Can-Sui/Slo-Rus [thread]
MSNBCiswas the U.S. outlet (joined in progress after the U.S. women beat Finland), but now it's moved to CNBC, in keeping with NBC's abuse of hockey. This thread started as Canada-Switzerland, but if anyone's around for Russia-Slovakia, carry on here. Palffy still looks like an NHL player.
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Game has moved back to CNBC
Just to reiterate: The game is now back on CNBC, or so Doc tells us.
What a mess they’ve made of this broadcasting thing. It’s really not hard to peg a hockey game schedule. No reason to join the game six minutes late on one network, then move it back to the scheduled network once curling — which always seems to go late — is finished.
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GRRR
I had a great stream of the game, but whoever’s streaming isn’t paying attention so now I have to find another one. This is such bs. How come they can pre-empt their whole prime time lineup on NBC, but they can’t mess with their MSNBC lineup? You’d think they’d be more willing to keep regular shows on NBC and mess with MSNBC or CNBC.
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Game preview
Fun preview from the Canadian side at Copper & Blue, with a look back at the upset of 2006. As Streit just said in the intermission interview, “This time they were ready for us.”
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Luongo Vs Brodeur
Okay, I’ll admit I’m a huge Luongo fan, but I think Canada is missing a chance to go with one of the best goalies today in the prime of his career.
This means I’ll probably be proven wrong and they’ll win the Gold behind Brodeur.
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It’ll be interesting to see how it turns out. I don’t think either is a mistake, though I am amazed at the fidelity to legend some people profess with Brodeur. I mean, “money goaltending” and all that jazz — we’ve obviously seen him fail in the clutch before, too.
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especially lately, do people not remember last years Canes series? Luongo has had his bad runs in the playoffs too, but considering that the Canucks are a 3 man team (Sedin, Sedin, Luongo) them getting to the second round is worth something.
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I think the Canucks have become more than a 3-man team by now — some of their no-names have emerged — but considering the immediate effect he had on that team, I’d say he’s a more important piece than Brodeur. Particularly after the Devils didn’t miss a beat with Brodeur out last year.
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Shhhh. Thats a secret, don’t bring it up to Devil fans. Especially the same Devil fans who predicted last season that Brodeur would play his best Playoffs ever since he was fresh.
True though, there are some more Canucks.
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That was my favorite theory. Immediately altered to “he was rusty without the regular work.”
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And you know if it weren’t him, that end-of-game playoff hissy fit over perceived interference would have been described as a goalie cracking under the pressure. Not saying he hasn’t earned mountains of accolades, but people let the legend cloud observation.
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Can I be an Analyst?
I could have predicted that its a bad thing to give power plays to one of the greatest teams in the world…
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Wick
sounds too much like Witt, it keeps making me pay double attention and expecting to see a defensive gaffe.
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Good work CNBC
Away at a commercial during the goal…
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Is that one happened?!? I’d gotten up to feed the dogs and just assumed I missed it.
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2-1
Cheers to Ivo Reithmann, you score-on-a-great-shot-as-you-fall, you.
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The Swiss Alp
Awesome: Getzlaf tries to lay out Streit … and bounces off him to the ice.
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Per Puck Daddy chat:
" [Comment From Mike Milbury: ]
Can you believe the Islanders signed Streit? What a horrible move "
I laughed a bit.
Hnat!?!?!
Puts himself offside on a 2-on-1 with Streit … unbelievable.
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Swiss look like they want this game for than the Canadiens
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Did you see Cindy with the bloody nose? Doc said it was a high stick, I sy Cindy has bloody nose syndrome
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So...
Is Team USA better then Canada, or is this the Swiss team playing like they did during the 3rd against USA.
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Never surprised when a Goalie stops a teammate he used to play with. Once you practice with someone enough you know their tendencies.
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although the CTV announcers were looking at the other side
Bobby Ryan knew just where to shoot it and Getz and Perry will too
Swiss brought their game tonight
I thought they were way too conservative in the first two periods against the U.S. Tonight they’re still disciplined (save for the penalties), but more aggressive.
