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U-S-A! U-S-A! Top of the Olympic table

Except for the rather lopsided Finland-Sweden finale, which literally put me to sleep (the timeslot had a lot to do with that), Sunday's "rivalry day" in Olympic hockey delivered. The Russians beat the Czechs with some outstanding displays from their biggest stars (Ovechkin and Malkin, yes, but also Pavel Datsyuk's defensive acumen and ref-baiting fakery), and the U.S. beat Canada the surest way they know how: Through outstanding goaltending and relentless skating.

Hilariously Martin Brodeur, egged on by the lack of a trapezoid and the fawning media hyping up his puckhandling skills, tried to do too much with the puck and got burned. Cue navel-gazing in Canadian media, the most reactionary of which are all too eager to stoke fan insecurities even though what happened was entirely conceivable in a short tournament with several elite rosters and little preparation: One stacked roster of NHLers beat another even more stacked roster of NHLers with the help of an outstanding goaltender and good special teams. Thrilling, but hardly surprising.

The score was close -- 5-3 with an empty-netter: The only conclusion, apparently, is the apocalypse is near. Oh, and Canada is incapable of developing faster players, apparently. I half expect another melodramatic Gretzky (or Yzerman) "tired of people taking shots at Canadian hockey" speech, followed by a suddenly contrite media lapping it up and saying the speech saved the tournament.

Of course, U.S. media is hardly innocent at the other extreme: On MSNBC's post-game coverage (yes, I just wrote "MSNBC post-game"), the host seriously said, "And we're already hearing biggest Olympic upset since 1980," which tells me either the producers have never watched hockey (Tommy Salo says hello, as do several NHL-heavy Olympic rosters) or they just don't care about reality; it's more important for ratings to blow every match up into something it's not, rather than explain: Deep rosters, short tourney, little preparation time -- it's wide open, speech or no speech. So how about we just enjoy the show?

After the jump, the final single-table Olympic hockey standings, plus a look at the single-elimination bracket as listed by Dirk Hoag at On the Forecheck. Things look nice for top-seed and table-running Team USA, but lone Islander representative Mark Streit's physical Swiss squad may have something to say about that.

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Olympic Hockey Standings


Final 2010 Olympic Hockey Preliminary Round Standings

GP W L OWOL PTGFGAGD
1. USA* 3
3
0
0
0
9
14
5
9
2. Sweden* 3
3
0
0
0
9
9
2
7
3. Russia* 3 2
0
0 1 7
13
6
7
4. Finland 3 2
1
0 0 6
10
4
6
5. Czech Republic
3
2 1 0
0
6
10
7 3
6. Canada 3 1
1
1
0
5
14
7
7
7. Slovakia 3 1
1
1
0
5
9
4
5
8. Switzerland 3 0
1
1
1
3
8
10
-2
9. Belarus 3 1
2
0
0
3
8
12
-4
10. Norway 3 0
2 0
1
1
5
19
-14
11. Germany 3 0 3
0 0
0 3
12
-9
12. Latvia 3 0 3 0
0 0 4 19 -15

(Final preliminary round results. *denotes group winner)



The Olympic Hockey Elimination Bracket

And for a look at who meets whom, I've stolen this handy chart from Dirk at the Predators- and stats-focused SBN site On the Forecheck:

2010 Olympic Mens Hockey Bracket
 Playoff Qualifier 1 Quarter-Final 1
 #8 Switzerland  #1 USA
 #9 Belarus  PQ1 Winner Semi-Final 1
 Playoff Qualifier 2 Quarter-Final 2 QF1 Winner Gold Medal
 #5 Czech Republic
 #4 Finland
QF2 Winner SF1 Winner
 #12 Latvia  PQ2 Winner SF2 Winner
 Playoff Qualifier 3 Quarter-Final 3
 #7 Slovakia  #2 Sweden
Bronze Medal
 #10 Norway  PQ3 Winner Semi-Final 2 SF1 Loser
 Playoff Qualifier 4 Quarter-Final 4 QF3 Winner SF2 Loser
 #6 Canada  #3 Russia
QF4 Winner
 #11 Germany  PQ4 Winner

The U.S. team owes Canadian media an apology for preventing their "dream final" of Russia vs. Canada (although wouldn't your dream final really be against the team who stole the group from you in the preliminary round?). However, assuming Canada gets past Germany, Canada will get it's desired match against Russia after all -- with even bigger stakes: The loser gets no medal at all.

