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At some point the Devils have to start getting mocked more than the Isles. They are even with the Isles on points, loaded with stars, have one of the top 5 players in the league and they are inches from the salary cap.

We need another win tonight!

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Really?

Guy was only given what, 30+ games? Given the state of injuries and the team Lou gave him, that’s really rough on Maclean. No way can you blame the coach for that.

by Fabtraption on Dec 23, 2010 11:33 AM EST reply actions  

Gotta love the timing

I’m sure the idea is that they have a “patsy” opponent on the second night of a back to back. If they win here before the holidays it could springboard some momentum. We better come out with some fire tonight!

"Gervais...he looks danger in the fist with his face!" JPinVA

by Keith Quinn on Dec 23, 2010 11:36 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

I had the same exact thought.

"My lasting image of Lemieux interacting with an Islanders defenseman is of Mario getting knocked on his ass by Darius Kasparaitis in 1993." - rmblifn #VolekStatue
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by Mark D on Dec 23, 2010 11:57 AM EST up reply actions  

I’m just really glad I saved my satire post for late morning so that I could include this lovely update.

(Yes, I’m only thinking of myself.)

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by Dominik on Dec 23, 2010 1:48 PM EST up reply actions  

I think this move came because, for the first time, they are legitimately 30th in the league.

Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)

by TheMetalChick on Dec 23, 2010 2:13 PM EST up reply actions  

preposterous

Poor Johnny Mac. And this was after all that “his job is safe” crapola in the papers. Kiss of death, right there.

If I were Lemaire I’d tell Lou, “You put the team together, YOU coach them.”

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by mikb on Dec 23, 2010 11:36 AM EST reply actions  

That’s the one upside to the Gordon firing, at least Snow didn’t go to the press and say “His job is safe”

"My lasting image of Lemieux interacting with an Islanders defenseman is of Mario getting knocked on his ass by Darius Kasparaitis in 1993." - rmblifn #VolekStatue
Contributor to Lighthouse Hockey not sure if I'm the Sniper or the Enforcer.

by Mark D on Dec 23, 2010 11:57 AM EST up reply actions  

His job is safe

Just like Fredo’s

It was worth posting my drivel to get that link… That was the Shizzle my HansunFrizzle! - JPinVA

After being fired as head coach, now a "Special Adviser" to Lighthouse Hockey

by David Hanssen on Dec 23, 2010 12:26 PM EST up reply actions  

First FIG entry

Tavares (2 in a row) will get his first of three at 8:11. Breakout game tonight. Let me know how it goes – at 8:30 I’m changing over to the Steelers game!

Merry Christmas.

by martylnd on Dec 23, 2010 11:42 AM EST reply actions  

Maybe you’ll be back at about 8:45 when the Steelers are already up 21-0

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by Pauly C on Dec 23, 2010 12:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Everyone put your FIG's in the gameday thread! Not here or we will probably miss them.

John Tavares=The Franchise, The Future, and still only 20yrs old, SO GIVE HIM SOME F**KING TIME TO MATURE CRITICS! Not everyone is Wayne Gretzky(although Tavares did break some of his records....tee hee)

by OzzyFan on Dec 23, 2010 1:40 PM EST up reply actions  

- just thought I'd pass this along.....

…..moseyed on over to IPB and, with a few exceptions, the mood there is much better than in a while…..

by ogam5 on Dec 23, 2010 12:23 PM EST reply actions  

The comments section on IPB is a bipolar wasteland.

25% comments praising the team, 75% kissing Botta’s ass.

That’s what happens when the team is playing well.

by Fabtraption on Dec 23, 2010 12:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Starter tonight

@NYIslanders Jack Capuano said Dwayne Roloson will be starting in net for #Isles tonight at the Prudential Center.

by Fabtraption on Dec 23, 2010 12:54 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

Yes!

John Tavares=The Franchise, The Future, and still only 20yrs old, SO GIVE HIM SOME F**KING TIME TO MATURE CRITICS! Not everyone is Wayne Gretzky(although Tavares did break some of his records....tee hee)

by OzzyFan on Dec 23, 2010 1:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Too late. Maclean should have been fired a month ago.

And aside from the parise injury, you really can’t say he was dealing with terrible circumstances. Maybe Volchenkov and Brodeur’s injuries had a little impact, but do them both missing a couple weeks equal X more losses? Hedberg actually has a better save percentage then brodeur, so what does that tell me. Maybe the couple early games where they couldn’t ice a full team hurt a little, but that was only a couple games. Their payroll is still sky high with parise hurt, and they have created their own roster problems. On paper, this is a team that should be better then the last year devils that won the division(sans parise). Coaching change needed, let’s see if they can still play like a playoff team they should be able to play like. But the way everyone overall has been playing, it looks bad for them.

John Tavares=The Franchise, The Future, and still only 20yrs old, SO GIVE HIM SOME F**KING TIME TO MATURE CRITICS! Not everyone is Wayne Gretzky(although Tavares did break some of his records....tee hee)

by OzzyFan on Dec 23, 2010 1:05 PM EST reply actions  

I come here with kindness and I don't want to start anything but....
At some point the Devils have to start getting mocked more than the Isles.

Really? The Islanders have been bad since?? The Devils who have made the playoffs every year for 13 years straight and have one bad bad year deserve more making fun of? I mean you guys have been rebuilding since that last series with Buffalo and still you haven’t gotten into the playoffs as an 8th seed. I agree the Devils should be mocked by their play. But to say they should be mocked more then the Islanders questions me. I wish you good luck tonight. Since there’s no point in this season I’ll be rooting for the Isles so the Devils can get Adam Larsson. Good luck.