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If that was a penalty
…why didn’t they blow the whistle when the guy who committed it, you know, shot the puck around the boards? Weak call.
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Canada has blown a couple of chances to put this game away. Stop trying to be overly physical and skate, shoot, and score
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CTV color guy keeps saying they needed to take out Mark and couldn't
praising him over and over to the heavens
Good Move NBC
Moving whats probably the best game of the Prelims to CNBC instead of keeping it on MSNBC
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they’re next to each other for me up here, lol. It’s all the same at this point. I just wish the coverage in general would be better, like…. covering all the time they’re on the ice… like faceoffs and such.
Still need commercials to pay for all of this….
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Yeah, there’s no excuse for commercials during gameplay. The Olympics are plenty overcommercialized and sold to the highest bidder; they don’t need to do that.
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Brodeur's little glove seizure
is pretty lame.
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CTV guys made the point that Hiller knows Canadian shooters
but Marty doesn’t know the Swiss. Seabrook and Iginla out for the third and OT
LET HIM PLAY. LET HIM PLAY. LET HIM PLAY.
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Me too. It’s like: “How can we make the shootout even more idiotic? Wait! I know…!”
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but then redeems himself
they are exorcising demons up here. Sidney Crosby with an entire nation riding on his shoulders quote by announcer
Nice call going back to Crosby
He has the varied arsenal to convert on a second look.
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Canada doesn’t get the same points for a win now, do they ?
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2 points instead of 3, Swiss get a point
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With the way the U.S. has played, they’re gonna need it.
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I think they get better with more practice everyday…
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I think the US team is the only important team without a line that plays together on the same team.
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Yeah, that could be big. Canada can keep throwing that Sharks line out there for a dependably strong shift. And Crosby causes problems just about every shift.
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It goes to two points for the OT win, one for the SOL. Logic wins in international hockey.
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Olczyk
“You’re not going to score going glove side on Marty Brodeur.”
Analyst hyperbole is alive and well.
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I just hope
Some devout curling fans better have missed their first few innings thanks to this game going to the shootout.
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Russia VS China next
“I must crush you” “lets get ready for the beat down”
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OMG, its woman’s hockey No wonder the score isn’t 15-0
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I’m up for watching another hockey game, don’t care whose playing, lol.
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They have 5 Ovechkins now?
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Malkin, Ovi, Kovy, Gonch, Semin !! per @dchesnokov (if you’re twitter inclined).
Gonchar is a dman but obviously has one of the most capable offensive abilities at the blue line … and .. just…. LOOK AT IT FOR THE LOVE OF THE MERCY RULE! ….scary.
well ten minutes into the game, and there"s no score. This isn’t the Russian army team here.
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Mostly because the collapse of the USSR was before Women’s Hockey became an olympic sport.
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Guess a USSR woman was similar to a woman here in the 1800’s…stay at home, raiser family and cook.
At least the look like they can score.
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Meanwhile, what effect will the one-child policy have on China’s women’s hockey program? Then again, I suppose with a billion-plus people you can afford a few hundred million who prefer their child be a boy.
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I think they stopped the law, but they prefer you to try to have only one child.
In Orphanages Girls outnumber Boys by something like 6 or 7 to one. Also there is a shortage of females in a lot of schools from what I hear.
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It’s the Sino-Russian war, only now the women are allowed to fight.
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Ha, no doubt. Seems like Brodeur gave them three different looks. Would have LOVED to see a Swiss go Nielsen on him.
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Indeed. I was pretty sure no one was going to score, though. The shootouts in the Swiss league are pretty embarrassing to watch… And most of the guys don’t have any moves, just always shoot the puck. That’s why I’d perhaps have gone with Streit indeed, but well, wouldn’t have expected to score him really, either… Anyway, a very good game.
It really was. That Swiss effort tonight probably beats the U.S. in Game 1.
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If only Schremp and Nielsen were Swiss ;-)
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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by TheMetalChick on Feb 18, 2010 10:38 PM EST up reply actions
China
I’m moving there and applying to be the Women’s Hockey team coach. I could manage this!