Meanwhile, the other rivals are all split, too: The Czechs and Slovaks, the Czechs and Russia, and Sweden and Finland all are on opposite sides of the bracket, meaning they can only knock each other out if they both make it to ... a dream final.

*  *  *

Any predictions or partisan wishes? The play-in round is Tuesday, followed by all quarterfinal games Wednesday. Semifinals are Friday, with the losers vying for bronze on Saturday and the winners battling for gold on Sunday.

My hardly ground-breaking prediction: Due to the potential humiliation at stake and the ridiculous cultural pressure over what is, after all, just a game, Canada-Russia becomes the quarterfinal of the tournament. Meanwhile, as with Mike Richter in 1996, with Ryan Miller in goal anything is possible.

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We should do this ala March Madness and get all our pics in.

Swiss Vs Belarus – Swiss
Czech Vs Latvia – Czech
Slovakia Vs Norway – Slovakia
Canada Vs Germany – Canada (Although I would like an upset, lol)

US Vs Swiss – US but I think it’ll be a shootout
Finland Vs Czechs – Czechs
Slovakia Vs Sweden – Sweden (toughest one to choose)
Canada Vs Russia – Canada

Us Vs Czechs – US
Sweden Vs Canada – Canada (I want to see the rematch)

Bronze Czechs Vs Sweden – Czechs
Gold US Vs Canada – Canada

I was worried that beating Canada meant that all we did was piss them off in a game no one will remember if Canada wins the Gold. Now with the possibility of Luongo replacing Brodeur, it will be a different game.

"Martin is psychical" - In reference to Matt Martin being called up to the Islanders.

by Mark D on Feb 22, 2010 12:42 PM EST reply actions  

I had that worry, too — though if the U.S. met and fell to Canada in the final, I’d still just be happy they got a medal. Young team on the host’s soil … if Canada gets that far they should be clicking on all cylinders by then.

My instant bracket:
SUI over BRS 4-2
CZR over LTV 5-2
SLV over NOR 3-2
CAN over GER 7-1

Then:
US over SUI (3-2 nailbiter)
FIN over CZR 2-1
SWE over SLV 4-1
RUS over CAN 5-4

…and then after that I’ll just to see how wrong I am.

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by Dominik on Feb 22, 2010 1:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Russia over Canada, without a doubt. Canada will most likely play Luongo. This alone gives the Russians the edge.
  If you go to various websites like I do for reactions, the Canadian one is many. Should not have started Martin. Should’ve had younger guys on the team. Pronger is so fat, he can’t move. And the best of all, We, (Canada) out played the USA and should not see this as an example of how our team plays.
   Canada said their motto this year was “own the podium”. They aren’t close. And their precious hockey team is about to meet the Big Red Machine. If Ovie hits Cindy Crosby like he did Jagr, we will never hear them stop crying.

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by Martys301 on Feb 22, 2010 4:28 PM EST up reply actions  

The (wildly inaccurate) brackets:
Swiss 3-1
Czech 6-0
Slovakia 5-4
Canada 8-0

US 4-1
Czech 4-2
Sweden 5-2
Canada 5-3

by HugoAgogo on Feb 22, 2010 5:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Swiss V Belarus – Swiss
Czeck Vs Latvia – Latvi….ha ha just kidding Czeck
Slovakia V Norway – Slovakia
Canada V Germany – Canada

US v Swiss – US by at least 1 in regulation. (Our D is much better now)
Finland V Czecks – Czeck
Slovakia V Sweden – Sweden
Canada V Russia – Russia (I am so glad I am not a betting man)

US V Czecks – US
Sweden V Russia – Sweden

Bronze – Russia
Silver – Sweden
Gold – USA

A little bias in here but I could see this working.

