Islanders Gameday: Fun with coaching numbers
by Dominik on Dec 9, 2010 12:46 PM EST
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This isn't fair to either coach, but it's fun to look at anyway. Here is a basic numbers comparison of the Islanders in Scott Gordon's final eight games versus Jack Capuano's first eight games. As always, these figures exclude empty-net and shootout goals, which only make numbers even less meaningful:
| Coach | Record | GF | GA | PP | PK |
| Gordon's final 8 | 0-7-1 | 8 | 28 | 3/36 | 23/29 |
| Cap's first 8 | 1-5-2 | 16 | 24 | 0/24 | 26/33 |
Positive spin: More offense! Three more points! Plus, it takes a while to adjust under a new coach, as seen last year with Peter Laviolette and Davis Payne.
Negative spin: What's changed? It's the players, stupid.
Neutral spin: It's too early to tell. These are figures trotted out on broadcasts in Sports Fan's Endless Search for Meaning.
Gordon's GA figures include both blowouts (Flyers 6-1, Hurricanes 7-2). Capuano has yet to see a powerplay goal, which is stunning but a mere continuation of ills begun under Gordon. Put another way: I have attended three family birthday parties since the last time I saw an Islanders PP goal. Worse: I had to buy a Flyers hat for my rebellious godson and nephew.
You wouldn't think the insane goaltending of Tim Thomas [update: word is Rask, actually] and defense of Claude Julien's Bruins would be just what the slump doctor ordered for these Isles, but you never know. (Right?...I mean, that's still true, isn't it?...Guys?)
New York Islanders (5-15-5, 30th) at Boston Bruins (15-8-3, 8th)
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To them, a "Milbury" is just a big defenseman-turned-coach/talking head: Stanley Cup of Chowder
Random Things of Uncertain Meaning
The Bruins' PP is better than the Islanders (17% vs. 15.1%), as is their PK (86.7% vs. 81.7%). But the Bruins both land more shots (32.1 vs. 28.2) and give up more shots (33.7 vs. 29.5) per game. All hail Tim Thomas.
This is an intra-East matchup...but are the Bruins a very good team, or just a good team in an awful conference? Most would agree right now the West is still superior to the East. (Sit down, Putin, we're just talking intra-North America NHL hockey here.) In the bottom 10 of the league, there are three Western teams (two of which are 21st and 22nd overall). Twelve Western teams have 30 points or more. Not to depress you.
Pre-Gamers
- Rick DiPietro gets the start.
- Based on practice this week, Jesse Joensuu lines up next to John Tavares and Matt Moulson, while P.A. Parenteau slides into his slot next to Frans Nielsen and Michael Grabner. That takes size away from that Nielsen/Grabner pairing, but depending on how Capuano uses them it might actually give them an offensive boost.
- The Bruins are now without Mark Stuart.
- NEW: Comeau speaks to Justin Bourne about...stuff.
Julien is giving us the "hard workers" treatment, in accordance with the Coaching Bible:
"Anybody who's followed them is going to tell you they've been in every game," said Bruins coach Claude Julien. "It's not like people are walking all over them. They've lost some close games.
- Newsday, which is temporarily not $5 please to you folks beyond the area and/or outside of corporate conglomeration, has both a pre-game (lots of talk on belief and the mental side) and a chat with beat writer Katie Strang from this morning.
- 7th Woman's pre-game Christmas hopes there and at HB.
- Another plea for veterans, this from Rob at THW.
Bridgeport
The Sound Tigers nabbed a come-from-behind win over Springfield -- Josh Bailey scored another goal -- and Michael Fornabaio's post-game blog is here. David Ullstrom is banged up but in a "soft tissue" kind of way. The Poulin Wall was in goal.
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A lot of great discussion happening around here, which is impressive when you consider the depths of this 1-win-in-18 binge. From WebBard's extensive look at the rebuild, to polls on what you would do if the Isles moved in 2015 and other FanPosts. Cheers to all of you commenters. (Okay, except for that guy over there.).
Separate game thread should be up tonight before game time, but you can leave your FIGs (First Islanders Goal pick) here, too. And if you're abstaining because the Islanders have done nothing but lose since we started the FIG pool, I understand.
My FIG: The Finn Named Jesse crashes the net at 13:58, Tavares bounces the puck off his butt and in, and we all go, "OMG, like Capuano is on to something here for real."
