Bridgeport and Prospect Roundup 11/22
by Mark D on Nov 22, 2010 12:30 PM EST
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PrintThe Soundtigers had a good week, taking two of three this week under new Coach Pat Bingham. Robin Figren [Katic, Motherwell] Rhett Rakhshani [Sim] Jeremy Colliton [Blight, Svendsen] and the OT GWG Tony Romano [Motherwell] on Friday against Providence. Kevin Poulin got the start, although he gave up 3 goals, he had 43 saves and none of the goals would have been considered soft. BP lost the following night to Manchester 1-0, but Nathan Lawson had a good game in net, finishing with 26 saves on 27 shots. BP Shutout Portland 3-0, with Figren [O'Neil] Jon Sim x2 [Hamonic, Motherwell] and [Figren, Landry] while Poulin was a perfect 29 of 29.
Injuries to the defense in Bridgeport is the story too. With Dylan Reese called up and Wotton hurting, Dustin Kohn and Mark Katic ended up playing 28 minutes a piece against Providence. Now with Kohn and Katic are both nursing injuries, leaving Mark Wotton [would need an NHL contract and clear waivers] (who played Sunday while hurt) Travis Hamonic and Anton Klementyev as the only defensemen the Islanders can call up. It looks like Mikko Kosikinen, Poulin and Nathan Lawson are all in for a fun stretch of games.
Natural Born Kirills
Kirill Petrov continues to cool off, playing two more games this week but posting no points and a -1. He seems to be stuck at 4 goals 6 assists in 18 games now and a -1.
Kirill Kabanov came to life (From BCISLEMAN) putting up a goal and two assists against the League Leading Quebec Ramparts. He was also named the first star of the game for Lewiston, and now has 1 goal and 3 assists in 6 games for them and a +4.
WHL, OHL, NCAA and Europe
Nino Niederreiter was a beast this week as Portland won 3 of 4 games as they posted 16 goals in the three wins. A goal and assist vs Moose Jaw on Monday, a goal and assist vs David Toews' Wheat Kings on Tuesday along with the First Star and two goals against Kamloops and another 1st star. Nino has 12 points (6 G, 6 A) in 12 games back with a +5. A poll of who will win the Winterhawks division on the WHL site has them at 70%. [Video: Nino Goal Vs Wheat Kings]
It was a tough week for David Toews, including the game against Portland, he finished the week with just one assist and a -5. He has 11 points (4 G, 7 A) in 15 games so far this year.
The Oshawa Generals played 3 games this week, winning all 3 and managing a total of 20 goals this week. Calvin De Haan added 3 assists and Tony Dehart got 2 assists. For the year De Haan has 19 points (2 G, 17 A) in 18 games. DeHart has 12 points (1 G, 11 A) in 22 games.
Casey Cizikas and Mississauga played 3 games this week winning all 3. Cizikas had 3 assists and was named second star in a game. He has 21 games played and 25 points [12 G, 13 A] on the season. [Cizikas Goal at the Subway Series between OHL and KHL at 4:25]
Anders Lee of Notre Dame played two games this week, notching another goal. He continues to lead Notre Dame in goals scored. 13 GP, 9 G, 2 A, 11 Points [Lee Goal Vs Michigan]
The University of Denver and Matt Donovan played two games this week. He added a goal and an assist to his season totals, 14 GP, 4 G, 6 A, 10 Points. [Donovan post game interview]
UND played back to back games against 4th ranked Nebraska Omaha this weekend, splitting the series with a 6-5 win and a 1-0 loss. Jason Gregoire was held off the score sheet, but true freshman Brock Nelson added an assist. Gregoire has 14 GP, 4 G, 6 A, 10 Points so far and Nelson has 14 GP, 1 G, 4 A, 5 Points. Also remember to get your Fightin' Sioux gear before it disappears forever.
Jason Clark and Wisconsin played back to back games against Minnesota-Duluth. Although Wisconsin dropped both games in OT, Clark put up his first point of the season with an assist on the first night.
Minnesota played Michigan Tech this weekend. With Minnesota eking out a 6-4 win on the first night against what should have been a pushover, rumors are swirling about Minnesota Coach Don Lucia. Maybe if he goes Snow can finally convince Ness to sign with the Islanders. Aaron Ness did have a good weekend, putting up an assist in each game. He now has 7 assists in 12 games.
Corey Trivino notched 2 assists in 2 games for Boston U this week. So far this season he has 2 G, 5 A, 7 Points in 10 games. [Highlights from BU Vs UNH]
Colgate played two games this week. Brian Day notched a goal, putting him at 5 G, 3 A, 8 Points in 10 games.
Shane Sims and OSU did not play this week. He's still at 11 GP, 1 G, 7 A, 8 Points.
