In praise of Rob Schremp Hockey, out for the season
by Dominik on Mar 10, 2010 10:37 PM EST
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Oh Rob Schremp Hockey, say it ain't so.
I'm so sorry that just as you showed yourself to be a worthy Islander, you caught the indoctrination curse so many Islanders must accept: Whether it's still-juniors Calvin De Haan (shoulder) and Travis Hamonic (shoulder), towering AHL goalie prospect Mikko Koskinen (hip), or just-established NHLers Andrew MacDonald (broken foot), or now you (knee), Islanders fans know if there's a reason to get excited about you, then a long-term injury cannot be far behind.
When Garth Snow took the near-no-brainer step to scoop you up off waivers, I was not your biggest doubter, but I do confess what all those meany Oilers pundits said about you gave me pause. So did the YouTube hype (Admittedly, the word "dangle" is anathema to me.). So did the (pre-Islanders) third-person reference to "Rob Schremp hockey," which, again, I confess I secretly loved in a ready-made bloggy nickname kind of way.
Yet you showed Islanders fans you have a place in this league. You did and said all the right things, you went through the wing experiment without complaint, you accepted your chances at center with often subpar linemates, and you used your creativity to provide offense, slicing passes, and general hope when many of your teammates could think of no more interesting options than north, south and a pile of dust.
Your first NHL goal was a smart but funny bounce with a hilarious celebration worthy of the name Rob Schremp Hockey. Your third NHL goal was instantly YouTube-worthy -- and in a totally relevant and not show-offy way! It was like karma was finally on your side! (Except the whole "promising young Islander part," which we should have seen coming). You started off slow, but had 20 points in your final 26 games, excluding the four measly shifts you had in Philadelphia before the Islanders Curse struck you down.
(I don't really know how you hurt your meniscus the other night. The Versus broadcast didn't seem to replay it (unless I missed it), and this is the NHL -- so why would they be specific about how an injury happened? We're just lucky to find out the reason you're gone for the season is more than "day-to-day, body injury.")
And now what do you get for seizing your first real shot in the NHL? The Islanders injury curse, of course. Some say we're still paying karma points for an undocumented Faustian deal on those first four Cups. Others hope we're paying advance karma points for the next Cup, whenever it arrives. Whatever the case, it's a crying shame you've been robbed of a nice finish just as you were becoming a steady Isle.
But you entertained us, yes you did. So we'll be waiting for more once you get back from this standard Islanders rite of passage. See you in China.
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Garth Snow
“I’ll bet you guys one Rob Schremp meniscus that my crazy 8-15 playoff play-in idea will go over well in the hockey community!”
Very tough injury, hope he comes back strong. Time for Martin or Joensuu?
Comeau, Comeau, Comeauuu and do the locomotion with me.
And … Bailey back to center? Or do we get the Tavares-Nielsen-Park-Weight experience? Or do they reach for a Bridgeport natural center?
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Bailey
I do not think they will put Bailey back at center this year. He has played really well at wing, so why mess with it. Next year, though, he will be a center again.
I believe that long term Tavares should be a winger. Just my personal opinion. Snipers are better wingers than centers in the NHL.
I could buy that, not messing with Bailey’s success now.
With Tavares, I generally agree, but there are exceptions. Definitely still an open question on that front. Before this season, I sure didn’t expect it to be Bailey on the wing while Tavares was at center.
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what happens to JT and Bailey probably depends a lot on who we draft
We will almost certainly have at least a top three pick. If we lose to the Blues and Toronto wins and they beat us on Saturday, Toronto will be only two points behind us. If we draft Hall, the logical thing to do would be to make Josh second line C between Hall and hopefully Petrov. The same if we trade down for Nino or Kabanov. If we pick Seguin, then he would center JT and Kyle and Moulson would become 2nd line LW.
i like bailey on the wing more than i do JT on the wing, as a rookie, JT has a respectable FO% of 47%
bailey was 41% as a rook and only up to 42.5% this year…
with that said, i am not counting moulson or schremp part of next year until we ink them, because this team gives me no confidence right now that they will in match any reasonable offers they may receive
NY Islanders Hockey: Where MRI's are addictive
actually no way at all they let Moulson go
First, he is the leading scorer and the first to break the 20 goal plateau in several years.
Second, he is JT’s friend. The last thing this franchise wants is for JT to pull a Kessel on them because they didn’t do right by his friend.
wait what?
Okay, I realize there might be some reasons to worry about Snow and the team. But I highly doubt the Islanders wouldn’t match any of the young core players unless the offer was just insane.