For those of you in the Northeast who finally get to watch an Isles game, I hope you bring us luck. Sorry about your announcers.
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TMC is at fault
She was in the Northwest for the last win, yet she defied orders to remain there. Basically, every time she complains about this team, she only has herself to blame.
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Maybe she should videotape
herself on vacation… and yell at her own TV, “WHY CAN’T YOU PLAY LIKE THIS ALL THE TIME!!!”
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FIG: Grabner @ 13:37
Carter, hand me my thinking grenades!
Hillen @ 22:16
OK guys, I’ll bite and will go with the Out of the Box pick. By the way, first time participant here. You’re running a great gig here, very insightful and not much panic (yet).
Welcome!
And thanks for joining. The next widespread panic is scheduled for 9:00 tonight.
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OIG: Grabner - 27:13
You should've seen her face. It was the exact same look my father gave me when I told him I wanted to be a ventriloquist.
Parentau 15:12
reaping the benefits of two of the better offensive players on the team. I wouldn’t be surprised if this is the beginning of the end for Nielsen being the number one checking option and becoming the number two scoring option… As a matter of fact if they slide somebody in for Gillies (either he sits or Comeau doubleshifts for him) they can really roll four… they just need to stay out of the box.
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Hamonic @15:00
It’s going to take some good bounces to wrack up goals on that goalie and I think Hamonic is good for a deflection off a D-Man (because we know none of our guys will be in front of the net).
There is a lighthouse at the end of the tunnel.
Enough of this FIGging nonsense
Amac 12:40
5-2 win tonight. I heard Rask was in net (not that it’s much of a drop off…but still)
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by Keith Quinn on Dec 9, 2010 3:59 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
not sure if it will be Frans but believe it will bve that line
if they do indeed mix it up with PA on it.
I still say I want Martin in front on the PP
Any task BIG or small, Do it well or not at all
by Rickfansince76 on Dec 9, 2010 4:17 PM EST up reply actions
Tie-breaker's tie-breaker
So who gets the FISG then? (Or is it still no one.)
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Wiz @ 24:13
Beware of open mics!!!!!
by ICanSeeForIslesAndIsles on Dec 9, 2010 6:22 PM EST up reply actions
FIG and lines
Is he really breaking up a line that was actually effective? Nielsen-Grabner-Joensuu actually played okay and looks like a good future third line. At least Parenteau isn’t wasting first-line time with soft play. (Now if only someone would please give Comeau the wrong directions to the arena….)
FIG: N/A. None tonight. I just don’t see any goals, especially after yet another long break between games and a goalie who stands on his head.
I think they were effective
But I suspect Frans-Grabner can survive it. PAP might even make that line better.
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It's a scary thought,
but the bruins have a good chance of giving us our 3rd shutout of the year. Frigging defense and goalies. Bad team to try and turn our offense around against to say the least, not to mention in the bruins arena too.
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FIG: Blowmeau at 3:42 of the second period.
Wow, Garth, Blake is really coming on.
Boy do we have a good team.
- Chuckles
Like this!
Because it’s actually his name!
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by Keith Quinn on Dec 9, 2010 4:01 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
3-2 OT win
Parenteau hits the net first….but I got a feeling JT is gonna rack up some points tonight! DP also comes up big
"(Okay, except for that guy over there.)"
I’m sorry, I’m sorry! It’s been a busy week, three 15 hour days plus my father’s 68th birthday! I’ll be back tonight, I promise!
Toying with the idea of recusing myself from the FIG and seeing what that does to our results on the ice. Superstition much?
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FIG
I’m not generally superstitious so my pick is still: RSH @ 12:20. I’ve been watching highlights of games almost everyday on NHL.com and Tim Thomas has been scary good. It is a toss-up who would win comeback player right now between Thomas and Price of Montreal. I hope Ricky comes up big tonight, I hope someones big ass sits in front of the net for us, I hope the PP clicks (for a change), and I hope for an Islander victory. SMACK!!! That was the dose of reality hitting me upside the head…but reality is in the eye of the beholder so I say GO, ISLES, GO!!!
What part of REBUILD don't you understand??
Who honestly wants to stand in front of the net and take a chara beating though?
That’s not an easy task, lol.
