Islanders Gameday: Blackhawks in, and Andy Sutton...?
NHL hockey, you say? I think I remember it from somewhere ... ah yes, last time I saw it, the Islanders were squandering two points to finish a 2-8 pre-Olympics spiral that pretty much iced their playoff hopes. Now on the ice they're facing an impossible uphill battle (24 teams resume action tonight), while off the ice they're reported to be weighing offers for 6'6" Andy Sutton. Their next three standings points will bring them up to where they finished last year.
Gotta hand it to XNBC: After two weeks of that experience, I'm actually happy to see MSG-plus-squared.
Way back in Fall, this is the game we looked at with scheduling intrigue, hoping thinking that by the NHL Trade Deadline the Hawks just might need a goaltending upgrade and cap relief, while the Islanders just might be the team to help with both. But the Hawks have worked things where they can afford to postpone their cap decisions until summer, and while the talk is still of the daunting uncertainty in their net, the performance of Martin Biron -- this year's designated pump-and-dump -- has not been the kind that makes a Cup contender say, that man is our answer.
My burning question as we sit here this a.m. is: Does Andy Sutton play this game? [Update: Uh, no.]
[NOTE: Obviously the entirety of this post was written before today's trade.]
All signs point to Sutton taking the first train out to the highest renter before tomorrow's 3 p.m. circus deadline. But roster-wise, the Islanders are full: Josh Bailey, Jack Hillen and Tim Jackman all come off IR today, putting the Isles back to a 23-man roster, including just six healthy defensemen and three goalies (with the latest knee swelling, Garth Snow meets with Rick DiPietro's doctors tonight). Thankfully this is a home game, so if Snow suddenly gets an urgent offer he can't refuse for Sutton or a goalie, an emergency replacement is within reach: Bridgeport plays at home tonight.
Meanwhile, if Snow is holding out for a 2nd-rounder-plus offer, are there enough bidders and a small enough pool of available defensemen for him to count on a deal?
Nashville has lifted RFA Denis Grebeshkov out of Edmonton, freeing UFA Dan Hamhuis for rent ... Philadelphia has waived Riley Cote and placed Ray Emery on IR, potentially freeing up about $2 million in space for a cap hit like Hamhuis ... Pittsburgh has already grabbed their man Jordan Leopold out of Florida ... Washington might like to improve their defensive depth, but George McPhee pledges not to get silly with mortgages for short-term gain ... Ottawa wants another defenseman but doesn't want to interfere with their top four and doesn't even like the price Pittsburgh paid for Leopold ... Niclas Wallin already went to San Jose before the break, but Carolina has more defensemen to offer who might water down Snow's leverage. As does Florida.
... And while we're at it, in the realm of goaltenders, Slovakian Olympic stud Jaroslav Halak was not at the Habs morning skate in Boston. And Chris Botta says the Flyers are keenly interested in Dwayne Roloson.
So while Snow waits out the market, figure Sutton to play tonight, and to get a warm send-off from the home fans, and to get his mercenary orders some time between tonight's 1st star interview and tomorrow's Oprah.
Olympians Come Home
Also getting a warm greeting should be Olympian Mark Streit, and maybe even the Hawks Slovakians, plus Jonathan Toews and Patrick Kane and a third of the Hawks' defensmen who all played in that game you might have heard something about on Sunday.
Whether those guys' gold-medal game (or bronze loss, in the Slovakians' case) hangover helps the Islanders tonight, we'll see. But either way, this is going to feel a little bit like the opening game of the season all over again: Guys returning from multiple destinations, practicing together but not playing "real" games, inviting a bit of the chaos and lack of system discipline that can drive a coach nuts.
Expect Dwayne Roloson and ANtti Niemi in net.
Islanders Who Need To Finish Strong
Josh Bailey -- Returning for a poorly timed injury (which probably was a factor in the Islanders' pre-Olympic spin), Bailey needs to pick up where he left off (55GP, 13g, 14a) and finish his sophomore year strong.
Kyle Okposo -- The Islanders' leading scorer with 40 points, KO needs to take his Olympic snub to heart and make a push for a 20-goal season. He was minus-4 with 1 goal, 2 assists in the final seven games before the break.