U-S-A! U-S-A! U-S-A!

by metalcoconut on Feb 22, 2010 5:45 PM EST up reply actions  

My picks

…which are sure to turn out to be terribly wrong

Swiss over Belarus
Czech over Latvia
Slovakia over Norway
Canada over Germany

USA over Swiss
Czech over Finland
Slovakia over Sweden
Canada over Russia

USA over Czech
Canada over Slovakia

USA over Canada
Czech over Slovakia

by andrew430 on Feb 22, 2010 6:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Burning questions…

will henrik ever allow a goal? (in order to win gold he may need to keep that 1.000 SV% intact)
will canada bounce back? (surely vs Germany, but vs RUS???)
will nbc ever cut out of curling to show the start of a hockey game? (probably not)
will the US fizzle or sizzle vs Swizzle – i mean the Swiss? (miller should see to that)

why isn't #16 hanging in the rafters?

by bob l on Feb 22, 2010 12:47 PM EST reply actions  

Will Mark Streit take out an American, and if so how will we feel?
Will Germany score against Canada?

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by Dominik on Feb 22, 2010 1:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Will Germany score against Canada?

haha, loaded question, who’s starting for Canada?

why isn't #16 hanging in the rafters?

by bob l on Feb 22, 2010 1:08 PM EST up reply actions  

And is he allowed to handle the puck?

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by Dominik on Feb 22, 2010 1:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Will Milbury bash Babcock saying you have to go with the Elite Goalie?

"Martin is psychical" - In reference to Matt Martin being called up to the Islanders.

by Mark D on Feb 22, 2010 1:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes! According to Milbury, it was ridiculous to even let Luongo start the first game. Give that man a team to manage!

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by Dominik on Feb 22, 2010 1:44 PM EST up reply actions  

well, playing a b-minus quality game, and getting unlucky bounces makes it look like you shit the bed, he was at fault for overplaying no doubt though… wonder if DP would behave given the chance to roam freely

and btw i love is watching the goalies instinctively staying above the goal line while playing the puck

why isn't #16 hanging in the rafters?

by bob l on Feb 22, 2010 1:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh, I bet DP would easily get into similar trouble, particularly with unfamiliar teammates.

I too love them playing above the invisible trapezoid line.

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by Dominik on Feb 22, 2010 1:43 PM EST up reply actions  

We’d feel great ;-)

I surely wouldn’t predict the Germans to score a lot, but I think 7-1 Canada is a pretty gutsy call. The Germans might not have the same depth as the Swiss, but they definitely have a better shutdown line. Of course, that might not be everything it takes to beat Canada, but it’s at least something. I actually liked parts of their performances against Sweden and Finland. 5-on-5, they didn’t allow a lot, but struggled quite a bit on the PK. Canada’s PP still seems to struggle, too, though. And even strength it won’t be any easier for them to create chances than against the Swiss. Moreover, the approach could not be perfect. Of course, they know they have to win it and should come out hard indeed, but they also might think of this game as a good chance to work on their game.

I still predict Canada to win of course, but they’d better be ready for another close game.

by BenHasna on Feb 22, 2010 2:47 PM EST up reply actions  

mine again...

qualifying round
Switzerland beats Belarus – close game
Canada beats Germany – even closer
Czech Republic beats Latvia
Slovakia beats Norway

quarter-finals
USA beat Switzerland – as close as it gets
Russia beats Canada
Sweden beats Slovakia
Czech Republic beats Finland

semi-finals
Czech Republic beats USA
Sweden beats Russia – or Russia beats Sweden ;-)

Bronze
Russia beats US

Gold
Sweden beats Czech Republic

Concering the Czech Republic lacking firepower (to beat the US in the semi-finals). Indeed, that would be my main concern, as well. But it’s actually not as big a concern anymore as ahead of the tournament. Jagr is doing much better than I expected – at least as long as he doesn’t get hit by Ovechkin… And I liked their finish against Russia. Plus I liked them in various other situations, particularly their blue line.
And not sure if the US offense has been as good as the results might suggest. Yes, they have found ways to score goals, that’s nice anyway, but for example, I don’t think they’ll get another 4 goals of Rafalski or as many turnovers and soft goals given away by the opposition again.

