Islanders mini-streaks: The thin line between win and loss
Some afternoon links, followed by a theory about the Islanders since the Olympic break:
- Greenberg's column on Scott Gomez dinging his former team, on a night Sean Avery took a five-minute slash at his leg (shock!) ... here's Globe & Mail coverage of that game, plus coverage of Tavares' big night. The Province on the Isles' approach here. ... Isles blog View from Section 317 was there.
- In goalie news: Towering Mikko Koskinen is back and will play in Utah.
- Chris Botta's post on Blake Comeau taking nutrition advice from Freddy Meyer -- and man, Meyer has played like a beast lately -- also includes the latest Town of Hempstead letter to residents.
- Interesting couple of posts from Flames bloggers on Brent Sutter as coach (and by extension, his brother as GM). Before Ted Nolan was hired, I was one of those dreaming of a faux-storybook Sutter return. Sometimes I wonder if we lucked out.
- If you like MLS, SBN launched a site to cover New York's team, the excellently named Once A Metro.
After the Olympic break, the Islanders stole a win from Chicago (with a bit of goaltending and a bit of luck), then promptly sandwiched a three-game regulation losing streak and a three-game winning streak around a shootout loss. As much as we talk about the clear difference in talent -- or at least the stage of talent development -- between the Islanders and many opponents, the two streaks illustrate the adjustments that can leave you on either side of the thin line between winning and losing.
After the jump, a quick look back at the last seven games, which when taken in sum show a team capable of stealing points from anyone -- as long as all 19 players are firing.
Special Teams
The easiest difference on the stat sheet is special teams. I whined about those at what now looks like the perfect time -- right before the Islanders went on a run of scoring a powerplay goal in four consecutive games and conceding zero by opponents in the last three. But I know any game could have gone differently with a slight change in luck: Dwayne Roloson could have missed a crucial PK save last night, and maybe he saves that deflection off Mark Streit's stick on the PK in Philadelphia. This stuff can change in a blink.
That said, powerplay goals conceded were the difference in the one-goal losses to the Flyers and Bruins, while keeping clean sheets on the PK were the difference in the wins over the Devils and the Canucks. Though it's a short sample, the adjustments the coaches made appear to have helped. Including the shootout loss to St. Louis (PK: 5 for 6), the Islanders have allowed one PP goal on their last 19 kills. And of course, shorthanded goals by Sean Bergenheim and Richard Park against New Jersey and Toronto were huge turning points.
As were, against Vancouver, the kind of aggressive play that draws early penalties. Canucks coach Alain Vigneault:
"We knew this team was playing real well," he said. "They had won their last two games by being what you saw tonight, being really aggressive on the forecheck, with their Ds involved in the play. I think what put us on our heels a bit were the penalties that we took in the first period. You're fighting a two-goal deficit and then you are fighting a three-goal deficit."
Effort and Execution Make Luck
The 6-3 loss to Atlanta was awful, but it was awful thanks to some very specific moments. Scott Gordon, ticked after the loss, even pointed out (and in this instance, I don't think he was practicing Coaching PR) that the Islanders' energy was there, they just made dumb mistakes. And they were dumb mistakes -- the kind so huge they almost automatically result in goals against.
You can play a "good effort" and system game for 60 minutes and ensure the outcome is the result of a coin flip or perhaps an excellent individual play. But if you make the specific mistakes (bad line change, blown coverage, bad turnover) the Isles made against Atlanta, you've taken the coin flip out of the equation. Your margin of error is gone. You end up with a three-goal loss.
Boston and Philadelphia were both better efforts with fewer mistakes, but against the Bruins came one poor turnover (and one incredibly bad bounce) and a failure to convert on a five-minute powerplay; against the Flyers came at least one bad penalty, perhaps two, that put a faltering PK unit on the ice for the winning goal. Either of those games could have swung with some better luck, but when your margin is so thin luck doesn't often come to the rescue.
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So what changed in the shootout loss against St. Louis and the three wins over New Jersey, Toronto and Vancouver?