John Tavares -- The biggest slump of them all, the once-hot rookie has scored once since Dec. 23 and zero goals in his last 14 games. He needs to show he recharged his batteries over the break and is ready to return to his October form.
Tim Jackman -- Apparently returning to the lineup, he'll be playing for another contract. Though having to wear face protection for now because of the broken orbital bone, Jackman needs to come out like the physical energy guy he can be, and he needs to hold his own at 5-on-5.
Dwayne Roloson -- (Provided he stays...) With the loss of regular work thanks to Rick DiPietro's return, Roloson's once-elite form suffered in the New Year. With one year left on his deal and possibly in his career, he needs to make a case that he can be counted on even when he's not getting every start.
You can add any number of others, but I'll stop there.
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As for trade deadline stuff, if something with the Islanders breaks, I'll post a new thread. Otherwise, feel free to continue the deadline talk in the previous thread or start anew in this one. The usual in-game chat thread will also be up by game time.
Prediction: Patrick Kane munches on his mouthpiece.
This and That
Last July I was asked by FantasyHockeyScouts.com for two "breakout" projections on the Islanders. I don't really do fantasy, but I thought taking a shot at who might improve their point production could be achievable enough. Well, now 62 games in, they've revisited the picks, and let's just say one I nailed, and one I bombed.
That's life in a rebuild, I suppose. In my defense, this was back before anyone knew who Matt Moulson was, and I was instructed to pick someone fantasy wonks wouldn't see as obvious.
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Tons of players on waivers, btw
Ryan Jones (NSH), Lukowich (VAN), Envery Lisin and Voros (NYR), Eriksson (PHX), plus Chelios {snort} signs in Atlanta.
Lighthouse Hockey: Under contract through 2021, knees and hips be damned.
At the begining of the season
Who would have guessed that we’d be looking towards the return of Bailey for an offensive spark.
Please NBC, Fire Milbury, Hire Roenick Full time!!!
Volchenkov contract talks
Not going well, apparently. If he hits free agency, open the purse.
Lighthouse Hockey: Under contract through 2021, knees and hips be damned.
Prediction: Patrick Kane munches on his mouthpiece.
is that before, during, or after Hossa puts the hurt on us again?
why isn't #16 hanging in the rafters?
All of the above
But remember the Stand of Peter Mannino!
Lighthouse Hockey: Under contract through 2021, knees and hips be damned.
i dont want to remember mannino to be honest, because i remember his puffed up debut, with pops in the crowd, it’s the same kind of feel good story the isles throw at you to deflect how bad the team is/was
now if i’m forgetting something important than correct me with a bashing, but i knew then he had no staying power with the team or in the nhl so i didnt care about him being up with or playing even for that matter…
why isn't #16 hanging in the rafters?
Heh, I don’t think you’re missing a thing. Had the same impression of him — although I didn’t mind his cup of coffee at all.
In my mind, if you’ve got a wasted season (which it clearly was at that point), nothing wrong with giving a kid his five minutes of fame. Now he can say he played in the NHL, in front of his parents, and he stoned one of the best teams in the league in the process. I didn’t see it as a deflection so much as, well, hell this is more interesting than your average sleepy matinee during the dregs of a lost season.
Lighthouse Hockey: Under contract through 2021, knees and hips be damned.
that …. is a drubbing! lol
to be fair Bob, the kid is 19-3 with a 2.11 GAA on the Chicago Chelioses! er… Wolves. Atlanta might not need a young tender with Pavelec there now, but I can see him being a decent backup, or possibly moving to another club.
i got 99 problems, but Streit gettin' hurt in the Olympics aint one!
Wow! I knew he’d had a good start in Chicago, but I didn’t know it was like that. Save pct. of .928, too. Maybe he could find life as a backup.
Lighthouse Hockey: Under contract through 2021, knees and hips be damned.
Wired for Sound...tigers
I’m not a GM, nor do I pretend to be one (haven’t even stayed at a Holiday Inn express recently)… but if I was…
Sim… waiver wire… bridgeport
Jackman…waiver.. bridgeport
Park… waiver… bridgeport
Weight upper body injury (find him some office work for a few months)
I’d bring up Martin, Joensuu, and (Mauldin or Smith)
Use the 20 games to better understand what you have going into next year. The four going down can help BP try to make the playoffs… or we lose them on the wire… Oh well.
