Islanders Gameday: These stakes are upside down
There is an NHL tweetup for this Islanders-Rangers matchup at the Times Square ESPN Zone, where fans of all teams are welcome to a reserved area and a $10 gift card for that venue's "sports arena." I can't think of a better game to get Isles and Smurfs fans together and hope they get along.
Because when will fans on either side be more accepting of a loss to the other than now, when both teams are closer to a juicy lottery position than they are to a playoff spot?
Long Island Islanders (29-33-10, 14th) at Short Island Smurfs (31-32-9, 10th)
7 p.m. EDT | [Unsponsored but not Untainted] Garden | MSG, MSG+, radio
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Not that anyone's hoping for a loss in this historic rivalry -- no no, I assure you. But each side has its share of fans focused more on how the draft might fix what management or resources has not. Boston trounced Atlanta last night, creating separation between those two but also putting the Bruins seven points ahead of the Rangers.
If the Islanders win tonight in regulation, it would create a two-point separation between 23rd and 28th place. I don't have to go into the lottery odds of each slot to convey how that's a big deal. Hugh Jessimans do not grow on trees.
I already covered how I feel on the matter -- but no matter the context, I'll always accept the blood of Rangers defeat on my hands. I figure karma would reward the Isles later for delivering justice. But really now, one of these days this rivalry will again find the caliber it deserves, and both teams will be on the upswing at the same time. That's when the real fun will resume. Alas, whether Glen Sather finally quits (hey Mess!) or sticks around 'cause it's a really cushy job, that time seems a ways off.
Tonight, each team will take the ice paying lip service to their remnant playoff chances, which might produce an enticing game. But neither team has played well enough at any point this season to put together the kind of miracle run now required to squeak in -- even if it's only other mediocre Eastern Conference teams standing in their way. I once saw tonight and next week's final derby as two chances for the Islanders to kill their rival's playoff hopes, but the Rangers didn't really hold up their end of the bargain.
Lineup Shenanigans
- Despite earlier, heh, "fears," Sean Avery should be in and Ryan Callahan looks possible too.
- With Martin Biron spending yesterday with his pregnant wife, he was still expected to be at the Garden to backup Dwayne Roloson. Whether Trevor Gillies or Jeff Tambellini gets the final forward spot, expect neither to get much ice time.
- This will be the first Battle of New York game for Dylan Reese and Dustin Kohn. Gillies too, should he skate, so you can imagine him getting amped up for it.
I'm actually impressed Gillies hasn't fought yet in his six games. He's only logged three shifts in each of his last three games (all wins), but I appreciate an enforcer who doesn't fight just to justify his presence.
TV Network Shenanigans
MSG, that behemoth acronym that has treated us so well these many years, is doing this as their first-ever 3D hockey game. Except you can't see it unless you are in a very weird and tiny subset of viewers. Or if you pay some crazy sum to watch it in the theater with some old Rangers who remember the team before Sather. (Derek at Battle of New York had a brutally honest take; no need to say anymore.)
Triple Prediction: Avery does something stupid. An Islanders win tonight or next week takes the season series. Fans on both sides talk about baseball.
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my prediction...
goal explosion tonight, for both teams, defense is forgotten and the power plays consume over 1/2 the game… 3 fights and 2 game misconducts, all for the sake of an impressive 3D performance — as a result 3D tv sales jump all the way into the teens tomorrow at Best Buy
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Let's...get ready to RUMBA!!!
3 fights and 2 game misconducts
I can’t wait for the Avery v Gervais rematch…. G[eek]Q v Hell’s Kitchen.
Jesus would probably turn the other cheek too… but in a league where everybody walks on water I bet you couldn’t get a third rounder for the lord at the deadline.
The 3D is only worth it if they mic up Avery and Sim. Of course that would require a TV-MA rating, but it would be entertaining.
We're doomed. Doomed!
by David Hanssen on Mar 24, 2010 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions
If we do, does that mean we’re now his sloppy seconds?
We're doomed. Doomed!
by David Hanssen on Mar 24, 2010 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions
We can probably get an Olympic-quality slo-mo look at his diving technique, at least.
Lighthouse Hockey: What's wrong with lotteries? I've been in lots of lotteries.