But well, let’s see first if those two ever will meet at all… I wouldn’t mind Switzerland-Finland in the semis, either ;-)

by BenHasna on Feb 22, 2010 2:32 PM EST reply actions  

Offense: U.S. and Czech

it’s an interesting question. A lot of U.S. offense has come from crashing the net and powerplay. Kane or Parise, maybe Ryan, are the only ones you’d expect might score through spectacular individual play (and yet…then there was Backes flying down the wing).

It’s such a small sample it’s hard to judge what we’ve really “seen” out there. Jagr has been better than I expected, too, but I feel like the U.S. offense will get more done than the Czechs. That could be based on my built expectation of a letdown when watching the Czech Republic, though. Playing the self-loathing victim role.

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by Dominik on Feb 22, 2010 3:51 PM EST up reply actions  

The more we talk about, the more I’d love to see this game. Agree that the US have the “better” offense overall – more ways to get their goals from. But it’s very hard to compare them indeed, just so different styles. And just to be clear, I’d root for Scott Gordon’s offense anyway ;-) But they’ve overachieved a bit in terms of scoring, I’d say. The Swiss played two bad periods in their own zone, including Weber’s non-existent defense on Backes… The Norwegians mainly cracked towards the end with a goalie who might not exactly have been as sharp as in other games and Canada were not convincing defensively in any way.

I just think we should not expect them to get nearly as much help as in any of their first three games. But I like the offense, I like the way they play and any medal would be a nice success. But the games will only get tighter and the opponents stronger defensively moreover. That’s when you can’t afford your scoring guys not clicking. Right now, I don’t think the US have found a line who could create a good amount of chances against the best defensive teams.

by BenHasna on Feb 22, 2010 6:10 PM EST up reply actions  

I do hope it happens; I could enjoy a U.S.-Czech matchup much more than U.S.-Finland. Vokoun has the ability to match Miller save for save, too.

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by Dominik on Feb 22, 2010 10:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Women's Game

US is on the verge of running away with it. 3-0 just a bit into the 2nd.

Amazingly the Swedish goalie started her career at the 98 Olympics, as a 16 year old.

"Martin is psychical" - In reference to Matt Martin being called up to the Islanders.

by Mark D on Feb 22, 2010 3:56 PM EST reply actions  

Ouch, 4-0 That should do it.

"Martin is psychical" - In reference to Matt Martin being called up to the Islanders.

by Mark D on Feb 22, 2010 4:00 PM EST up reply actions  

4-1

on The PP for Sweden, one of the US women blocked a shot and was down hurt making it a 5-3. To top it off the Swede apparently plays Rob Schremp hockey, she batted the puck out of midair into the net.

"Martin is psychical" - In reference to Matt Martin being called up to the Islanders.

by Mark D on Feb 22, 2010 4:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Sweet.

Thanks for the update. I think I remember that 16-year-old from back then. Wow.

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by Dominik on Feb 22, 2010 4:02 PM EST up reply actions  

actually I misheard it, she was 15 for the 2001 Word Cup Championship

"Martin is psychical" - In reference to Matt Martin being called up to the Islanders.

by Mark D on Feb 22, 2010 4:07 PM EST up reply actions  

So she’d have been 16 for the 2002 Olympics, I guess?

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by Dominik on Feb 22, 2010 4:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Math does make sense, lol

"Martin is psychical" - In reference to Matt Martin being called up to the Islanders.

by Mark D on Feb 22, 2010 4:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Norway just won the men’s sprint..

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by Martys301 on Feb 22, 2010 4:49 PM EST reply actions  

Wohooo!!! They won’t fire the entire coaching staff like they did after Turin.

BTW, Minnesotans are really freaking nice. It’s a bit unnerving coming from the city. At the airport I actually had this random woman ask me if I needed a ride while I was waiting to be picked up. And I didn’t feel like she was an axe murderer like I would if it was at LaGuardia.