Nothing against any of them, but they are most likely going to be gone in July anyway.
MARTIN-TAVARES-OKPOSO
MOULSON-SCHREMP-HUNTER
JOENSUU-BAILEY-COMEAU
BERGENHIEM-NIELSEN-(MAULDIN/SMITH)
Steit-MacDonald
Sutton(?)-Hillen
Meyer-(Gervais/Kohn)
this way they go into June and July with a little clearer picture of what they will need in the future (draft) and RIGHT NOW. Watching guys who aren’t going to be here play meaningless games doesn’t buy you anything going forward.
I’m not a GM, nor do I pretend to be one (haven’t even stayed at a Holiday Inn express recently)
you know you’re implying that GM’s are smart with that statement don’t you?
Watching guys who aren’t going to be here play meaningless games doesn’t buy you anything going forward.
so long as you dont give a kid 10 games and kill a year of contract i’m with ya
why isn't #16 hanging in the rafters?
you know you’re implying that GM’s are smart with that statement don’t you?
This point can’t be overemphasized enough. We should probably create tiers of GM intelligence. Because as much as we say “This guy is worth an X,” a player’s trade value TOTALLY depends on whether its Waddell doing the buying or McPhee.
Agreed with everything here, but for clarification, the 10-game thing only burns a year if the kid hasn’t played in the pros yet. (So bringing up some Bridgeport kids wouldn’t risk that.)
so long as you dont give a kid 10 games and kill a year of contract i’m with ya
Lighthouse Hockey: Under contract through 2021, knees and hips be damned.
while it’s attractive to send some of those men down to the tigers JP, I’m not sure we can. BC, Dom and perhaps Hans or Webby might be able to comment on this further, but we’re awfully close to the Salary floor, I don’t know how much lower we can go with swapping NHL contracts with AHL level deals. Stupid floor, it can really make a team stagnate.
i got 99 problems, but Streit gettin' hurt in the Olympics aint one!
Huh, good point. We mop the floor with the likes of Sim’s salary, as it were.
Lighthouse Hockey: Under contract through 2021, knees and hips be damned.
Who's on floor watch?
What is the penalty for a payroll limbo?
My bigger concerns would be waiver regs on vets… and team waiver restrictions. I haven’t had red meat in a while or I’d take the CBA to the reading room with me.
I would look, but I know opening the CBA means I won’t turn up in an hour, and today is too important.
Lighthouse Hockey: Under contract through 2021, knees and hips be damned.
Not a problem...
It was just a release of nervous energy anyway. That’ll never happen, and in reality I don’t think I’d want it to.
Sutton
To the Senators, Per Darren Dreger. I will immediately post when I know more.
Shit.
i got 99 problems, but Streit gettin' hurt in the Olympics aint one!
Damn! I like dealing with Murray…my hopes are high.
Lighthouse Hockey: Under contract through 2021, knees and hips be damned.
For the second year, we pick up a San Jose pick. Again, from the Senators.
What the fuck?
Ottawa’s SJ 2nd Rder to NYI for Andy Sutton
i got 99 problems, but Streit gettin' hurt in the Olympics aint one!
It’s a tradition, apparently.
Lighthouse Hockey: Under contract through 2021, knees and hips be damned.
IOU
Wow.. Botta reported that Snow was “holding out”… I find it hard to believe that he was holding out for a late second rounder. jeez…that’s disappointing. I guess the Bretheren was going to toss him out of the poker game if he didn’t make up for stealing the first rounder last year.
Rather have Andy fo rht enext 20 than what is essentially a 3rd round pick.
Best case scenario...
He gets paired with Campoli and he’ll be back in July.
Only report is “draft pickl”, I wonder if Snowy stole another first rounder. That would be too funny.
Sutton thread
Added an on-going Sutton trade thread here… (for my own selfish/organizational purposes more than anything — continue chatting where you see fit. The rules are easy-going here.)
Lighthouse Hockey: Under contract through 2021, knees and hips be damned.

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