Lets look at the Judges’ scores:
USA – 10.0
China – 10.0
GB – 9.5
France 9.0
We're doomed. Doomed!
by David Hanssen on Mar 24, 2010 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Canada (Phanuthbert) — 1.0
Lighthouse Hockey: What's wrong with lotteries? I've been in lots of lotteries.
wow, msg is really throwing the isles a bone tomorrow (and saturday), msg +2, standard def, while they have both HD feeds for the same dev/ranger game… nice work, and thanks
NY Islanders Hockey: Where MRI's are addictive
You just don’t understand the glory of both Joel Micheletti AND Chico Resch in HD.
We're doomed. Doomed!
by David Hanssen on Mar 24, 2010 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm sorry
I fell out of my chair laughing at this
Come on Isles! 11-0-0 or 10-0-1 I'm not picky! Playoffs!
3D is not so special...
I’ve watched almost every 3rd period in 3D… Disgust, Disbelief and Displeasure!
Jesus would probably turn the other cheek too… but in a league where everybody walks on water I bet you couldn’t get a third rounder for the lord at the deadline.
add diarrhea and maybe dihydrotestosterone (cause for male patterned baldness) and we break new barriers :-)
NY Islanders Hockey: Where MRI's are addictive
maybe dihydrotestosterone (cause for male patterned baldness)
It’s gettin’ awwwwful science-y in here…
Lighthouse Hockey: What's wrong with lotteries? I've been in lots of lotteries.
The kids who watched that grew up to be...
(Except me, of course.)
Lighthouse Hockey: What's wrong with lotteries? I've been in lots of lotteries.
I was just perusing Blueshirt Banter’s preview… they seem pretty depressed, eulogizing the Isles/Rags rivalry. Sure it isn’t what it was even when Crazy Theo and Webb were going at it 8 years ago, but I think there’s still some juice there. The Rags are still my least favorite team, I cannot stand Lundqvist (Swedish AND a Ranger, fuck him!) and I can’t imagine another team replacing the Rags for that spot any time soon.
We're doomed. Doomed!
I agree. Jim in particular likes to take a Big Brother/Little Brother approach over there — acting like there’s minimal benefit when they win (“Meh, we don’t care”), and greater loss when they lose. All part of the mental gamesmanship, really. Funny how either side sees the “glory days” as the time when it was intense and their own side was winning.
What’s great about it is the atmosphere is always turned up a notch, and we just need a decent seasons from each squad and the intensity will go up to 11 at the turn of Nigel’s dial.
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Why don’t you just make 10 louder?
We're doomed. Doomed!
by David Hanssen on Mar 24, 2010 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions
...
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…These go up to eleven.
Lighthouse Hockey: What's wrong with lotteries? I've been in lots of lotteries.
maybe this is the year booshirt fans lose the Messier complex
as in this the FA that will bring the Cup back again…and accept that their team will have to go through a painful rebuild if they are ever to be any good.
Wait, you’re telling me Lindros, Jagr, Drury, Gomez, Higgins, Fleury, Gretzky, Shannahan, Holik, Bure, Kovalev and Redden aren’t their saviors?
We're doomed. Doomed!
by David Hanssen on Mar 24, 2010 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions
in some ways
winning the Cup in 1994 by importing the Oiler franchise may have been the worst thing that ever happened to the Rangers.
Similar to the Lightning
I think Tampa’s only draft picks that year that were on the stanley cup teams were Richards, Vincent, Kubina, Dmitry Afanasenkov, and Martin Cibak. The rest were free agents and a few trades and we saw what happened with them after they won. Still not trying to rebuild and signing free agents to make the playoffs (sound familiar). Difference, Rangers spend a lot more and finish 11-7 while Tampa spends around 50 milion and finish 15-11 in the confrence.
Also
The Oilers pipeline running dry, keeping them from continuing that little feeder system.
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Honestly, they are full of shit.
All this “I dont care” talk is nothing BUT talk. I was at the Coliseum when the Isles kicked the Rangers ass this season, and in those final minutes when they realized their team was defeated the Raggie fans in the audience went nuts. Fistfights all over NVMC, hysteria, even the PLAYERS were watching the hysteria stands and commenting about it after the game.
Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)
by TheMetalChick on Mar 24, 2010 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions
That they still do the Potvin Sucks chant even when they aren’t playing the Islanders reinforces that too. I dunno, my pops is a die hard Rags fan and still hates the Isles (Although he has softened since the Sound Tigers came into existence and we went to many a game together, seeing a lot of the young guys develop i think gave him a connection to the Isles, so I think I might have mini-converted him?), most of the Rags fans I know hate the Isles more than any other team – I think Dom was right though, a decent playoff bound year from both teams and we aren’t talking about the “waning” rivalry.
We're doomed. Doomed!
by David Hanssen on Mar 24, 2010 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions
what I have reminded several Ranger fans
is that the Potvin chant only enhances the Captain’s claim to greatness. They don’t sing about Bobby O, do they?
That's the best chant
For exactly that reason. It doesn’t get old for me, because it’s like, “Good that you remember his excellence.” At least “19-40” is a reminder of something awful about them.
Lighthouse Hockey: What's wrong with lotteries? I've been in lots of lotteries.
but they didnt start the chant because they hated him, they had been hating him for 4-5 years without the chant, it wasnt til he ended Nilsson’s year that they started chanting at him… now it’s just a tradition more than a living hatred of him… i remember when we had Felix here it rejuvenated the chant a little but then it was actually apropos because he did kinda suck
NY Islanders Hockey: Where MRI's are addictive
You think Bobby O never put the hurt on a Ranger?
The Potvin chant is the best tribute Ranger fans could give to the Captain.
now it’s just a tradition more than a living hatred of him
Absolutely. I just like that their chant enshrines a Hall of Fame career and four Cups, while “19-40” enshrines … something else.
Lighthouse Hockey: What's wrong with lotteries? I've been in lots of lotteries.
while "19-40" enshrines … something else.
Clinical depression?
We're doomed. Doomed!
by David Hanssen on Mar 24, 2010 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Potvin, where for art though Denis P?
This article pretty much sums it up…
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/sarah_kwak/02/25/potvin.sucks/
The other story I really like, and refer to often, is from Don Maloney.(pretty sure) talking about the “Potvin Sucks” and “Denis Potvin beats his wife” chants. He said the rangers HATED when the fans would do it becasue Denis would take it out on them. “I’d like to see the guy from the blue section go into the corner with Denis” (paraphrased)
Potvin will always be my #1 Islander.
Jesus would probably turn the other cheek too… but in a league where everybody walks on water I bet you couldn’t get a third rounder for the lord at the deadline.
As much as it pains me to say it, Derek Jeter had it right when he said (Paraphrasing) “I love getting booed in Boston because it means I must be doing something right”
We're doomed. Doomed!
by David Hanssen on Mar 24, 2010 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Apathy, Crapathy!
I’m sure there are passionate Ranger fans, just as much as there are passionate Islander fans… but I’ve always had a sense that when you get your tickets from the Bulletien Board because your company can’t give them away to clients who don’t want to stand around waiting for a post 9:30 train, your fan base might be a little “soft”.
Sure, they love to pack the coliseum, where they have access… but they can’t even get tix for their own games becasue nobody loves the blue shirts more then the stuffed shirts.
So… there might be some rhyme and reason behind the apathetic treason.
WE KNOW IT MATTERS… Hell, I’m 300 miles away from the nearest Ranger fan (who cares) and it still gets me excited thinking there is going to be an Islander-Ranger game tonight.
Well… it’s either that, or WEDNESDAY IS PRINCE SPAGHETTI DAY!!!!
Jesus would probably turn the other cheek too… but in a league where everybody walks on water I bet you couldn’t get a third rounder for the lord at the deadline.
Lets Kick Some Ass!
If anything ever made bad seasons (not saying this was a bad season) better, It was beating the Rangers!
Don’t take their dribble, they were acting like the game earlier this year when the Isles were on a losing slide were a pushover. Then the Isles won the game (With that awesome picture of Okposo celebrating the goal that put it away) they were all bitching that of course it was because Garbonik was out and it was a bad blip on the radar.
Growing up around almost all Ranger fans (Or should I say fans of the Edmonton Oilers: The Later Years) makes me despise the Rangers with a passion.
Come on Isles! 11-0-0 or 10-0-1 I'm not picky! Playoffs!

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