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by David Hanssen on Feb 22, 2010 7:44 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Ha! I forgot about this

They are ridiculously nice. I have friends from there and some family currently relocated there, and their opposing perspectives on it is always fun to provoke. But oh my, yes coming from the East it’s going to be quite an eye-opener. You’ll probably also find yourself occasionally wishing a fellow driver/pedestrian/person in line would “just go and stop with the politeness already.”

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by Dominik on Feb 22, 2010 10:52 PM EST up reply actions  

By the way, as long as we're gloating:

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by Dominik on Feb 22, 2010 5:24 PM EST reply actions  

Really a shame that Pronger didn’t injure himself on that one.

by AP77 on Feb 22, 2010 6:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Was it Pronger with Perry and Getzlaf? Ducks of a feather flocking together? (Sorry.)

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by Dominik on Feb 22, 2010 11:00 PM EST up reply actions  

As soon as that happened I said, “I know what my next wallpaper is going to be.”

U-S-A! U-S-A! U-S-A!

by metalcoconut on Feb 22, 2010 9:12 PM EST up reply actions  

still doesn’t explain why the refs blew it dead and ruined a potential US advantage

why isn't #16 hanging in the rafters?

by bob l on Feb 23, 2010 8:42 AM EST up reply actions  

They also blew the whistle on a play where Brodeur went down to cover a puck and missed. There did not appear to be a eminent US goal but they were scrambling for the puck.

I can see the whistle blowing for potential injury on that 3 way play but the uncovered puck was absolutely silly. I think that the puck might have been out of sight for a fraction of a second. However, mistakes are made and I can see them writing that one off. If something like that happens again to only Canada I will begin got suspect something.

U-S-A! U-S-A! U-S-A!

by metalcoconut on Feb 23, 2010 9:02 AM EST up reply actions  

I think its more that it was Marty

The assumption that a goalie like Marty will cover the puck dead is something these refs just cant get out of their minds. It is the reason that, when the Isles play, we see quick whistles even when the puck is out in the open, while Roloson can have his glove over a puck yet the refs will allow opponents to hack away at his hands until they dislodge it and score. Its the reason that Marty can jump out of the crease and freeze the puck and the refs let him, while Roloson gets a ridiculous penalty for not playing it (even though there are opponents swarming towards him.) It is unfair, but its just how top goalies are treated. AND, the top goalies as far as the way they are treated are mostly Canadian.

Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)

by TheMetalChick on Feb 23, 2010 9:44 AM EST up reply actions  

Beg to differ.....

…..I would contend that Canada DID bring their A-game and it was actually our old friend ‘overspeed’ that beat them in the end (along with Miller’s VERY Drydenesque play); we also witnessed what our Islanders really could be next season with the absolutely phenomenal passing of last night – Kesler’s empty-netter was comparable to RSH’s highlight reel goal earlier this season…..much as it truly pains me to admit this, apparently Burke DOES know what he’s doing (but Kyle would’ve fit in flawlessly on this squad all the SAME, it was made very clear…..) Have been very impressed with Streit’s performance so far and the Swiss had to have given Canada a major scare with that shootout decision…..SO great to have seen Ziggy back on the ice again against the Czechs, too!

by ogam5 on Feb 22, 2010 8:38 PM EST reply actions  

Kyle would’ve fit in flawlessly on this squad all the SAME

Its so true.

Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)

by TheMetalChick on Feb 23, 2010 10:01 AM EST up reply actions  

- and oh, YEAH....

…..NBC blew a huge ratings opp by not airing this on the parent network. What were they THINKING?

by ogam5 on Feb 22, 2010 8:46 PM EST reply actions  

Canada - Finland Women's Semi

Was just about to say that this might be an epic game, as it was almost the end of the 2nd and only 2-0 Canada while Canada has a 28-4 Shots advantage.

But Canada just scored and I really don’t think Finland can score 3 goals in the last twenty minutes considering they barely have 5 shots on goal in two periods.

"Martin is psychical" - In reference to Matt Martin being called up to the Islanders.

by Mark D on Feb 22, 2010 9:19 PM EST reply actions  

4-0 Canada, no way Finland is coming back.

