NHL Trade Deadline: Waiting on Islanders dominoes...and DiPietro's knee
by Dominik on Mar 1, 2010 12:51 PM EST
in Roster Manoeuvres in the Dark
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PrintIn that case I'll go underground / Get some heavy rest /
Never have to worry / About what is worst and what is best / ...Oh, Domino
--Van Morrison, "Domino"
At some point in the next heavily caffeinated 50 hours the proverbial dominoes will fall, and a bunch of not-very-sexy but still-possibly-helpful unrestricted free agents-to-be will either re-sign with their current teams or be shipped to new ones for something bearing a strong resemblance to a 2nd- or 3rd- or 4th-round pick. One or two, if someone's lucky and someone's drinking, will even fetch a 1st. Every trade fetches a Girl Scout cookie.
(I associate the NHL Trade Deadline with Girl Scout cookies, because they usually arrive at the same time of year, and I spend the days mowing through box after box while clicking "refresh" to see just who, oh who, has acquired this year's Mike Sillinger.)
This meat market should involve the Islanders as much as it involves anyone else. Six teams by one count are in the mode where they don't have to think twice about selling expiring contracts. If the return for Carolina's Joe Corvo is "expected to be high," then whatever high passive voice is doing that kind of expecting might also expect a "high" return for our own Andy Sutton.
Meanwhile, the summer-hatched plan of fetching something useful for Martin Biron or, if someone's making a pricier run at "proven goalie" insurance, Dwayne Roloson, could as always be at the mercy of Rick DiPietro's latest visit to the doctor, this time for swelling in the knee. [Update via Botta: "Precautionary," says Rick -- nothing to be ... alarmed about. Update 2: Out "indefinitely," says the team -- for the sake of caution. Like sands in the hourglass...]
Is there a Jeff Tambellini escape pod or a Doug Weight swan song in the cards? Probably not, but you never know. This is the NHL trade deadline. The Girl Scout cookies do not stand a chance.
The Plan at This Here Site
As of this posting, the fore-linked Matt Stajan has re-signed in Calgary for a reported four years at $3.5 million (!) per, while former Flame Jordan Leopold has just found a new role with the defending Stanley Cup champions in return for a 2nd-round pick to Florida. Any further relevant but not groundbreaking updates will be added as they emerge.
But this is where you can have a lot of fun with this, dear reader: When you see new bits, drop them in comments of this post or the day's general post. Something massive? Post a FanShot link -- or if you have a deeper theory, put it in a FanPost. For quick takes of what other teams' fans think, you can check SBN's NHL Trade Deadline hub:
I'll add general daily posts for Tuesday and Wednesday's (in)activity, as well as separate posts for whatever moves the Islanders make. Maybe it will be a let down ("Woo, Aaron Ward was traded"), but the chaos usually delivers some sort of fun. So have at it and enjoy the circus.
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P.S. Steve Ott
I forgot to mention in the original post that Steve Ott was extended in Dallas, so he’s off the market.
Lighthouse Hockey: Under contract through 2021, knees and hips be damned.
Seeing how Philly really doesn’t care about cap space could Rollie and Sutton both go to them? At first I thought that it was almost impossible. However, if they are desparate enough, I could see them pulling the trigger on some prospects/draft picks for those two.
U-S-A! U-S-A! U-S-A!
i’d be down with that, except i think washington’s pick is going to be like #25th or later overall… hoping for a pick in the 18-20 range for sutt’s but 7 picks or so isn’t a dealbreaker when it still brings in a decent prospect
why isn't #16 hanging in the rafters?
My ideal would be the Caps first rounder and Carlson
that would make it easier to use the first pick for a forward…which I hope will be Nino.
McPhee is pretty dead set against shipping young guys and picks for short-term gain.
Lighthouse Hockey: Under contract through 2021, knees and hips be damned.
that maybe
but if he sees a move that might put the Caps over the top to get the Cup, he might make an exception.
True, but I don’t think what the Isles have fits that definition, and listening to him talk, I don’t think McPhee believes there is a “put us over the top” type of acquisition out there. Of course he’s a GM, so he could be blowing smoke — but his recent history is more conservative.
Lighthouse Hockey: Under contract through 2021, knees and hips be damned.
hmmm dunno
You add a big physical defenseman who can play offense and defense and a goalie who has shown he can be a big game goalie at the highest level more than once….they just MIGHT shore up the Cap D enough to put them over the top. Not saying it will happen, just a possibility.