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Thomas
Did you all know he had surgery for a torn labrum over the summer? (Forgot to include that in the main post.) That gave me pause, and puts last year and his amazing start this year in a new context.
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No fair
How come his labrum surgery worked?
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by Keith Quinn on Dec 9, 2010 3:54 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
simple
They used a real hospital and doctor. Isles accidentally wandered into a Friends taping and let Joey Tribiani’s fake soap doctor do Rick’s operation.
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Explains his
Haircut also…Labrums and Quaffs two bits!
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by Keith Quinn on Dec 9, 2010 4:06 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
new mask too!
he trying a new design which allows for greater vision. Looks kinda silly but can’t argue with results!
Cheers to all of you commenters. (Okay, except for that guy over there.).
Be honest was it Bueller you were talking to or Spiccoli?
It was Cameron. The nerve to wear a Wings jersey in these parts…
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How about
Martin and Joensuu?? Only really big dudes we have with any talent. Besides, someone HAS to start screening goalies and cashing rebounds. How come every team in the league gets garbage goals in front except us??
What part of REBUILD don't you understand??
Scattered thoughts...
FIGs still falling all ove rthe yard. I guess it’s too much to keep them on one branch… I’ve had to wash my hands four times since I started reading the posts because my OCD has crept into my virtual life…
Positives since the coaching change:
Nielsen is getting more offensive time, and he’s showing that he can make things happen. It’s funny, but when came up we I used to see some nice vision and a solid offensive skill set. There was some early work with Bergie that was outstanding. I think we got all caught up in his defensive abilities and the playmaker got lost. I don’t know if that was Jack’s intention, or he just hasn’t mastered the MATCHUP aspect in the NHL yet… I only say that because the Konopka line has been left out to dry on several occasions. It could also be Grabner has been a plus, and Hunter’s absence… also a plus. (sorry to Trent fans… it had to be said)
Meritocracy. Sure, there hasn’t been too much to show for it, but there are signs of it. Bruno, before he became the poster boy for the NHL’s version of FACE OFF, he was playing well, and being rewarded with extra time. The one good thing about a new coach is that the slates are cleaned… that can also be a bad thing.
Goaltending… this may be due to the meritocracy, but the goaltending seems to be consistent with the talent we have. The system change has allowed for less odd man rushes, and both tenders (on most nights) can handle the shots they see. A-Mac and Jam on it Hamonic have helped out defensively as well.
Negatives
The turn around is going to take some time.
Jack has confidence in the players from the Bridge, so TMC may not see Doug Weight on the ice too often… hopefully he gets her xmas card and they can work something out.
Blake Effin Comeau… I soo want to be a fan of his… and all he has to do is keep his legs moving on every shift… It’s the same with JJ, but I expect so much more from Comeau… maybe that’s just on me and my expectations. But even I’ve been yelling at him on TV… and usually I just maintain the little dignity I have among family members and stifle those thoughts before they are verbalized.
Still losin… and who made up this schedule?
- I just found out that you can subscribe to LHH on Kindle. $.99/mo … besides Tequila Tuesday’s at Don Pepe’s it’s the best bargain I know ******
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FIGs still falling all ove rthe yard. I guess it’s too much to keep them on one branch… I’ve had to wash my hands four times since I started reading the posts because my OCD has crept into my virtual life
I know. For a game there we were doing so well. I guess I need to do a reminder in blinking letters each time. /washes hands
Re: Kindle. Ha, I’ve heard this from some of the other bloggers, all with the same reaction: Why would I pay for what I get free…and where does the money go?
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sorry, JP and Dom
I don’t normally get in here for the game and pre-game threads so I keep forgetting. Mine is way down – it’s not even labelled “FIG” either, because I’m a doofus. (FWIW: FIG – Moulson, 6:16, PP)
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/shakes head
One thing at a time. We know just mastering the link is challenging enough. We are HERE for you.
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by Dominik on Dec 9, 2010 4:04 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
HAHAHAHAHAHA
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It is me...
that should apologize… I was just looking for a subject to use for my silly OCD humor.
But… if we can keep order, it may allow me to squeeze the rest of this night out of my last bottle of Woodford. /leaves to wash hands.
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I know this is TMI...but... you asked.