"Martin is psychical" - In reference to Matt Martin being called up to the Islanders.

by Mark D on Feb 22, 2010 9:46 PM EST up reply actions  

I am bummed out...

…that rooting for Mark Streit to win means that his team will then necessarily go up against the US- in which case I will not longer be able to root for him, but will instead have to root against him. Cruel fate!

Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)

by TheMetalChick on Feb 22, 2010 9:31 PM EST reply actions  

If Only Okposo had made the US team, it would feel less dirty.

"Martin is psychical" - In reference to Matt Martin being called up to the Islanders.

by Mark D on Feb 22, 2010 9:33 PM EST up reply actions  

That was Willie Geist who made the upset remark

and you’re correct.

You can tell he doesn’t know shit about hockey.

by Chickendirt on Feb 22, 2010 10:02 PM EST reply actions  

I was on the phone with my brother, who had just tuned in (he recorded the game and thought it would be over, but he tuned in to see the final score), and we were laughing as the host was narrating highlights: “And … some pushing and shoving here…lots of shoving.”

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by Dominik on Feb 22, 2010 10:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Luongo Officially Starting

It’s Official, and he sounds hyped.

I so want to see US Vs Canada now, for the Miller Vs Luongo show.

"Martin is psychical" - In reference to Matt Martin being called up to the Islanders.

by Mark D on Feb 23, 2010 1:21 AM EST reply actions  

I will repeat my comment

We have witnessed the end of an era.

In Vancouver, in Canada, in our Olympics, there is no way Babcock could go back to Brodeur. Even if the only concrete purpose was to send a message to the team. If Brodeur played and we lost, Vancouver would erupt. If Luongo plays and wins, great — hallelujah and pass the Molson Canadian. If he plays and loses, then the nay sayers (with the exception of Islander Nation’s favourite village idiot) cannot complain; they will, but they shouldn’t.

And before we get too far off topic, let’s remember that Canada vastly outplayed the Americans in that game. Miller won it for them, with a bit of help from Brodeur’s sloppy play and allowaing of weak goals. There shouldn’t be any thought that this team can’t win and that it is a serious systemic flaw in our national game. There will be of course, but there shouldn’t be.

Canada’s overall performance at these games has been markedly below expectations; a failure to medal in men’s hockey will mark it as a disaster and will no doubt send us into a serious crisis of identity and confidence, probably affecting our entire national psyche for a decade or more. No pressure guys.

by Nova Scotia Isles Fan on Feb 23, 2010 8:55 AM EST up reply actions  

Personally I think a failure to gold is going to mark it as a disaster.

"Martin is psychical" - In reference to Matt Martin being called up to the Islanders.

by Mark D on Feb 23, 2010 9:17 AM EST up reply actions  

but failing to medal is out and out unacceptable on home ice, or to put it more realistically, probably flat out embarrassing

why isn't #16 hanging in the rafters?

by bob l on Feb 23, 2010 9:58 AM EST up reply actions  

Miller won it for them, with a bit of help from Brodeur’s sloppy play and allowaing of weak goals.

I simply do not believe that all the goals Marty let in were weak. And its not like the Canadians were ahead the whole game and the Americans mustered up a puny little win. the Canadians did not have a lead for even one second of that game. That is not a result of only the goalies, that is a result of the TEAMS.

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by TheMetalChick on Feb 23, 2010 9:39 AM EST up reply actions  

you can make a case that 2 were, the drury goal certainly was his fault for swatting that puck up ice and then overplaying and scrambling, 1 off crosby, another of langen’s skate, another seeing eye goal that the slowmo low ice replay showed looked like when you have to putt-putt through a windmill

nobody calling out how they took undisciplined penalties, how they were out-hustled in crucial moments (like that empty netter) or how they failed to bury the chances they did have (they heaped praise on miller instead)

why isn't #16 hanging in the rafters?

by bob l on Feb 23, 2010 9:53 AM EST up reply actions  

I agree, especially with the talent Canada puts on the ice solely blaming Marty for the loss is unfair. But he does make a good scapegoat.

