Streit steadies Switzerland to shootout with Canada
Despite the self-confidence and determination required to evolve from an obscure Swiss specialist to a #1 defenseman worthy of a five-year contract from an NHL team, Mark Streit still sometimes, I think, needs to be reminded just how good he can be. Captaining his underdog homeland team seems to do that.
Streit did not figure in the scoring last night, but his presence was felt all over the ice and throughout what became 65 minutes of game play. (The 2-2 tie ended in Canada's favor in the shootout gimmick, but thankfully the Olympic rules at least award three points for a regulation win and only two points for a shootout.) Where there was a penalty kill needed, a physical confrontation desired, a clear essential, Streit was there. And when Ryan Getzlaf wanted to line him up, it was Streit who kept skating while Getzlaf bounced off him like a crash test dummy.
Make no mistake: The skill mismatch was in effect, as Switzerland was outshot 46-23 -- though Canada's seven powerplays to Switzerland's one certainly inflated that figure. But the Swiss did all you can do in this situation -- call it a trap, fine, but it was a physical, controlled, fundamentally sound defensive effort that waits for the counterattack. Switzerland played more assertively and took more opportunities to attack than they did against the U.S., where they sat back too much until the third period. They needed every illustrious Jonas Hiller save to make it to OT, but then again Martin Brodeur had to make his share of eye-opening saves. The Swiss philosophy appeared to be bend, don't break: Make the safe chip, the frustrating forecheck-undermining reverse, the acceptable concession of neutral zone real estate.
I had the MSCNBC "Hockey 101" feed, but Canaada-residing BC here told us the CTV announcers raved about Streit and said the Canadians should rough him up. As well they should (rave, not rough up), for Streit was the steady hand back there. While he's rebounded from a slower start this year with the Islanders, I hope he takes this performance as revitalizing, another springboard toward what he can accomplish with the Islanders. This guy is a real NHL #1, and I think we've yet to see the best his career has to offer.
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In the end, the shootout went to Canada, with Mike Babcock wisely using Sidney Crosby twice as part of the Olympic rules that stretch the shootout to its inevitable, absurd conclusion.
With Canada only taking two points, they are a point behind the U.S. However, their 8-0 win over Norway trumps 3-1 and 6-1 wins for the U.S. (goal difference: +8 vs. +7). So unless I'm missing something, the U.S. still needs a regulation win Sunday against the eh-oh-Canada-go's; an OT loss by the U.S. against Canada would still give Canada the group victory by virtue of their rattling of the Norge. Oh, I was missing something alright: Thanks to multiple corrections in comments; head-to-head takes precedent over goal difference, so suffice to say the U.S. needs to win Sunday, period. (I blame late nights trying to locate NBC Ocho ... or Olympic break rust.)
Links
- Oilers site Copper & Blue (SBN) has done some good game reviews already, and their review of this game went into impressive detail.
- Behind the Net has a few in-depth looks at the shifts and who lined up against whom.
- The Canada perspective as told by Duhatschek
- Not only but also: If you missed this referenced the other day, Caps blog Japers' Rink went into those Sutton-to-D.C. rumors and pondered whether Sutton is enough of an upgrade worth the effort.
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So unless I’m missing something, the U.S. still needs a regulation win Sunday
any win will do dom, not just a regulation win
why isn't #16 hanging in the rafters?
Ah yes, of course. Thanks. I was so worried about Canada’s ability to win the group via two shootout wins that I overlooked the obvious. This must be why the NHL wouldn’t dare complicate the standings — people like me get so confused.
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with Mike Babcock wisely using Sidney Crosby twice
That wasn’t wise that was self preservation. If he chose to not use Sidney twice and they would have lost (which was more than highly unlikely but for entertainment purposes I’ll try to have you imagine that scenario) he would have been forced to endure 48 solid hours of Sarah Palin speeches while being strapped to a chair with his eyes forced open.
This is all aside from the fact that I think that is incredibly unfair. That statement is made aside from the fact that the skills competition is not real hockey. Next time someone goes to a shootout with Canada they should just give Canada the win or just let Sidney Crosby shoot every time so that it doesn’t have to last as long. Not to say that Hiller didn’t have some excellent saves but come on…facing the same guy twice in 4 shooters? Utter trash…
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Totally agree. The shootout is trash, being able to repeat shooters even trashier. (“How can we make this competition any less about the actual game it’s deciding? I know! 1-on-1 in perpetuity!”)