By the age of 18, the average American has witnessed 200,000 acts of violence on television, most of them occurring during Game 1 of the NHL playoff series. -Steve Rushin

by Zucs on Dec 23, 2010 3:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh man, if that line bugged you

…then you’ll really love our parody of Brooks’ save the Isles column, which uses the Devils’ plight as the foil.

Don’t take it so seriously; the Isles get piled on in the pundits’ paint-by-numbers book because of the history you cite (though the rebuild didn’t begin until 2008) without regard to which details are relevant. So the venting is more: If this Isles season elicits such derision, WTF does that make the Devils, with the same points and practically 50% more payroll?

Lighthouse Hockey: And you shall know us by the fraying of our hips.

by Dominik on Dec 23, 2010 3:45 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

I knew

you should have surrounded that entire post in @’s!

Hey, when is the Devils draft pick penalty? Is it this year or next year? I would love a Maple Leafesque cellar dwelling first round fail for our hockey buds.

"Gervais...he looks danger in the fist with his face!" JPinVA

by Keith Quinn on Dec 23, 2010 4:15 PM EST up reply actions  

The next 5 years

They (Devils) can choose a first round pick to give them anytime in the next 5.

By the age of 18, the average American has witnessed 200,000 acts of violence on television, most of them occurring during Game 1 of the NHL playoff series. -Steve Rushin

by Zucs on Dec 23, 2010 4:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Wow

Lucky…but still, it looks like a first overall that could actually make the team may be a problem with the max contrat due to the cap right? You actually may be better off trading it for more picks for lower price so if you need them for lineup space, you can actually use them without violating the cap…all of which may only apply to the current CBA.

Sorry, didn’t mean to wish hockey misery upon your franchise, but we loves us some company down here, and as we know, the further you fall, the funnier it is!

"Gervais...he looks danger in the fist with his face!" JPinVA

by Keith Quinn on Dec 23, 2010 4:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh I know.

I was at the Devils Red Wings game last week and I called the Cleary second goal. I laughed so hard… I’d rather keep our pick. If we can get an NHL ready defenseman that is compared to a Nick Lidstrom I’m taking it. Instead of a few 2nd and 3rd round picks that don’t mean anything for next year and this draft seems like the weakest past pick number 10. I think guys like Arnott, Langenbrunner, and maybe Elias will be traded. Even White. For a couple 3rd or 4th round picks this year or next year. Elias may take back a good young prospect. But with the all NTC’s and NMC’s given out like candy its going to be harder.

By the age of 18, the average American has witnessed 200,000 acts of violence on television, most of them occurring during Game 1 of the NHL playoff series. -Steve Rushin

by Zucs on Dec 23, 2010 4:35 PM EST up reply actions  

I know and I now I'm starting to feel for you guys but..

The Devils have been compared to the Wings in the last 13 years. One bad year and there written off with the Islanders. I have a lot of respect for the Isles, my dad was an Isle fan back in the 70’s and 80’s but the Devils are on a different scale then the Islanders. To the payroll. Kovalchuk was a good signing and I don’t look back on it. He may not be producing this year (as with the other 11 players) but do you think he’ll be the same next year? Volchenkov was a good signing but I think we overpayed for him. Yet this team needed him in the summer. Tallinder. Well we don’t know. I’ll get back to you on that. The team has a lot of salary on it but mostly because of the playoff teams we used to have. But mostly the high salary comes from Rolston, Arnott, Elias, Langenbrunner, and White. All over the age of 30.

By the age of 18, the average American has witnessed 200,000 acts of violence on television, most of them occurring during Game 1 of the NHL playoff series. -Steve Rushin

by Zucs on Dec 23, 2010 4:30 PM EST up reply actions  

The Devils have been compared to the Wings in the last 13 years. One bad year and there written off with the Islanders…

OH PLEASE.
Ever hear of Yashin? The Isles STILL HEAR IT about Yash, and he was a helluva lot more productive on the Isles than Kovalchuk has been on the Devils.

Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)

by TheMetalChick on Dec 23, 2010 5:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Volchenkov was a good signing but I think we overpayed for him. Yet this team needed him in the summer.

Yes, you did overpay. By a lot. I would rather have Jurcina, Martinek and MacDonald all for half the cap hit Volchenkov has. Hell, I’ll even throw in Gervais, Hillen and Hamonic to make it even in terms of cap hits.

It was worth posting my drivel to get that link… That was the Shizzle my HansunFrizzle! - JPinVA

After being fired as head coach, now a "Special Adviser" to Lighthouse Hockey

by David Hanssen on Dec 23, 2010 5:44 PM EST up reply actions  

He may not be producing this year (as with the other 11 players) but do you think he’ll be the same next year?

No, I don’t, but I also don’t think he’ll ever be worth that term or commitment. Maybe the next CBA allows wiggle room, or maybe revenues and cap room skyrockets, or maybe he retires early, but I would under no circumstances have ever made such a commitment to that player. (I didn’t agree with the Yashin or DiPietro deals either, FWIW.)

Lighthouse Hockey: And you shall know us by the fraying of our hips.

by Dominik on Dec 23, 2010 10:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Kovalchuk could end up being the stupidest signing ever. He can score, but once that scoring drops off in his early-mid 30's(or earlier), he will become the 20goal/40pts(rolston) scoring $6.66mil/yr 2nd/3rd line forward pp-specialist till he's 42.

Enjoy the downfalls of long contracts. DP is great example of that with injury problems, redden an example of that with aging problems.

John Tavares=The Franchise, The Future, and still only 20yrs old, SO GIVE HIM SOME F**KING TIME TO MATURE CRITICS! Not everyone is Wayne Gretzky(although Tavares did break some of his records....tee hee)

by OzzyFan on Dec 24, 2010 1:29 AM EST up reply actions  

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