Why would I pay for what I get free…
Lunch with LHH makes a much more efficient manager than 10-11:30 with LHH… or so I’ve been told. It’s also more portable, and I don’t have to fire up the laptop to check for new posts on non-game days. I give the guy in the restroom that makes sure the combs are fully emersed in the blue water… why wouldn’t I spend a buck on something I can use… (last time I used a comb was during the first Bush administration…
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This new world frightens me
Actually, on that note, if anyone has general feedback on when they like posts to appear, we’re always ears.
You always hear that morning, lunch and late afternoon are best times for new posts to draw traffic. But we also like to pamper our own randomly appearing work ethic far more than we like to orient content for the sake of traffic.
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Anytime works for me...
…as long as they are not more than 7 mins after the hour, or before the hour… or on Monday night’s between 9"PM and 10:PM…never DURING a Giant game, and if there are pictures of TMC with Doug Weight I must be called immediatley…
/ washes hands twice.
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poker night... to dvr or not to dvr...
The Poulin Wall was in goal.
need a better name, not that it’s bad, but it’s too close to that other goalies nickname…
completely off topic, i dont know why, but i typed cesspool into google, the first 3 were definitions, the next 2 were long island companies… now why would google ref me to L.I. when i search up cesspools?
NYI Hockey! We'll get that winless month yet!
Interesting fact..
..I’d have thought Staten Island was way ahead of Long Island for hits on Cesspool… and for that matter Frankfort KY would have been my first choice.
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they shutdown the Great Kills Landfill a decade ago.
They actually wanted to build a Nascar track on top of it in the last few years.
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Always DVR
If I can watch it live it gives me the option to go back for highlights while I wait for the terrible fluff in between periods to mercifully end… and if I don’t get to see it live you can watch a complete game in about 1:20… if it’s a blowout 30 mins.
Jack's not nimble, Jack's not quick, but Jack can get another top five pick!
DVR-ing: A new service from Lighthouse Hockey?
You know, we could set up an email alert list: Everyone DVR’s the game, and then LHH emails/texts you after the game — or even in the first period, in some cases — either:
- WATCH the game.
- Delete, delete, delete post haste.
- Do you have ironing to do? Then you can watch it.
I’m willing to offer it for 50 cents a night — that’s almost half the price of Kindle! Although the service is flawed, as you’d get a “WATCH!” text whenever Frans Nielsen scores in a 6-1 blowout loss.
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Interesting concept...
but… the only reason I DVR the games is so I can sell them to the CIA. Now that waterboarding is frowned upon by the Attorney General and the president they are always looking for new ways to torture terrorists. I get double when DP starts.
Jack's not nimble, Jack's not quick, but Jack can get another top five pick!
poker on thursday?
my poker nights are sat so we can p[lay till 2-3am
by Khan Noonien Singh on Dec 9, 2010 5:50 PM EST up reply actions
You can but I'm not sure how we tie-break that
There is a lighthouse at the end of the tunnel.
number of shots the Isles muster
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What about unmustered shots that nonetheless appear on the sheet?
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Or
Over under on Butch’s excuses for poor play.
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by Keith Quinn on Dec 9, 2010 4:10 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Gonna be there...
Living up north I’ve only been able to see the Isles live once or twice a year for the past few yeas. I’m pumped to be seeing them even if it’s likely that they’ll get rolled on.
hockey is a crazy game
I say that the Isles blow the doors off, out of nowhere. Some crazy 80’s throwback game like 8-6. FIG, Matty Ice @ 6:16… on the power play. (Yeah, I’m going there.)
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PS - may I, uh, "shout out"?
It’s the hip thing, I’m told. Just want to plug my man Ken at “”http://hockeygonewild.com/" target="new">Hockey Gone Wild" on the occasion of our Isles playing his Big Bad Bruins. He’s a good egg.
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Yes!
Shout out by all means. We need more references like that. I’m lazy, there are some nice Bruins blogs out there. I tend to link to SBN ones because it’s right there and usually they’ll have a thorough blog roll.
{looks at LHH blogroll…realizes it hasn’t been cleansed in a good long while}
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You should sort them by
Fired vs not fired
Too soon?
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by Keith Quinn on Dec 9, 2010 4:12 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Nope
Although still running vs. defunct might be the better option.
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by David Hanssen on Dec 9, 2010 4:13 PM EST up reply actions
Never too soon
Need to find a big red BANNED graphic.
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oh COME ON
This pop-up function for links is complete rubbish. Hockey Gone Wild. Sheesh.