But given the “rules,” since Crosby’s first attempt forced an unbelievable, joint-stretching save out of Hiller, I thought going back to him was the right call. A guy with Crosby’s arsenal of moves, and in the goalie’s head he knows one of those moves practically requires a yard sale to stop.
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The Russinas used Ovie 3 times last night in the loss to Slovakia. I know it went like 12 rounds, but that’s just wrong.
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by David Hanssen on Feb 19, 2010 11:31 AM EST up reply actions
The one solace, I guess, is that the Ovie re-run show did not pay off.
And now this Czech-Slovak-Russia grouping is getting very interesting.
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I love watchng Ovie but that is just wrong and fortunately the right team won that competition. Had the Russians won off of a 3rd chance penalty shot for Ovie…well I’m sure the Russian mafia would have loved it.
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by metalcoconut on Feb 19, 2010 12:21 PM EST up reply actions
48 solid hours of Sarah Palin speeches while being strapped to a chair with his eyes forced open.
America! Lower Taxes! Hockey Mom! Obama = Facist!
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by David Hanssen on Feb 19, 2010 11:30 AM EST up reply actions
Typing that made my skin crawl so I am pretty sure that would be an appropriate punishment. Maybe we could throw the hourly pepper spraying in there…
U-S-A! U-S-A! U-S-A!
by metalcoconut on Feb 19, 2010 12:19 PM EST up reply actions
Better then Not Using Gretzky at all!
"Martin is psychical" - In reference to Matt Martin being called up to the Islanders.
If Gretz was playing I’m sure that shootout would have turned into a North American Man Boy Love Association (NAMBLA) festival quickly. The entire Canadian audience (including the TV watching population) would have lit up right there and you wouldn’t be able to touch them for about a half hour after it ended.
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by metalcoconut on Feb 19, 2010 12:27 PM EST up reply actions
Just to double check, I’m refrencing the 2002 Olympics (Or maybe 98, probably 98) when Gretzky sat on the bench and watched the shootout without participating.
"Martin is psychical" - In reference to Matt Martin being called up to the Islanders.
Oh I did not realize that you were making a specific reference. I was envisioning a post coital Canadian nation upon witnessing a Crosby/Gretzky shootout.
Did that really happen? I can’t believe I don’t remember that. That would have been such a great memory.
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by metalcoconut on Feb 19, 2010 3:25 PM EST up reply actions
Think we might see any of these Swiss guys in camp next year via a recommendation by Streit?
"Martin is psychical" - In reference to Matt Martin being called up to the Islanders.
Someone on another blog was asking why the “Swiss-canadians” play so well against Canada. I haven’t looked yet and I am unsure but are there Canadians playing for the Swiss? Did I miss something?
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by metalcoconut on Feb 19, 2010 3:27 PM EST up reply actions
I found at least one: Hnat Domenichelli (born in Edmonton, played 267 games in the NHL, has played in the Swiss league since 2003)
Hnat is the only one this time around. The Swiss hockey federation has put an emphasis on not bringing in ringers of late. They want their homegrown talent to showcase their player development program.
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by David Hanssen on Feb 19, 2010 5:20 PM EST up reply actions
Really? That’s good to hear. It’s pretty cool seeing some of their talent emerge lately.
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I don’t think you can put it this way… They’d take anyone who makes them better, to be fair. Two more Swiss-Canadians (Paul DiPietro, hero from 2006, and Ryan Gardner) were in the race, but at the end were simply not good enough (anymore).
And generally, there are not too many Swiss-Canadians around. Thanks to being married to a Swiss, Domenichelli was allowed to become Swiss from the day he had been married for 3 years and had lived in Switzerland for 5 years. If not married to a Swiss, you must live in Switzerland for 10 or 12 years, I think. As most of the Canadians come over once they failed to make a good career in the NHL, they’re often already close to 25 when arriving. Add 5 to 10 years and your once talented Canadian becomes Swiss-Canadian a little aged and not so valueable anymore for a team, which always has the long-term plan in mind.
DiPietro is still playing? He’s got to be about 40 by now, no?