An escalated urgency throughout the lineup, mixed with smart hockey from top to bottom. These games have lacked the backbreaking mistake, and they've added a level of defensive determination and discipline that wasn't fully there the prior three games: There's John Tavares sliding to block a first-period shot last night; there's Richard Park sliding behind Roloson just in case; there's every forward determined to battle for the puck rather than chase it in the defensive zone; there's Freddy Meyer being a physical beast in all three zones. The discipline with the lead came in the form of not panicking in the defensive zone, not merely dumping the puck out at every opportunity, but actually gaining the neutral zone when possible and applying pressure on the trailing opponent when the opening was there.
This team isn't overly skilled, and their existing skill isn't ripe yet -- we know that. So wins can only come not via a three-minute flash of Sedin-like all-world skill but via goaltending like Roloson's and 60 minutes of unending effort applied to smart hockey. It's not a method that can get an understocked and underdeveloped team to win consistently over a full season -- in fact, it leads to a heartbreaking 11 one-goal regulation losses and nine more via OT or shootout. But it is a method that, when everything is clicking and even five posts against Vancouver doesn't deter you, can produce little spurts of joy like what we've seen since last weekend.
Momentarily at least, we're naturally going to get giddy after games like last night and cry in our beer after games like Atlanta. But for me the bigger picture for the rest of the season is to see how much, how often, they can bring 60 minutes like that while doing all the little things that increase your chance of success. That's what could tell me more about the players we have.
Personally I conceded the playoff chances with that final loss before the Olympics. But that's a fan looking at the odds. From the players, I want exactly what Roloson described:
"It's about being professional and realizing it's not over yet," Roloson said. "We're still in a position we can make the playoffs and we believe we can. Is it a good chance, a 99 percent chance? No, but mathematically we're able."
Oh, and a heretofore unseen spread of scoring doesn't hurt:
Islanders Goal Scorers Since the Olympics
| Scorer | Goals |
| Moulson | 4 |
| Comeau | 3 |
| Tavares | 3 |
| Streit | 2 |
| Jackman | 2 |
| Park | 2 |
| Meyer | 2 |
| Sim | 2 |
| Bailey | 1 |
| Bergenheim | 1 |
| Okposo | 1 |
| Schremp | 1 |
| Reese | 1 |
| Nielsen | 1 |
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If you like MLS, SBN launched a site to cover New York’s team, the excellently named Once A Metro.
Mighty fucking Metro!
On the Isles, it’s nice to see them realize good special teams + balanced team effort = wins. And urgency is the thing this team has shown that a certain team in Manhattan has been heavily criticized for not having (When Chris Drury bitches to the press you know you’re not doing something right). Make the playoffs or not, I feel a whole lot more confident in the direction this team is going now than this time last year.
On a not too distant future point, of all the recent seasons to be not tanking and not in the playoffs in terms of the Draft this is probably the best. This draft is deep, especially if BC’s boy Nino is currently 11th on north American skaters and someone like Mikael Granlund whose putting up about a point per game in the SM-Liiga as a 17 year old isn’t even considered a top 10 pick, you know this is a deep draft.
We're doomed. Doomed!
I am hardly a draft wonk, but it is incredible how deep this draft sounds. Reason to get excited about everyone up into the teens.
I’m not going to throw a top three pick out of bed, but it is comforting to hear very good players will be available should the Islanders do some late-season winning. And ultimately, we already have three top-10 picks (and will surely add a fourth): At some point, you have to go out and find your Moulsons and Hamonics, too.
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I can rest easier
at night, with my Blake Comeau autographed Kelowna Rockets card (lol) knowing the team is pointed the right way. As Hans realizes, the urgency and balance is there. Lose a guy for a game or more (KO, Hunter, Weight, etc.), someone else picks up the slack. It’s like the team is cauterizing all the wounds we’ve suffered all season, and we’re starting to really pull it together.