Blake Kessel added an assist this week. He's now at 11 GP, 1 G, 7 A, 8 Points. [Highlights from UNH Vs BU]
Anders Nilsson and Lulea did not have a good week. They lost both games, giving up 4 goals in each. Nilsson gave up 4 goals on 24 shots to lose the game in OT. Thankfully the other goalie Rautio did not look much better giving up 4 goals in the next game on 23 shots. [Video: Lulea in Black]
Cody Rosen is still 3rd on the depth chart for Clarkson University and has yet to see the ice after 12 games.
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Free Cody Rosen!
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Okay, Now that sounds like an idea for an LHH t-shirt.
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I live not far from Clarkson U
The radio station where I work sometimes broadcasts Clarkson games so maybe I’ll get a chance to check Rosen out.
The New York Islanders....they make opposing goalies look gooooood.
ok, so did snow get caught with this kids’ mom or something? i mean, i know he was the last pick, but there is literally 0.01% chance this kid sniffs the nhl…
i didnt think college teams even carried 3 goalies…
NTIPC, but you can buy tix for wed's game for $7 on stubhub... ... 7$ freaking dollars
Cody’s a Sophmore, and the other two are Juniors, so there should be a chance of him starting next year. The current starter is a former 7th round pick of the Blues, so they might sign him.
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Clarkson's coach and goalies
I was a student at SUNY Oswego when current Clarkson University hockey coach George Roll was the head coach of Oswego’s hockey team, the Great Lakers. If I recall correctly, Roll tended to dress and play the goalies with more seniority on the team. I’m assuming it’s a similar case at Clarkson.
Thanks WebBard
These roundups are great, thanks for putting in the effort.
Having been born in Bridgeport, however, I can tell you that you’d instantly earn a bit of local street cred in Father Panik Village if you’d refer to Bridgeport as BPT, not BP. The Sound Tigers arena, incidentally, is a fantastic place to see a hockey game for those yearning for some competitive live hockey contemplating a trip.
wow, that was an interesting read, thanks!
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Wotton
In order for the Isles to call him up, they would have to sign him to an NHL contract. Right now he’s on an AHL Veterans contract with Bridgeport, so he would have to sign at least a two-way deal at the league minimum in order to be called up.
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Thanks, fixing it, I got him confused with Mark Flood who did get called up last year.
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Of course, there's the unthinkable
The Isles could smash the emergency glass and trade for Sheldon Souray….
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Bring back Branislav Mezei
How far the former 1st rounder has fallen, he’s now playing in the Czech league
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It could be worse
He could be former Wild 1st rounder AJ Thelan, who is now playing for Kalamazoo and has played in a total of 10 games above the ECHL, all in the AHL.
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by David Hanssen on Nov 22, 2010 2:23 PM EST up reply actions
Kristian Kudroc!
“”http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=5527" target="new">Kudroc styrka ligger i det defensiva spelet och spelet framför eget mål."
You can’t say that about just anyone!
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aw hell
Nice preview, dummy. This is the link.
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At least Kudroc and Mezei are playing the top leagues in their respective countries. Thelan is the only player from the 2004 1st round to not play in an NHL game. Hell, at least Al Montoya is a serviceable AHL goalie, Thelan isn’t even a serviceable AHL defenseman.
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by David Hanssen on Nov 22, 2010 2:32 PM EST up reply actions
ahh, I actually thought Mezei was Russian.
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Nope, the “pride” of Nitra, Slovakia. Also the home of another former Milbury bust, Juraj Kolnik.
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by David Hanssen on Nov 22, 2010 2:50 PM EST up reply actions
Nope, the "pride" of Nitra, Slovakia
Buncha mountain peasants…
Lighthouse Hockey: You say that like Streit and Okposo and MacDonald were important.
Well, they do have that nifty church to St. Stephen… (Thank God for Wikipedia)
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by David Hanssen on Nov 22, 2010 6:14 PM EST up reply actions
Disclaimer
I have neither been to Nitra nor seen its church, and I mean no harm to the Slovakian mountain peasants people other than a little intra-Slavic brotherly rivalry.
Prague > Bratislava FTW!!!1
Lighthouse Hockey: You say that like Streit and Okposo and MacDonald were important.
Totally Understand
Coming from the whole Scandinavian animosity, you know with the Swedes being cowards (A thousand Swedes running through the weeds), the Danes being lazy and fat and the Finns being, well… Finns, I know what you’re talking about.
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by David Hanssen on Nov 23, 2010 12:05 AM EST up reply actions
Fins are easily the most peculiar people I’ve ever run into, at least online.