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Dumb Question
I never checked, Is this where the Canucks play or a whole new rink?
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have to run to the gym, but I believe this is where they play. You might notice it’s called Olympic place or whatever, because they don’t allow corporate sponsors for these games on site, so… it’s blocked for the time being.
“Canada Hockey Place” is where the Canucks play (aka [carmaker] place). But they are using a second rink, which I assume is this one.
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Why the shit
did Crosby get to go again? Is this another rule change to favor Canadians like letting them play on NHL-sized rinks this year? :)
This will be the last time the words NHL and Olympics will be used together. Next time, the NHL will not break for 2-3 weeks.
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I don’t know, I would definitely miss them. Maybe they could work it out so they play 10 – 15 less games instead of squeezing the schedule. I mean you could drop one or two of the inter divisional games.
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When they first announced that NHL players would be involved, I was excited. But the reality of the situation has been pretty sad. Especially with the World Cup now, I say drop it.
The amateur ideal never really existed in hockey, not with the pro Russian programs and all that. But I do prefer that anyway; the easiest thing would be to move the WJC to the Olympics every four years. (I’m sure Hockey Canada and the rest would never stand for the lost revenue, though.) I think that’s how they still do it in soccer; it’s just a U-23 tournament except each team gets one or a handful of overage exceptions.
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Look at it this way. The NHL has gotten some unpopular ideas from the Olympics. First was the shootout, next will be no touch icing.
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Oh, I don’t think the shootout is unpopular per se. I mean, I don’t like it. But I think the average/casual fan does.
average/casual
I’m an average/casual fan to, and I don’t really like it. But if they didn’t have it, there would be ties.
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Streit should be really proud of himself and his team. He had a great game and they played their asses off tonight.
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He was a steady, controlled, dynamo pain in the ass tonight. I loved it.
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Odd Shot
Chinese goalie was expecting it to be a low shot and dropped and the shot floated high.
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Poor China
Looked like a weak penalty, goal for Russia on the PP should put it away.
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wow
Russia’s having a tough time with Slovakia
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They are
It’s pretty wild to watch Ovechkin make Chara look like he can’t skate. His hits are making Chara look like he’s back in his rookie year.
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Palffy
I wonder if his time on the Islanders spoiled him? Even on the Kings it was still him and Smolinski as the top line. Yet he infamously wasn’t willing to share the spotlight with Crosby on the Pens and even in his last season still managed a point a game. Watching him now he still had a few more good NHL seasons in him.
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I think I’ve mentioned this on here before, but he kind of galvanized my relationship with this team. I am too young for the Dynasty itself, I’m sure many of us are, but I grew up getting to see the Capital District Islanders, and watching the big team on a fuzzy MSG feed when they played. However, It wasn’t until my first official Isles jersey, the Palffy fisherman, that I really knew this was it. It’s the little things that spur on some great moments with a team you root for, and he not only was an excellent player to watch, but obviously one of the largest reasons I love the team so much, it’ll always be a shame to know he had to leave.
I think its a pretty even mix between the regulars of people who were around for the Dynasty and for the 90s and beyond kiddies. For me it was Glenn Healy and the 93 run that solidified it. I became a huge Turregon fan after Healy left, and then I got a Turregon jersey/shirt and Maloney trades him 2 weeks later.
Palffy though was always one of those great reasons to watch the Islanders, between him and Salo they both had a ton of talent. Its too bad that they just couldn’t put together the pieces around them.
Palffy is one of the trades I don’t bust Milbury on, as the word from above was to trade him. It always seemed like a matter of time considering Palffy was just so far above everyone else on the team.
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It was never clear to me with Palffy’s move away from North America. I remember he was battling a nagging (or worse) back injury when he parted from the Penguins. Maybe that was just cover for bailing, or maybe he knew the hockey would be less physically taxing back home?
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Shoulder, but I remember it being said that he wasn’t happy on the Pens not being the star or something along those lines.
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lol
I was checking articles.