I say that often enough, but last night the Islanders played a legitimate cup contender (I feel) in Vancouver, with an excellent netminder, and pasted them. Okposo was out of the lineup, what do we do!?, but JT picked his game up and had himself a great night. That’s in excess of the points he put up, but the effort that you could see from him, and from all the players. We played hard, physical and smart, and drew them into penalty situations. These small things are what can offset a comparative size and perhaps skill advantage and level out the ice in our favor.
Comeau, Comeau, Comeauuu and do the locomotion with me.
Well said. And I agree they ‘Nucks are a serious Cup contender, which is why I’m not bothered by relying on Roloson and tight defense last night: I mean, we know the Canucks should outplay the Isles, so the way the Isles played was exactly what they need to do to beat better teams.
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P.S. Meyer broke Samuelsson
Samuelsson is getting an MRI, and the Canucks have signed Schroeder to his entry-level deal. Time to call my Gophers buddy and taunt him.
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Ness might not be far behind Schroeder. I have a feeling after the disastrous season the Gophers had there might be an exodus.
We're doomed. Doomed!
by David Hanssen on Mar 17, 2010 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions
I wonder. What a rough season — and closing with that Frattin hit. I’d sure feel better if Ness stayed, but who knows.
Talked to my friend, taunted him. His response: “Oh it’s fine. All I ask is two years. Schroeder did his time.” He’s still pissed at Erik Johnson for leaving after one, and can’t decide if the golfcart knee injury was karma for early departure or evidence that it was smart to get your money before an injury like that.
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When I was in St. Paul 3 weeks ago they were already talking about buying out Lucia, so I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s gone. If he leaves, I think it would be open season. The rumblings I heard about Ness was he can’t wait to jump to the pros and since he’ll be 20 in May he would be eligible to play for Bridgeport next year. I wouldn’t be surprised if he went pro, but I wouldn’t if he stayed either.
We're doomed. Doomed!
by David Hanssen on Mar 17, 2010 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Mmmm, that sounds better. Hamonic and Ness in B-port next year, with De Haan waiting to jump from juniors?
Regarding doing too much: I’ve noticed that the few times I watched, though I’ve been told it was just part of the general mess engulfing the program. Sounds like a tough situation: high expectations mixed with a pipeline of good talent that constantly jumps to the pros early.
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A friend of mine got me a Gopher sweatshirt once she found out I was moving out there… I don’t know whether I should root for them. I will be living a couple blocks away from campus, but they’re the Gophers. It makes me feel dirty, kind of like cheering for Drury and Callahan during the Olympics.
We're doomed. Doomed!
by David Hanssen on Mar 17, 2010 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m betting they pull you in. The atmosphere is pretty cool, I must say. I have no NCAA allegiance, so I get sucked in when my Gopher friend demands company to watch a game on TV.
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Schroeder isn’t hthe only NCAA prospect to sign today. Two free agents inked deals, Anaheim signs 6’3" defenseman Jake Newton of Northeastern to a 3 year NHL level deal and Philly signs Lowell’s Ben Holmstrom to an AHL deal.
We're doomed. Doomed!
by David Hanssen on Mar 17, 2010 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Has Hodgson even played this year?
We're doomed. Doomed!
by David Hanssen on Mar 17, 2010 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions
12 games for Brampton
8-12-20, +6—all in February. Bad luck for him not to have established himself as a starter with the Canucks this year due to injury. Obviously he will have Schroeder and Wellwood to compete with in September for third line C.
Just a thought
cause I love just throwing them out there. Maybe the loss of MacD and Sutton gave the forwards a bit of a wake up call that they are going to have to help in the Defensive zone.
I love Reese’s goal, too often the Isles are looking for that perfect shot or play instead of just throwing the puck on the net.
I don’t follow Soccer much, but if one thing made me sick to my stomach, it was the changing of the NYC team from the MetroStars to NY RedBull. One of the worst sports names ever in the general area around the city. Interesting tidbit, my local soccer team which only lasted 2 years, The Staten Island Vipers, defeated the MetroStars in the Semis of a cup tournament one year. That was the 2nd and last year of existence for the Vipers, the Island refused to build them a place that they could actually play, but built a Triple A stadium for a Single A team (Staten Island Yankees) later on the same year. Meanwhile the Vipers moved, changed names and for a few years were one of the elite teams in their level of play. The SI Yankees suck.