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by David Hanssen on Feb 19, 2010 9:30 PM EST up reply actions
Yes, almost, will be 40 in September. He had 33 points in 50 games (and still a big role) for EV Zug last season. He actually was pretty sure to make the Olympics by the start of this season. But he’s struggled more and more, has 22 points in 47 games, not a very big role anymore and was poor in three games for Switzerland in November.
Add 5 to 10 years and your once talented Canadian becomes Swiss-Canadian a little aged and not so valueable anymore for a team, which always has the long-term plan in mind.
Good point. I hadn’t really thought of that, but it makes sense.
Seeing those younger homegrown D on the Swiss team makes me think it won’t really be much of an issue before too long.
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No, it really won’t be long. And to think Roman Josi, the 19 year old Preds pick that plays for Bern, had to withdraw from the Olympics because of injury. With Josi, Sbisa, Nino, Weber and more on the horizon, the Swiss are producing some of the best young talent in hockey right now.
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by David Hanssen on Feb 20, 2010 10:04 PM EST up reply actions
If BC has his way, Nino (Although he’s not on the Olympic roster). Unfortunately a lot of the younger guys on their roster (Sbisa, Weber, Ambuhl) are property of NHL teams and the vets are under contract with their NLA teams for next year.
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by David Hanssen on Feb 19, 2010 5:23 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t think any of the vets would be signed by any NHL team, to be honest. Ambuhl is unlikely to ever play in the NHL and Weber has to improve dramatically, if he ever wants to get NHL shifts again. Extremely poor already against the US, Weber again made a few horrible mistakes early on and the Swiss actually got going only from when Weber was benched a couple of minutes into the 2nd period.
I’m glad to see everyone speaking highly of the Swiss team, but let’s not overrate the players. Yes, the improvement from the US game was big and many played well individually this time indeed. But this performance was all about the team. They know each other so well and executed the system properly. By the way, I wouldn’t call it a trap really or a trap at least is not what they would want to play. Sometimes, they struggle individually, don’t get the pucks out, are weak on the forecheck, etc. and that puts them in a passive position – as in the first two periods against the US. But normally, they’d like to be aggressive and that was how they got into the game in the 2nd period against Canada.
I have a good impression finally of how much of an advantage it is to know each other well. Of course, it’s early in the tournament, but I’m almost shocked to see so many players not being even close to their potential. I felt that in other games, too, but especially the Canadians were far from what I had seen from these players with their clubs. So much just wasn’t clicking… Other favourites might have similar problems and they have time to improve, but I could see two things tough to overcome particularly for Canada.
First of all, they lack of speed, it seems. The Swiss aren’t a slow team of course, but I was surprised how much quicker they were (once they got their game going). And, which is kind of the same problem, they don’t have enough true wingers. The games against the top teams will be different and the big bodies might be more valueable later on, but right now, I doubt this whole chemistry/winger/speed thing will be good enough.
Anyway, not our problem, Hans und Franz, right?! We’re seeing each other tomorrow ;-)
Yes. I think I have to give the Swiss the edge. Norway looked better against the US then they did against Canada, but after losing 8-0 that didn’t take much. Grotnes has been playing good enough, but he’s dealing with some quad issues and that might mean Norway plays Lysenstoen or Smith tomorrow and save Grotnes for the elimination round.
Norway’s offense has been abysmal. Mads Hansen isn’t the same player with the orbital fracture, as anyone would probably be. Per-Age Skroder has a foot injury he picked up against Canada. Zuccarello Aasen has looked good at times, but he doesn’t have enough offensive support to shine like he has in the Elitserien. The one big gripe I have is when Morten Ask withdrew they replaced him with a guy in Jonas Andersen that has only played 27 games outside of Norway’s league and hadn’t played for the national team since the 07 WC. They had other better qualified players available in Peter Lorentzen and LE Spets’ Brother Knut that they passed over.
The defense is worn out. That’s what you get when you continue to rely on a 39 yo Tommy Jakobsen and a 35 yo Lars Erik Lund as your main pairing when you have Jonas Holos and OK Tollefsen on your roster.
The Swiss are just plain better right now. Norway has some young talent in Aasen, Holos, Forsberg, Ylven Laumann and Spets on the team and Winkler, Djupvik Lovie and Froshaug in the wings they will get better, but right now they just aren’t ready for prime time.