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Looks like
Homeboy Ricky gets the start in his hometown with Ruuka Task, er I mean Ruusk Taka, whatever the Finn backing up Thomas’ name is starting for the B’s.
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heheheh
NHL goalie or Star Wars alien?
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Sorry about your announcers.
I’m seriously considering watching the B’s feed tonight just so I can either play Jack Edwards Bingo or create a Jack Edwards drinking game (Hint: I’m thinking you’d get smashed 2 minutes in to the 1st period).
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Every time I try to play Edwards bingo...
I end up having to buy a new TV the next day
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things have to start to gel
they have had a few long idle stretches lately, so Captian Jack’s plan has to start to come through
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Comeau interview with Bourne
At Puck Daddy. A little more confirmation of the “detailed” Gordon. On Tavares, Bailey, his own struggles.
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Just read it..
..and if you put it together with Brenad Witt’s appearance on SNY you get… THIS.
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Imagining Gordon's response
Take a washed-up (sadly) D-man who doesn’t realize it, and a kid with potential who won’t realize it, and you get this.
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I have to play devil's advocate here...
Witt… pretty respected NHL vet who yesterday we all loved. Today he was a washed up piece of crap. I can’t buy into that.
Comeau… has had success everywhere else… but is like everybody else on the team… Comeau isn’t the only guy playing in a fog most nights… if it was just him, I’d say you have a point.
We happen to be harping on Comeau because he has shown stretches of “getting it”… but why hasn’t anybody else “GOTTEN IT”
Perfect example is your boy Frans… why couldn’t he play with that level of creativity and productivity under scott gordon. Why? I have to specualte that scott said, “look at this X, this is you… be the X” Cappy says, “look at the X, you are the X, CONTROL THE X”
I watch my daughter’s (10) basketball team learn teh concept of playing, and playing against a zone defense. They are pretty well coached for a rec league team… but he doesn’t have time to explain the concept individually… so when they play they look like the old magntized football game that was based on a vibrating aluminum panel…
I think my daughter gets it because I’ve explained the general principle of ball movement to her… but when she gets out there she looks like one of the little plastic pieces.
That was a long way to go to try to explain that I really don’t think that Scott embraced the fact that these kids never bought into his system and HE needed to be more flexible. My daughter’s coach has started to dumb down his concepts and they look like the harlem globetrotters… they won’t win many games, but they won’t feel embarresed because they can’t get the ball over halfcourt either.
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in re: Witt
He was always a respected vet we loved. We still love him. We just don’t think he can play anymore, not like he did when he was first here. Tell Witter it’s nothing personal… we all like him…. it’s just business hockey.
(That being said? We could have treated him a lot better than a two-bit demotion to the AHL. That was bogus.)
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I think JP was arguing that witt would have been more effective/playing better in a non-gordon system, and I think that is an easily believable statement.
Just from watching, I see Witt going from a good top 4 in 07/08 to terrible under gordon in 08-09. Gordon’s system was made for fast offensive d-men and fast forwards, something witt was never. Not saying witt was gonna be great, but it’s hard for me to say Witt wouldn’t have been better in another system, and probably even useful. Not last year though, last year you could see it was all gone.
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Hmm...
I’m not turning on Witt though. There is now yesterday great, today piece of crap. Witt became just very bad, period. I loved him — I still do — and he’s probably right in several of his complaints about Gordon. (I don’t pick sides though when “personal vendetta” is mentioned, as I think that screams of an interpersonal issue where two sides do not see eye to eye.) I personally suspected and still do it was playing through all the “warrior” battles that slowed an already slow man down.
I waited on Witt till the end, it was painful to watch, but his figures were SO MUCH worse than his peers, and he is not the type I would figure to just be giving up, so I concluded he can’t get it done at this level. Combine that with very mixed reports from his stint in Bridgeport, and I think the man who already suffered from post-lockout hockey had lost his final step.
On the Gordon issue though, I mean yeah, we’ve got Comeau, Witt, Guerin…someone else I thought of today but can’t remember right now — that’s a lot of guys who had issues. It’s also a bad team, which tends to ferment issues, chicken or egg.
I do think Frans — and Comeau even — played with plenty of creativity at times under Gordon. Maybe the X’s eventually got to them, but they had their moments. Maybe those moments kept Gordon’s hope alive and made him inflexible, I don’t know.