I believe in 15-0-0, Lets do these Playoffs!
The SI Yankees suck.
Go Cyclones! I am a Metro for life, and I will support the team no matter what their name is.
We're doomed. Doomed!
by David Hanssen on Mar 17, 2010 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m a Mets fan so I’m probably biased against the SI Yanks, but the Stadium is a huge joke. It was overpriced and pointless. There’s almost never any events but baseball, and the baseball season is only 26 games or so. Both my parents drive for the MTA on Staten Island and have driven the route to St George and the only time its packed is for the Cyclones games.
The name change to me is like the Islanders changing their Jerseys. I still cheer for them, but I’m annoyed.
I believe in 15-0-0, Lets do these Playoffs!
I'm absolutely SHOCKED
that the Yankees overpaid for an unnecessarily lavish stadium.
Perhaps today IS a good day to die.
- Klingon proverb
by fightoffyourdemons on Mar 17, 2010 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions
I think it might be because yahoo changed the way they do open id, so its easier for the spambots to work their way in.
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Interesting
That’s a better clue than I’ve got! Though I see a lot of these accounts are hitting multiple sites.
I wish the messages were at least funny.
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Least Valuable NHL'ers...
Thompson – Park – Witt in that order from least to less least.
I feel bad for Park. Thompson and Witt not too much.
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Yowza, Jack Johnson as the worst 5-5 player is surprising as is Braydon Coburn being on the list.
We're doomed. Doomed!
by David Hanssen on Mar 17, 2010 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions
It seems like Johnson is a surprisingly poor decision-maker. Or untrained. Or something. All that talent but he wanders … fun to see RudyKelly at Battle of California rant about it from time to time.
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Certainly if his criticisms of JJ’s play had merit (I think they did), he went about it the wrong way — and worse, backtracked and claimed his quotes weren’t for attribution, blaming it on the writer.
Don’t know why he’d want to insult and tick off his own player, but I bet it was his love of gab getting in the way of reason.
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Don’t know why he’d want to insult and tick off his own player
Cause he’s an idiot. Just ask Nat Coulson.
Haha, thanks for pulling that up. I saw it and wasn’t sure how to bring it up; was sort of glad we don’t have to worry about two of ’em anymore (and Park has been better lately).
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I think sometimes Park’s problems are just compounded by those around him. Tough fit. But he has certainly done better of late, might just be a confidence thing. This was a guy who was on the 2005 Hockey World Championship U.S. team … haha. There’s something there, has too much heart to be THAT bad I feel.
Comeau, Comeau, Comeauuu and do the locomotion with me.
I agree, I think he’s literally good — or was good, certainly. Just a question of whether his tough season was due to age/injury/decline or to particularly rough teammates (or both).
The way he’s played since the break, I think he might still have all the tools that made him such a nice utility piece to have.
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wow, i just looked, only 7 isles have more ice time than him this year…from 7 up to 1 its…
sutton moulson hillen tavares gervais okposo streit
4 D-men… now i know the GP vary a lot, but i hate what these #’s show
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Good point
All those SH minutes Park gets. I’ve wanted to look at that more closely — does Gordon give Park more PK minutes out of necessity — i.e. because he’s on the 4th line and so less likely to have just been used when a penalty is called? And is the workload hurting his effectiveness (as his PK numbers are not good)?
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it could just be he wants him and franz taking as many D-zone F/O’s as possible being the two best on the team, so park is out there more, looking to change after taking a draw, getting trapped and plunking up a minus or ppg against ??? idk
hadn’t thought about the extra time hurting his effectiveness much, but you may be on to something
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Aye, the faceoffs too, good point. And I think once he takes the faceoff, he stays out there even if he wins it and gets a clear.
This talk makes me miss Sillinger.
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