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by David Hanssen on Feb 19, 2010 9:18 PM EST up reply actions
Oh, thanks! Sounds good ;-)
It’ll be interesting for sure. I could imagine a pretty close game… It’s just so different from the first two matches and the Swiss don’t like these games very much – for example lost against Latvia at the World Championships on home ice last year in an important game. Sometimes, they struggle to score in such games. Tough to judge their offense from the first two games – we haven’t seen much of the PP for example… And they surely give up clearly more odd-man rushes in such games. I haven’t seen everything of Norway’s first two games, but thought they looked well on odd-man rushes for example and I also liked the first period against Canada in general.
Terrific game today. Switzerland deserved to win in the end, I’m surprised the Norway was able to stay in the game as long considering how many defensive mistakes they made. Zuccarello Aasen plays bigger then his 5’7" frame and with linemates that actually created space for him to do his thing today he was the game changing talent he has shown in the Elitserien. I wonder if some NHL scouts take notice and see if he wants to come stateside. Skol to Tore Vikingstad on the hat trick (Hey Dom, he’s Blues property. Do they have any need for a 34 year old center whose played his entire career in the DEL?).
While I have a lot of respect for Tommy Jakobsen, what he has done for hockey in Norway and he a big leader on and off the ice for this team but he has become a liability defensively. It’s painful to watch him play, and I think its time for him to let one of the younger defensemen on the team (Kaunismaki or Bonsaksen) to take his minutes. He was always kind of like Marc-Andre Bergeron, good PP quarterback somewhat lacking in his own zone.
So congrats Switzerland, I’ll leave the postmortem on their side to BenHansa.
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by David Hanssen on Feb 20, 2010 10:19 PM EST up reply actions
Kicking myself for missing that game today.
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Best game of the tourney so far (IMHO).
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by David Hanssen on Feb 20, 2010 11:32 PM EST up reply actions
hmm, best game?
First of all, thanks ;-) The game was interesting to watch, I’d say, but don’t know about the best one… Not so sure even, if the Swiss deserved the win indeed. Actually, I think, the Norwegians outworked them and when both teams make that many mistakes, the harder working team would perhaps deserve it.
I loved the work of the Norwegians along the boards as well as their first line of course. The Swiss hardly won any battle and lacked of organization in their own zone. And another young defender had a tough time. This time – with Weber not even dressed, by the way – Diaz looked horrible in the own zone, was running around way too much. I don’t really agree with the praise the young Swiss defenders get… Actually, besides Streit, veteran Seger, whose international career seemed to be over a couple of years ago, has been clearly their best defender. Sbisa has been ok, Blindenbacher perhaps not bad, but I could imagine him to have a bad game soon… Anyway, from now on, Streit’s minutes will only raise, it seems.
Some Swiss surely can play better individually, that’s positive. The team struggled as a whole to adjust to the opponent. It wasn’t easy of course, mentally and tactically. They just don’t like these games very much, actually drew against Italy 3:3 four years ago after the win against Canada… So, happy they got through and don’t face a big team, yet. The energy level should be higher again, Hiller should hopefully be sharper and Streit get more and more minutes. ;-)
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I have a good impression finally of how much of an advantage it is to know each other well.
On that note, what is Latvia’s problem?! I mean, I know they weren’t rated highly, but I expected … smarter play, I guess, considering how many of them are club teammates. They seem dispirited and totally devoid of the cohesive team effort Switzerland brought in the first two games.
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I don’t know, I at least expected Latvia to put up a fight. I know they are in the group of death, but jesus, the game vs. the Czechs was over before XNBC actually put it on the air.
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by David Hanssen on Feb 20, 2010 10:08 PM EST up reply actions
He was one of their shootout selections too. That is too funny. Canadians going to other teams to try to get playing time. Thanks for the info Andrew. I will probably look at the rest of the roster a little later.
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ooops
That was supposed to be a reply…sorry.
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by metalcoconut on Feb 19, 2010 5:19 PM EST up reply actions
Dom, not that it makes a difference in USA’s need to beat Canada to win the group, but the tiebreaker that comes into play if USA loses in overtime and ties Canada in points is the winner of the head-to-head game (which would be Canada). So even if USA had a better goal differential than Canada, they’d still need a win on Sunday for first place in the group.
From the IIHF website:
The tie-breaking system for two teams with the same number of points in a standing will be the game between the two teams, the winner of the game taking precedence.
Ah, cool. Thank you sir. Could have sworn I read goal difference was first, but head-to-head makes more sense (in my book).
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