The Lemieux Curse lives on, will the Islanders reach 2013?
no matter how i type this it sounds confrontational, but...
in what way? empty points? sure he’s racking them up, 41 goals, all of 3 are game winners on a NON-PLAYOFF team…
i’m not trying to knock SS but i’d be fine with a goals # set like sedin, who looks clutch with 7 game winners out of 17 on a PLAYOFF team
NY Islanders Hockey: Where MRI's are addictive
Wow, I have almost no idea how to respond to this.
Yes, I’d be thrilled with 41 “empty” goals from JT. (Not necessarily 41 empty net goals, I guess).
As for the clutch point — and no matter how I type this it will sound confrontational — but there is pretty much no such thing as “clutchness” in professional sports. It’s a figment of the imagination.
the point for me is that it’s about winning, not racking up individual #’s
but feel free to take a swing at the kid if he doesn’t put up 50 goals and 90+ points
no confrontation is right, something either exists, or it doesn’t, it doesn’t ‘pretty much’ not exist
NY Islanders Hockey: Where MRI's are addictive
I think the larger point
is that the team, as currently constituted, needs big time scoring from JT to win consistently. That’s one reason they need another big time forward in this draft.
Or do they reach for a Bridgeport natural center?
There’s slim pickings at center down on the farm. Reich maybe? Marcinko, Haskins, Haley and DiBo are all a bit too green for NHL duty. Would they give Trevor Smith another shot to prove he can play in the big leagues?
While we’re on the farm, it seems Tony Romano has been traded to the Toledo Walleye of the ECHL after getting demoted (again) from Bridgeport. I don’t know what this means in terms of his place in the organization (Such as whether he is still in it).
Blackmail is such an ugly word. I prefer extortion. The X makes it sounds cool.
by David Hanssen on Mar 11, 2010 4:28 PM EST up reply actions
Would they give Trevor Smith another shot to prove he can play in the big leagues?
I was wondering. There’s nothing on the farm that looks ready made, but sometimes in this situation a team that’s already out of it says, “Here’s your final shot. Run with it.”
I also have no idea how much they’re worried about screwing up B-port’s playoff push.
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I would think that they are somewhat worried about it, otherwise they wouldn’t have put Bailey on the Playoff roster.
Blackmail is such an ugly word. I prefer extortion. The X makes it sounds cool.
by David Hanssen on Mar 11, 2010 5:48 PM EST up reply actions
Best quote from those two threads.
Well, he’s not officially an Islander until he has a groin injury!
From BCIslesman
I couldn’t believe that the picking up of Schremp caused so much hoo-haa. I mean former first rounders have to have some talent, and it was obvious Edmonton never really gave him much of a chance.
Please NBC, Fire Milbury, Hire Roenick Full time!!!
Dammit, if only BC had been right on that one. (Or did he get a groin injury early on? I could have easily forgotten.)
As far as the hoo-haa (man I love that word), I guess part was the Oilers daft record and part was general fear of a Rangers-esque bust. But totally, that was my thought at the time: First-round talent, for this team? Sign me up.
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don't remember saying that
but OK. I was among those reluctant to accept Schremp. I mean he is a self-confessed Ranger fan!
Poll choices:
Kicked a Rangers fan.
Shrugged. Islanders injury? What’s today’s weather?
Jumped into Mark Streit’s arms for a warm Swiss hug.
Scanned the Oilers prospect list to see who we get next year.
Ripped the SCHREMP plate off my GUERIN jersey and cried.
I love this poll. I voted three, but Id vote for them all if I could lol. Thank you for getting me to smile regarding something that is a real downer to see take place.
Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)
great poll
I voted “kicked a Rangers fan,” but to be fair, that’s how I react to any news. Market’s down again? Another snowstorm? We’re having ice cream after dinner? Kick a Rangers fan. I really want to find a plush Rangers fan that I can give to my dog as a chew toy, for the giggles.
Of course I'm an expert, I've seen Slap Shot eleven times!
by mikb on Mar 11, 2010 11:49 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I really want to find a plush Rangers fan that I can give to my dog as a chew toy, for the giggles.
God I’m ticked I never thought of that. We could make hundreds!
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More than the Pierre McGuire VooDoo dolls?
Blackmail is such an ugly word. I prefer extortion. The X makes it sounds cool.
by David Hanssen on Mar 11, 2010 4:29 PM EST up reply actions
Impossible. Although dog toys are so poorly made, I’m pretty sure my house could run through a few Rangers fans a week.