Seeing how Philly is in the market for both of them rather than an individual I was thinking that there is a possibility that we could increase the stakes for the package. Washington seems to be more than set in the goalie department and would only require Sutton who is a FA this summer so that can only bring in so much. However, if you put Rollie who is under contract for the following year and Sutton together to a team that has a desparate need to make a statement with their cross-town rival (not that Washington doesn’t seek revenge on Pitt) I believe you can get more out of the deal. Perhaps Kevin Marshall and a 1st rounder? That might be high but I could see Philly doing it in desperation.
U-S-A! U-S-A! U-S-A!
Philly is squeezed
It would take some kind of voodoo, or sending away one of their big salaries.
Lighthouse Hockey: Under contract through 2021, knees and hips be damned.
I thought that too but they could sink a salary into the Phantoms, correct. It is obvious that they are desparate to sink the Penguins and they know they can’t do it right now…plus they have no regard for the cap as demonstrated in this last draft.
U-S-A! U-S-A! U-S-A!
This is true. Of the teams who might say “Cap? What cap?” I’d put them up there with Toronto as being willing to just bury salaries in the AHL. The Rangers, on the other hand, like to keep their overpaid talent in the NHL come hell or high water.
Lighthouse Hockey: Under contract through 2021, knees and hips be damned.
Cote waived, Emery on IR
On the topic of Philly, they’ve waived Cote and placed Emery on IR. So that’s about $2 million in space potentially freed up.
Lighthouse Hockey: Under contract through 2021, knees and hips be damned.
Kevin Marshall wouldn’t be too bad for the Isles. He is a LOT of what we need right now. It would also address some of the size issues that we have. If Sutton doesn’t come back it doesn’t sting as much. Plus we would get a decent 1st rd pick as opposed to a late round pick. Philly sits in 16th and has a relitively soft schedule for the remainder of the season but I still can’t see them getting into the 9 by the end of the season. That would mean that the Isles would get roughly a 20th overall and possibly a 5th overall. That gives them leverage to go after whoever they like in the 1st round without sacraficing much AND it gives them a young, physical, stay-at-home-styled D man for the future.
Perhaps I’m being a bit too optimistic but that could work.
Another year of watching everyone else in the playoffs. :(
Philly sent their first rounder to the Ducks in the Pronger deal
Better off dealing with a team like Chicago or Washington for a first rounder. Marshall might be OK, but he is only 6’. I’d like us to get someone 6’3" or 6’4" like McIlrath or Johns. Both of those guys have about 20 pounds on Marshall. McIlrath epecially is tough as nails. Get a forward like Nino with the first pick, get a big defenseman with maybe a first rounder obtained at the deadline, use our second rounder for maybe another big defenseman or forward, maybe we trade down for another second rounder or two and get Yasin Cisse who will be ready to step into Hunts’ skates by the time his contract expires, and then use our third round pick on Marshall or Troy Rutkowski of Portland.
All signs point to Emery being gone after this year. Back to the KHL and punching trainers for him. Or to Carolina.
Please NBC, Fire Milbury, Hire Roenick Full time!!!
…or to DiPietro wobbly joint status?
Lighthouse Hockey: Under contract through 2021, knees and hips be damned.
DiP's Knee and Weight
What’s the date that DiP Visited the Doctor? Quality Newsday just puts the Time and not the date on the previews. I wonder if the week off actually hurt him.
I say keep Weight around, I sense that he’s about to retire. Maybe he’ll add a little fire to the Isles for one last push to the playoffs.
Please NBC, Fire Milbury, Hire Roenick Full time!!!
Visit was either Sunday or Monday
Since practice on Sunday was when he went. He did mention that possibility — that the week off might have let the knee get out of practice. They said he was in every practice during the break until today, and went in part because he woke up with a sore knee.
He also credited the trainers for making him get it checked out instead of forcing it.
Lighthouse Hockey: Under contract through 2021, knees and hips be damned.
He also credited the trainers for making him get it checked out instead of forcing it.
lol, I would like to see the trainer who would have told him otherwise. The franchise player and the most expensive player on the team. Hmmm, lets see, do we tell him to shake it off or go and actually get it checked…. tough decision here.
Then again, late 90s Isles probably would have told him to play through it.
Please NBC, Fire Milbury, Hire Roenick Full time!!!
Heh, yes. But I took it as an subtle acknowledgment that he, uh, forced it himself in the past few years without being up front to the team about how much pain/discomfort he had.
Lighthouse Hockey: Under contract through 2021, knees and hips be damned.
I hope this situation with Dipietro doesn’t discourage Snow from pulling the trigger on Biron. The way I see it the season is basically a wash at this point so if we have to call up Lawson or Munroe from Bridgepoint to back up Rollie so be it. Are there any teams that might be interested in both Biron and Sutton?
