another odd one. Anaheim loves the weird useless backup tenders.
i got 99 problems, but Streit gettin' hurt in the Olympics aint one!
Well, they dumped Pogge, so they pick up a goalie equally as incompetent.
Blackmail is such an ugly word. I prefer extortion. The X makes it sounds cool.
by David Hanssen on Mar 3, 2010 2:02 PM EST up reply actions
they swapped him for…. Toskala. What the hell?
i got 99 problems, but Streit gettin' hurt in the Olympics aint one!
Hilarity ensues
Sutter just doesn’t like life unless he’s up against the cap. Two Funky Finns, one crease.
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is this the comedy trade we were waiting on?
i got 99 problems, but Streit gettin' hurt in the Olympics aint one!
Can we call them the Calgary Maple Leafs now?
i got 99 problems, but Streit gettin' hurt in the Olympics aint one!
Only if Kaberle wind up there
Blackmail is such an ugly word. I prefer extortion. The X makes it sounds cool.
by David Hanssen on Mar 3, 2010 2:07 PM EST up reply actions
Does Sutter have a weird obsession with underachieving Finns?
Blackmail is such an ugly word. I prefer extortion. The X makes it sounds cool.
by David Hanssen on Mar 3, 2010 2:04 PM EST up reply actions
Watching PJ Stock on CBC brings me back to this
lol; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RyPSW9qQmk
i got 99 problems, but Streit gettin' hurt in the Olympics aint one!
Oh yeah. Classic. Saw someone today retweet Ek’s “Mueller to Atlanta.”
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You know who could use Bergenheim?
Philly. Supposedly they’re done trying to upgrade in goal, so now they want depth at forward. He’d fit them, IMO.
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Mat Schneider
the return was: Sean Zimmerman and a 6th rder.
i got 99 problems, but Streit gettin' hurt in the Olympics aint one!
FYI, site admin
I’ll drop a note in comments, but at some point after the deadline passes I’ll put up a new post to carry further comments. (And if the Isles make any moves, those will receive separate posts.) This one will start to lag under the volume anyway, but I’m supposed to throw in fresh pretty prose, too.
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Raffi
going to the Sabres. [TFP]
I like this, I think
i got 99 problems, but Streit gettin' hurt in the Olympics aint one!
Nice move.
(Well, I haven’t seen the return, but…)
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Nathan Paetsch and a 2nd rder. Good trade for both teams. Paestsch is a Schubert kind of guy who can play forward and d man but is a 7th defenseman. Nice.
i got 99 problems, but Streit gettin' hurt in the Olympics aint one!
Nice for Torres, too
He’d said he and his wife didn’t want to leave Columbus. At least he didn’t get shipped cross-country.
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TSN just said this is Torres’ third NHL team. Completely skipped over the Islanders. LOL
i got 99 problems, but Streit gettin' hurt in the Olympics aint one!
Skipped over the who? Never heard of ’em.
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CBC vs. TSN
Man, it is INSANE how much more palatable CBC’s coverage is compared to TSN.
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Thoughts on this supposed Snow strategy?
@DNFlyers Believe it or not, I’m told the Islanders are looking to dump a few players with Roloson, something the Flyers can’t do.
Discuss.
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Take my Tambellini, please!
Blackmail is such an ugly word. I prefer extortion. The X makes it sounds cool.
by David Hanssen on Mar 3, 2010 2:32 PM EST up reply actions
I dunno.. he also just said that we were in no serious talks with anyone. Does he work for Fanhouse or HockeyBuzz? lol
i got 99 problems, but Streit gettin' hurt in the Olympics aint one!
Could it have been after they closed shop? Anyway, I bet that was the word flowing from PHI to their scribes. Sounds like only half of the story (not like the Isles are burdened with contracts).
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Weekes pimps Biron to Buffalo
on CBC: “I know Biron would love to be in Buffalo…” riffs on home, chemistry with Miller, etc.
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i’ve seen weekes on nhl network, he doesn’t pimp out, he must know something
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I like him a lot. I didn’t mean to say he said it would happen, but I believe him when he says that’s Biron’s preference.
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on a completely self-important note, i’m on pace for 1000 comments by my year anniv…
bob l
joined Jun 09, 2009 last login Mar 03, 2010 posts 9 comments 756
i hope i make it, my club option kicks in at 900 but my incentives don’t kick in til 1k
:-)
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Yes!
We will have to make you a mysterious healthy scratch down the stretch.
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MacArthur to Atlanta
Wow, liked him on Buffalo. TFP
i got 99 problems, but Streit gettin' hurt in the Olympics aint one!
Third and Fourth Rd picks in return. … I think Atlanta won that.
i got 99 problems, but Streit gettin' hurt in the Olympics aint one!
Yeah, that’s a bit of an odd move by Buffalo
Blackmail is such an ugly word. I prefer extortion. The X makes it sounds cool.
by David Hanssen on Mar 3, 2010 2:41 PM EST up reply actions
I am assuming that Raffi Torres is taking over what was MacArthur's spot
so why not add a few picks?
This is the most boring Trade Deadline day I can remember….
Blackmail is such an ugly word. I prefer extortion. The X makes it sounds cool.
Dude, come on: CURTIS MCELHINNEY moved!
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And Aaron Palushaj!
Blackmail is such an ugly word. I prefer extortion. The X makes it sounds cool.
by David Hanssen on Mar 3, 2010 2:49 PM EST up reply actions
They’re probably telling themselves, “Just make it to year five, just make it to year five.”
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Jurcina back to Wash per McKenize
Blackmail is such an ugly word. I prefer extortion. The X makes it sounds cool.
Jurcina
back to Washington.. ? Really? Garth snow needs to beat someones head in and force a trade, lol.
i got 99 problems, but Streit gettin' hurt in the Olympics aint one!
did anyone know these existed?
and yes, that’s a snuggie-rippoff
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Bob, Snuggies are a backwards bathrobe ripoff….. lol
i got 99 problems, but Streit gettin' hurt in the Olympics aint one!
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!
Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)
by TheMetalChick on Mar 3, 2010 11:27 PM EST up reply actions
Leather couches?
Yes, I knew about those.
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I own one.
It was a GIFT, I didnt buy it lol.
Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)
by TheMetalChick on Mar 3, 2010 11:27 PM EST up reply actions
Souray
done with a hand infection, that’s a shame. Again, feel bad for him.
i got 99 problems, but Streit gettin' hurt in the Olympics aint one!
Stempniak
to PHX for mid/late picks, per TSN.
These guys really want something in the postseason
i got 99 problems, but Streit gettin' hurt in the Olympics aint one!
Good god, it’s almost overkill by them. Feels like a late-90s overstocking.
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Corvo
going to Washington for Pothier and some other stuff, per TSN. That’s a good trade.
i got 99 problems, but Streit gettin' hurt in the Olympics aint one!
hahahahahahahah
Anaheim picks up another Toronto Goalie, in Joey Mcdonald, for … who the hell knows.
i got 99 problems, but Streit gettin' hurt in the Olympics aint one!
Bizaarre, bizarre, bizarre.
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New post is up
If any remaining trades pop up, we can keep adding them here. But I put up a new post for deadline-aftermath comments.
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Few more minor trades trickle in
- Avs get Stephane Yelle from Carolina
- Phoenix gets Alexandre Picard from Columbus
- NYR get Anders Eriksson from Phoenix
- Phoenix (!) gets ol’ Petteri Nokelainen for a 6th
- Nashville gets Dustin Boyd from Calgary for a 4th
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