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There is the "rec"
Click “actions” on a comment, then click “Rec.” Enough “recs” turns the comment green, so it’s easy to find.
(And the next upgrade on SBN is supposed to include making the “Rec” button easier to find.)
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Poll Dancing
My immediate reaction was 6. Other (multiple)
1. Started developing an Islander Blog sponsored by WebMD
2. Looked into opening up a holistic healing house for hockey hopefuls.
3. Tuned in the Devils game… “okay, it’s been long enough, let’s see what it’s like to root for a team that’s not cursed”
4. Thought, “Good lord… you’re a freakin jinx”… Right after I bought my Tiki jersey he announced his retirement and started stabbing his teammates in the back(it’s currently scattered ashes). Three days after opening night 2009… Jose Reyes. I was scanning the NHL shop with my daughter the other night to buy us some Isle goodies for this Sunday’s game… She was going to get an Okposo, and I put together a Schremp…(because I wanted to wait until next year to get a Martin)… We decided to wait to get then at the Coliseum… but I guess that doesn’t matter. Sorry Robbie.
Jesus would probably turn the other cheek too… but in a league where everybody walks on water I bet you couldn’t get a third rounder for the lord at the deadline.
Out for the season not out for the “regular” season…. a slip of truth by the Islanders?
Meniscus tears are quite common sports injuries (happen when your knee is twisted while in a bent position) usually corrected with surgery with a return to normal activity within 2-3 months (I’ve had this surgery twice). Hopefully this isn’t severe or unusual outcome (ie Ricky DP)
If only scoring goals was addictive. :(
Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)
by TheMetalChick on Mar 11, 2010 11:09 AM EST up reply actions
so the Meniscus is the injury
I couldnt watch th egame on VS so I didn’t know exactly what happened, and did not see anything specific on the injury.
If that is it, then he may not be done for the season. I tore mine, but I was a truck driver and had to unload construction materials at the time and was able to work through it. I didn’t miss any work. I then went through I police academy only 4 months later without having any surgery or rehab.
If Guttenberg can do it...
Let’s assume that Snow, Schremp, and Schremp’s agent might be risking more by damaging the injury further than you were. Let’s hope he shuts it down… I’d bet the injury already cost him half a million dollars because of lack of competition at the bargaining table.
BTW, I’ve seen the movies… going through the Police Acadamy doesn’t look that hard.
(Just Kidding)
Jesus would probably turn the other cheek too… but in a league where everybody walks on water I bet you couldn’t get a third rounder for the lord at the deadline.
I’d bet the injury already cost him half a million dollars
my fear is that Garth uses this as an excuse to lowball him, then we watch him walk away to after Garth refuses to match the fair qualifying offer he’ll be getting from another team, saying that the injury scared them and it was smarter to not commit at that point
NY Islanders Hockey: Where MRI's are addictive
I think Snow has to make a qualifying offer of just 10% more than his 2009-10 salary to retain his restricted negotiation rights. THAT IS the lowball. If there is no other offer then Snow gets him for ~$800K. You’d have to believe that a former first rounder that has had success in his first opportunity with varying levels of line help might get scooped up for a lot more in the deminished talent pond.
Jesus would probably turn the other cheek too… but in a league where everybody walks on water I bet you couldn’t get a third rounder for the lord at the deadline.
but do the isles have the chance to match the offers he gets?
NY Islanders Hockey: Where MRI's are addictive
Is that a procedural question or a how-cheap-are-they question? If procedural, then yes they can match.
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Meniscus update
Strang gave an update today: Said it had bothered him for a while, no specific incident in Philly, but he felt a much sharper pain and a pop that told him he didn’t pack enough holy water to fend off the curse.
Lighthouse Hockey: Under contract through 2021, knees and hips be damned.
might be time to delete that ‘hips and knees be damned’ Dom, it’s like a self fulfilling prophecy now
NY Islanders Hockey: Where MRI's are addictive
You aren't kidding
Was thinking about that yesterday. I swear I had an idea that escaped me like a Tavares shot off the post.
Lighthouse Hockey: Under contract through 2021, knees and hips be damned.
But hey! You’re the one with MRI’s in the sig!
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Just thought of this
Anyone else realize that since we got Schremp off waivers, The Oilers had to pay half his salary for this year? Anytime we can stick it to a team worse then ours, I smile.
The Lemieux Curse lives on, will the Islanders reach 2013?
Only for recall waivers
No, the Isles had to pay it (as well as some absurdly nominal waiver fee). That half salary thing is only for when the player is on recall waivers.
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