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true
I just knew Kudroc off the top of my head since the Isles drafted him. =P
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Party like it's 1999
So the Isles had 4 first rounders that year, Tim Connelly, Taylor Pyatt, Mezei and Kudroc. Way to go Milbury, way to go…
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by David Hanssen on Nov 22, 2010 2:51 PM EST up reply actions
It didn’t help that in another one of his genius moves he tossed just about all of them into the fire.
Oh and he also claimed that 00-01 team was going to get to the playoffs or it would be his head. Clearly Conolly and Pyatt were part of the reason they missed it that year.
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It was his head every year, wasn't it?
I picture Wang blasting it off repeatedly like K did to Jeebes, only to have it grow back.
Hmmmm…. actually kind of a fun image.
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This was the first time it was or his head. Originally he said they had a 5 year plan they were going to stick to. In the 3rd year they were going to make the playoffs. Since you can’t miss the playoffs in the 3rd year and still expect to win the Cup, thus came the Linden trade and him putting himself back behind the bench.
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Maybe I have it wrong
but I thought the beheading suggestion was first used with the Kvasha trade. If I’m wrong I’ll gladly edit my sig.
"I think we got the better Lindros." - Fulla Maloney; "If I'm wrong about Kvasha, then off with my head" - Voldemort; "I find your lack of positive press disturbing" - Garth Vader
He probably said it about Kvasha, but here’s the actual quote about the playoffs
“If we are not better immediately….and if we are not a playoff team in the near future then it’s off with my damn head.” (6/25/00)
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Milbury
Is It too late to take Milbury’s head off?
by Isle Of Weight on Nov 22, 2010 4:28 PM EST up reply actions
In order to fully excorcize Milbury
We must bury his head at least 3,000 miles from his body so that they won’t rejoin.
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by David Hanssen on Nov 22, 2010 8:35 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
preferably in the Mariana Trench
along with the other decepticons
by Zhora on Nov 23, 2010 1:39 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
if I understand things right De Haan has to stay there all season
he can not be called up or brought to Bridgeport
I don’t really understand all the rules with prospects
Any task BIG or small, Do it well or not at all
I don’t 100% either, but it’s a talent agreement between the the North American Juniors and the NHL.
de Haan can be called up to the Islanders, but they can’t send him down to BP. Same with Nino.
If we for example had drafted Nino from a European league, we could have brought him over and signed him to play with BP.
It’s so the Junior leagues don’t get drained of talent, and it keeps jobs for a lot of borderline AHL guys.
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also
If a player’s rights are held by the CHL, then they have to be returned to juniors before they turn 20. This applies to foreign prospects as well. So if Larsson (for example) had been drafted by Barrie (for the sake of argument), and he came to NA as a teen, he could stick with the Isles or go to Barrie – but he could NOT got to the Bridge. (Not sure, in this case, if he could go back to Sweden. I think so, since it’s not part of the NHL/CHL agreement – he could just sign a pro contract.)
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Sweden Option
Yes, if he signed an entry level with the Isles and did not make the team, he could then be loaned to a club in Europe. The Isles have actually done this in the past, specifically with Robin Figren. That situation was a bit different, he was 20 at the time and did not want to return to the WHL as an overaged player but there are plenty of examples league-wide of players signing then being loaned back to their parent European club. Some examples are Anton Rodin and Petter Andersson with Vancouver and Karl Klingberg with the Thrashers. All signed entry level deals and were loaned back to their respective Eltiserien teams.
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by David Hanssen on Nov 22, 2010 2:28 PM EST up reply actions
It’s so the Junior leagues don’t get drained of talent, and it keeps jobs for a lot of borderline AHL guys.
Correct, it is basically in place so the CHL doesn’t loose its talent. Overall there are fairly strict rules on who can populate an AHL roster. They can only have five skaters who have played over 320 AHL games dressed at a time, so that protects the roster spots of many of the younger players as well (Right now the Sound Tigers have Wotton, Colliton, Sim, Hilbert and Yablonski, but with Hilbert injured they have some wiggle room there). So basically thats why most guys who don’t get into the NHL after 3-4 years in the AHL tend to go overseas unless they’re kept around for their leadership (Wotton), fighting (Mitch Fritz, Rob Skrlac, Yablonski), or crazy good AHL scoring ability (Parenteau, Keith Aucoin, Alex Giroux).
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by David Hanssen on Nov 22, 2010 8:34 PM EST up reply actions
with 30 AHL teams now, more veteran jobs are open
The reserve list limits how many players an NHL team can have contracted; and the age, waiver, and veteran limits control how players move to and from the AHL from the parent clubs. It helps keep jobs for those “4-A” players (Vladimir Orszagh and Jason Krog), and it also means the richer NHL teams can’t endlessly bury their mistakes. Slats and the Rags, for example, can exile Redden to the Wolfpack…. but they can’t just collect guys and then exile them, counting on their salary to scare off waiver claims when they’re recalled. They wouldn’t all get playing time in the AHL, and even if they were under the 320 game limit, soon the Rags would reach their maximum number of players under contract (currently 50) and be unable to sign anyone else – their own draft picks, for example.