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by David Hanssen on Feb 23, 2010 9:54 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

The US appeared to have blocked more shots and had IMO had more heart than the Canadians for most of that game. It is obvious that they had less talent, especially when they would get pinned in their own zone for close to a minute and a half.

For some reason I don’t think that will happen if they meet again. If they meet for a medal…fireworks. The US will do all they can to hang on to that game. However I suspect that the Canadians will use Pronger and Weber a little more and try to disrupt the US flow a little more than they did in that last game.

U-S-A! U-S-A! U-S-A!

by metalcoconut on Feb 23, 2010 10:40 AM EST up reply actions  

You'll notice that I don't blame Brodeur for the loss (not totally, at least),

but the reality is that he made a critical mistake in the first minute, resulting in a goal. He made a dreadful mistake immediately after Canada tied the game and was dominating play, resulting in another, momentum sapping, goal.

He made some nice saves in the game when we were down 3-2, but to win one of these games, he HAS to make the save on the second goal (dreadfully weak) and he desperately needs to stop that third one. I don’t think he saw the PP goal and of course he can’t be blamed for Corry Perry getting absolutely outhusstled by Kessler on the empty netter.

Canada had its chances. THEY did not score more than the US did. That means THEY (and not just Marty) lose the game. THEY took undisciplined penalties at the worst possible time.

But the reality is that they outplayed the US for most of the game. This makes me confident that they “have it together”. Whether they have it together enough to beat the Russians, I don’t know; I really wasn’t looking for that particular matchup until the Gold Medal game.

Frankly, I don’t envy the Germans tonight. Babcock should have the boys looking for blood (figuratively, not literally).

by Nova Scotia Isles Fan on Feb 23, 2010 10:20 AM EST up reply actions  

On that note, while context is everything (the writers may have omitted other statements), some of his quotes about the game were almost shocking. Seemed to hang a lot on his offense, on the Crosby deflection, on penalties…

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by Dominik on Feb 23, 2010 11:21 AM EST up reply actions  

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GP W L OTL PT
New York Rangers 55 37 13 5 79
Philadelphia 56 31 18 7 69
Pittsburgh 56 32 19 5 69
New Jersey 56 32 20 4 68
New York Islanders 56 24 24 8 56

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New York Islanders Roster

# Pos. DOB W H
Josh Bailey 12 LW 10/2/1989 190 6-1
Rick DiPietro 39 G 9/19/1981 190 6-1
Mark Eaton 4 D 5/6/1977 215 6-1
Michael Grabner 40 RW 10/5/1987 185 6-0
Travis Hamonic 3 D 8/16/1990 203 6-2
Milan Jurcina 27 D 6/7/1983 253 6-4
Andrew MacDonald 47 D 9/7/1986 196 6-1
Matt Martin 17 LW 3/8/1989 210 6-3
Al Montoya 35 G 2/13/1985 203 6-2
Mike Mottau 10 D 3/19/1978 190 6-0
Matt Moulson 26 LW 11/1/1983 205 6-1
Evgeni Nabokov 20 G 7/25/1975 200 6-0
Aaron Ness 55 D 5/18/1990 170 5-10
Nino Niederreiter 25 RW 9/8/1992 205 6-2
Frans Nielsen 51 C 4/24/1984 184 6-0
Kyle Okposo 21 RW 4/16/1988 205 6-0
Jay Pandolfo 29 LW 12/27/1974 190 6-1
P.A. Parenteau 15 LW 3/24/1983 193 6-0
Marty Reasoner 16 C 2/26/1977 205 6-1
Dylan Reese 42 D 8/29/1984 201 6-1
Brian Rolston 11 LW 2/21/1973 215 6-2
Steve Staios 24 D 7/28/1973 200 6-1
Mark Streit 2 D 12/11/1977 197 6-0
John Tavares 91 C 9/20/1990 202 6-0
Tim Wallace 36 RW 8/6/1984 207 6-1
Ty Wishart 6 D 5/19/1988 222 6-4
Calvin de Haan 44 D 5/9/1991 187 6-1

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