Back up the VAN
While Yashin is spending Wang’s BLUE MONEY with BROWN EYED GIRLS named NATALIA, Ricky will be CLEANING WINDOWS spending TOO LONG IN EXILE.
This is over $7M to PAY THE DEVIL, AND IT STONED ME that somewhere DOWN THE ROAD JACKIE WILSON SAYS THERE WILL BE DAYS LIKE THIS… but seasons?
I’VE BEEN WORKIN on a plan and it includes a Ricky buy-out. This ENLIGHTENMENT also includes Sim, Weight, Park and Tambellini being REAL REAL GONE.
Next year the CARAVAN will include THE YOUTH OF A 1000 SUMMERS and WARM LOVE for guys like Matt Martin, Jesse Joensuu and Nathan Lawson.
For now, I guess it’s time to cast Sutton INTO THE MYSTIC for GLAD TIDINGS.
Next year you can CALL ME UP IN DREAMLAND and EVERYONE will COME RUNNING to see the ROUGH GOD GO[ES] RIDING!
Oh-ho, I see I’ve awoken a Van Morrison fan…
Lighthouse Hockey: Under contract through 2021, knees and hips be damned.
Oh to sip Jameson from the cup...
If I ever had the chance…
Let’s just say that during the 8-10 mins it took me to put that together direct from the coconut my 16G iPod shuffled through 2 Van songs… just odd timing. But yeah, you could say I’m a fan of the man.
…and it just hit another one… I might need put more Hannah Montana in this playlist.
That’s awesome. I was wondering how long that took.
Lighthouse Hockey: Under contract through 2021, knees and hips be damned.
Ha
I immediately smelled Jameson when I read it, but it definitely wasn’t the Jenna blend.
Lighthouse Hockey: Under contract through 2021, knees and hips be damned.
presumably Mikko will be higher on the depth chart than Lawson
but I am assuming that this is mostly tongue in cheek anyway. A DP buyout is unlikely…esp since he seems to be doing OK.
Hip Deep in Goalies at the infirmary
I think you are correct in the long view. But I’d have to say if they were looking for a 15-20 game backup next year it might be Lawson. One of the remaining guys (Munroe, Poulin, Koskinen) will most likely emerge as an NHL starter above Lawson, But it’s time to see if any of the 9 have the chops to start NHL games, and Lawson, I think, should be the first in line. Mikko will need the 30+ games he missed at the AHL level this year.
Grebeshkov to Nashville for a 2nd-rounder
On the Forecheck. Grebeshkov is an RFA. The initial Oilers fan reaction I have seen is not a happy one, in terms of value returned.
Lighthouse Hockey: Under contract through 2021, knees and hips be damned.
doesn't seem like that bad a return
depending on where that pick falls. I do like Denis G. though. Lotta potential.
So wait, Grebeshkov is worth basically the same as Dominic Moore? My head hurts.
Hating on NBC since 2010
by David Hanssen on Mar 1, 2010 5:59 PM EST up reply actions
From Van Morrison to Johnny Cash
Grebeshkov is gonna be able to sing “I’ve been everywhere” wihtout lying.
There has to be some personality conflicts there, because as an RFA I don’t see that being even close to being a fair deal. A somewhat productive former first rounder (who is compensation restricted) for a dart.
Considering that most D taken in next year’s 2nd round will be 3 years away from being as productive(?) as Denis… I would not be happy if I was an EDM fan.
Do you think EDM will use that pick to trade up? :-)
With Tambellini the Older though, you never know. They had too much money tied up on defense, but I don’t know why that was all they could get. Unless “2nd-round pick” is just this year’s default price for everything.
Why, it’s a new take on the Dollar Store! The NHL Deadline: Where Everything’s a 2nd-Rounder!™
Lighthouse Hockey: Under contract through 2021, knees and hips be damned.
Bridgeport Deal
Greg Moore sent to CBJ for 25 Yo Harvard Alum Dylan Reese. On the outside it might seem like a minor move, but think about it… Why would they be adding a depth defenseman if they didn’t think Kohn would be playing the rest of the season in the NHL. Another move might be coming (Hint: Sutton)
Hating on NBC since 2010
sutton
sutton should be considered immovable. He is by far our most intimidating physical threat plus he’s probably our best d-man, not including the pilon like hillen. We lose Sutton we lose more games
our best defenseman, by far, is Mark Streit
Hillen is one of our most mobile defensemen and is hardly a pilon. You can make an argument for keeping Sutton. It all depends on what is being offered. I am not too worried about winning games this year as this team will almost certainly not make the playoffs. I am more worried about building a champion.
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