It helps everyone. AHL teams usually have a space for a guy who knows he’s never going to hold an NHL job, but who loves the game and contributes to the development of younger players while doing what he loves. Wotton is much like this. The Isles are lucky that he’s part of the Bridgeport organization and does so much for their defense prospects.
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correction
Missing word. Should read “…can’t just ENDLESSLY collect guys and then exile them…”
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Donovan
Man could we use this guy right now. I caught his goal on TV against BSU. He read the play great, coming down the slot taking a pass and driving it home with a guy on his back. He cheats in really well which is a key asset in the ‘new’ NHL. His assist was a deflection off his shot.
There is a lighthouse at the end of the tunnel.
Looks good
The future is looking good. Thats something thats easy to forget right now. pretty exciting to think about. Happy to see Kabanov is doing well with the new team
agreed
Unfortunately I think we lack the vets to help ease the transition from minors to NHL. Going straight youth was an honest effort by Snow but I think we can see that it hasn’t been quite right (bit of an understatement). We need a few players with experience that have have been around the block, suffered through losing streaks, and can mentor these young inexperienced kids and help them cope with what they’re feeling right now.
by 54_Fighting on Nov 22, 2010 8:09 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
On the bright side though, as these kids get older so do JT/Bailey/Okposo/Frans and the rest. So hopefully by the time they are ready for the NHL they can be eased in.
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and hopefully this "high character" stuff pays off
Meaning that Bailey, KO, JT, etc don’t all buy tickets out of LaGuardia at their earliest opportunity. Sometimes I worry because Wang has been known to play hardball with RFAs. Honestly, it would be a mortal blow to go through another round of watching our prospects turn into stars in other cities, the way Bertuzzi, Luongo, Chara, etc. did.
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Threatening hate mail will be in store for wang if he lets KO or JT go.
Bailey possibly, but he hasn’t shown enough yet to warrant the type of hate mail wang would get if he let KO or JT go as RFA.
Go isles or Go home.
I’m a day late and a dollar short on my reply, but lets not forget sometimes it can be a long road to being a full fledged NHL forward, Jokinen didn’t break out till his 4th or 5th year for example.
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May 24, 1980: Tonelli to Nystrom. At long last, the steady build of the New York Islanders from expansion doormat to surprise semifinalist to annual contender reaches the promised land: Buoyed by a late season trade for Butch Goring that gave the team the depth up the middle GM Bill Torrey had been seeking, the Islanders knock off the Philadelphia Flyers in six games.
The victory justified the faith in coach Al Arbour who guided them from their second season to their first Stanley Cup seven seasons later. The Islanders would not be the first expansion team to win the Stanley Cup, but they would be the only one capable of a dynasty.
1980-81
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May 21, 1981: This time it was much easier. After falling to "only" 91 points in the 1979-80 season, the Islanders returned to their division title tradition, piling up 110 points -- a whole 13 points over second-place Philadelphia.
Between the quarterfinals (where they beat the upstart Oilers in six games) and the finals, the Islanders reeled off eight consecutive wins -- with a four-game sweep of archrival Rangers in between. As they defeated the Minnesota North Stars in five games for their second Cup, their goal difference in the final was a combined +10.
1981-82
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May 16, 1982: Another year, another landslide title. The Islanders won the Patrick Division by a whopping 26 points over the second-place Rangers, and were seven points clear of their nearest competition for the President's Trophy, the still-not-quite-ripe Edmonton Oilers.
A first-round scare against the Pittsburgh Penguins turned in the Isles' favor thanks to John Tonelli's heroics, and a true dynasty was on its way: Past the Rangers in six games, then an eight-game sweep of the Quebec Nordiques and Vancouver Canucks to run away with the Stanley Cup.
1982-83
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May 17, 1983: Not so fast, whipper-snappers. The Edmonton Oilers' steadily rising challenge for league supremacy took them all the way to the finals for the first time, where the New York Islanders summarily dispatched them in a four-game sweep. For the Islanders, the Dynasty was secured. For the Oilers, it was a powerful lesson in where talent ends and the demands of playoff hockey begin.
Four years, four Cups, 16 consecutive playoff series wins (a record that would grow to 19 until the rematch with the Oilers the following year). Mike Bossy scored 60 goals yet again, and Wayne Gretzky became acquainted with Billy Smith's crease.