“Hours after Palffy retired, the Penguins traded a sixth-round draft pick to Florida for 6-foot-6 defenseman Eric Cairns, who could provide a physical presence to help protect Crosby.”
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So of course I can’t find anything to back it up now.
Looking through the articles he cited personal reasons, but everyone said it was either his back or shoulder.
I think the Pens sucked, he was 33, was the #2 target for goons to take out, and he didn’t want to relive his Islanders days. Especially since he managed to return to playing in the less taxing hockey in Slovakia.
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I’ll take that bet
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I want to see Chara just skate halfway up to the Net and take a blast
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The Caps fans i’ve had the time to speak with consistently have told me he’s just not a shootout guy. One way or the other, not like Russia doesn’t have depth.
My feeds a little behind, but with a sniper shot like that its always good having him on the shootout.
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Bryzgalof likes his Stick Poke too much, its going to burn him.
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BTW
Called it. Demitra stayed just outside of his Reach, Byzgalof twice went for the poke, the second time he went full extension and Demitra got him.
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That was a veeeeery nifty move. When he started and took a left turn at the blueline, I started to wonder…
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one would think, but I was being straightforward for my reasoning.
and uh… wait, OVie can go 2nd, 4th… and 6th? This shootout deal in the olympics is a joke.
wow, surprising. I guess he tries being too fancy.
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I think he is just cannon guy, with less stickhandling, but it’s so overshadowed by his power. Take a look at his accuracy % over the years… eh.
It’s weird, he gets so many goals off the rush and by releasing quickly, it’s almost like he’s not sure what to do in the shootout.
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USA hockey question
Why do you think the US has never produced a world-class hockey talent? We’ve had some great players, but no Gretzky, Lemieux, Jagr, Ovechkin. In international hockey, we need a team effort or goaltender help. Even in the everyday NHL, an American has n ever been the best player. They’ve won awards, but did an American hockey player ever strike you as the best in the league? It’s just something I thought about. What do you folks think?
by billymac23 on Feb 19, 2010 2:34 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Beezer or Richter? They were both easily at or near the top of the goalie class. Richter almost willed the Rangers to victories after they started signing every expensive star who did nothing.
Beezer had some incredible runs with the Panthers
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you know, we’ve had LaFontaine, Chelios, Leetch, Richter, Modano …
it’s some perspective. I agree that Canada especially has more notable superstars, but these guys are junior amateurs up there and they get traded for compensation at sometimes 14 years old. Look at Mike Bossy’s story growing up, this was a guy whose family moved around with him, and to an extent, got by because of him. Up until you’re 18, you’re not making money in the US, and the same rhetoric applies to the NCAA, so Canada and the international community offers up some more liberal opportunities to be bred into the hockey life. Just a thought, not necessarily an answer.
by albeezle on Feb 19, 2010 2:40 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
From my limited experience coaching youth hockey, the guys I coached with would tell me horror stories of the best team in the area they could get together going up to Canada and just being routed like it was nothing.
Supposedly its just a life style. You wake up, go play hockey outside for an hour or two, go to school, come home and play hockey until its dark all year round. With the difference between climates, its not surprising.
My friends brother would lead 10-12 year old divisions in scoring as an 8 and 9 year old. One time a traveling team put him on their “In House” league because he tried out for the older team. His team ended up being undefeated, getting mercy wins almost every game and him having a 70 or 80 point season in 10-12 games. He continued to dominate at the High School level, making the main varsity team as a Sophmore after leading the Frosh team to the championship. This was in the NYC Catholic HS League. He won a ton of awards and put up a bunch of points. But when it came time for college, he had to chose between a division 1 team that was bottom of the barrel or a D2 team that was highly regarded. He ended up going to Albany or somewhere near Albany I think, getting depressed and hating it and leaving college. So now he just plays in a mens league and dominates that.
He’s probably not the only one like that, in which you get to the College level and it just sort of fizzles, or going to a good hockey college school means going to a state that is frozen and being in the middle of nowhere.
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Curling anyone?
Haha, just fucking around with you, I’m hitting the sack.
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