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Thought of those
But I’m pretty sure I was thinking of someone I had a little more ahh…respect for in times of criticism.
I’m not really an authoritarian sort, but I do think team sports work best if everybody respects the coach and shuts up unless he’s an absolute tyrant. Since most coaches can only make so much of a difference IMO, it’s more important that everyone accept a role and play on the same page. But the biggest troubles often come from the guys who need a contract in the summer — and/or are facing the twilight years of their career — so suddenly the role they have maybe isn’t the most lucrative for their long-term future.
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Did sillinger not like him? Maybe Martinek?(probably not) Park?
I wanna figure out who you’re talking about! lol
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So I made a bit of an investment today
I was out shopping today and I discovered three Islanders shirts I needed to purchase. So for the grand sum of $3.50 a piece I am now the proud owner of a Mike York, a Janne Niinimaa and a Brent Sopel Islanders shirt. I couldn’t believe that A) These still existed and B) I would find them in of all places, Bloomington MN.
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I hear...
that TMC was looking for a Janne shirt.
BTW: isn’t it amazingly simple to use the link pop-up? /washes conscious
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Funny
This is exactly what went through my head when I found it on the rack: “I wonder how long it would take TMC to burn this?”
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After being fired as head coach, now a "Special Adviser" to Lighthouse Hockey
by David Hanssen on Dec 9, 2010 5:24 PM EST up reply actions
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Lighthouse Hockey - a beacon of greatness on the rocky coast of sports blog mediocrity
It was worth posting my drivel to get that link… That was the Shizzle my HansunFrizzle! - JPinVA
After being fired as head coach, now a "Special Adviser" to Lighthouse Hockey
by David Hanssen on Dec 9, 2010 6:29 PM EST up reply actions
Wow.
I guess places that love hockey just really love hockey. Like great music shops just having stuff you’d never dream was still around.
Lighthouse Hockey: No Streit, no Okposo...not that we particularly care.
Like this
and this
It was worth posting my drivel to get that link… That was the Shizzle my HansunFrizzle! - JPinVA
After being fired as head coach, now a "Special Adviser" to Lighthouse Hockey
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May 24, 1980: Tonelli to Nystrom. At long last, the steady build of the New York Islanders from expansion doormat to surprise semifinalist to annual contender reaches the promised land: Buoyed by a late season trade for Butch Goring that gave the team the depth up the middle GM Bill Torrey had been seeking, the Islanders knock off the Philadelphia Flyers in six games.
The victory justified the faith in coach Al Arbour who guided them from their second season to their first Stanley Cup seven seasons later. The Islanders would not be the first expansion team to win the Stanley Cup, but they would be the only one capable of a dynasty.
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May 21, 1981: This time it was much easier. After falling to "only" 91 points in the 1979-80 season, the Islanders returned to their division title tradition, piling up 110 points -- a whole 13 points over second-place Philadelphia.
Between the quarterfinals (where they beat the upstart Oilers in six games) and the finals, the Islanders reeled off eight consecutive wins -- with a four-game sweep of archrival Rangers in between. As they defeated the Minnesota North Stars in five games for their second Cup, their goal difference in the final was a combined +10.
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May 16, 1982: Another year, another landslide title. The Islanders won the Patrick Division by a whopping 26 points over the second-place Rangers, and were seven points clear of their nearest competition for the President's Trophy, the still-not-quite-ripe Edmonton Oilers.
A first-round scare against the Pittsburgh Penguins turned in the Isles' favor thanks to John Tonelli's heroics, and a true dynasty was on its way: Past the Rangers in six games, then an eight-game sweep of the Quebec Nordiques and Vancouver Canucks to run away with the Stanley Cup.
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May 17, 1983: Not so fast, whipper-snappers. The Edmonton Oilers' steadily rising challenge for league supremacy took them all the way to the finals for the first time, where the New York Islanders summarily dispatched them in a four-game sweep. For the Islanders, the Dynasty was secured. For the Oilers, it was a powerful lesson in where talent ends and the demands of playoff hockey begin.
Four years, four Cups, 16 consecutive playoff series wins (a record that would grow to 19 until the rematch with the Oilers the following year). Mike Bossy scored 60 goals yet again, and Wayne Gretzky became acquainted with Billy Smith's crease.
