Bring Back Cap'n Billy, Me Buckos!
by BCISLEMAN on Nov 21, 2010 3:39 PM EST
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The New York Islanders have finally embraced the new NHL. By that I mean they are following the recipe put forth by the past two Stanley Cup Champions the Penguins and the Blackhawks. Guerin has already been in a Islander uniform once why not go back for seconds? With a young core of Tavares, Moulson and Okposo it could really benefit the Islanders and their young core to have a seasoned veteran by their side.
The consensus of the blog seems to be that the playoffs are out of the picture, but that something needs to be done both to improve the product on the ice and to help our young prospects grow.
That was supposed to be Doug Weight's job, but he is increasingly regarded as a liability on the ice. He certainly does not seem to be up to playing on one of the top two lines.
What to do then? Some have suggested a trade. Apart from the fact that a trade would mean giving up assets that we cannot spare, no one wants to trade right now. At the recent GMs meeting, there was all of one--count em--one minor trade between the Habs and the Avs and for the life of me, I could not tell you the players' names much less anything about them.
Not hard to figure out why. The teams that are struggling do not want to anger fans by running up the white ensign this early in the season. The teams that are not want all of their veteran talent so that they can keep winning. Some teams, like the Bruins, Canucks, and Devils, do have cap issues, but can and are deferring them because of players on LTIR. This is unlikely to change before late January and early February by which time it will be a largely futile gesture which will, again, cost this team assets it cannot spare.
The answer may be bringing back Billy Guerin. As the quote above reflects, he has been here before and knows a lot of the guys. He knows what it takes to win and will demand accountability. Plus it was my understanding that the main rub for him was Gordo who is no longer in the room.
If anyone has any other suggestions, feel free to share.
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I am not going to advocate it
Although I honestly do not hate the idea.
I just think the Isles could get someone more in their prime, if only they were willing to give up anything in a trade.
Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)
Me neither
I doubt he’d come anyway, but he wasn’t a tremendous help on a worse team two years ago and he’s kind of been kept on life-support by playing with Crosby. I mean it’s great if you can score next to Crosby for cheap, but we don’t have anything like that.
Plus, people pine about Weight’s body not holding up; selfishly I wouldn’t look forward to two Old Men taking nightly scapegoat honors.
Lighthouse Hockey: You say that like Streit and Okposo and MacDonald were important.
Plus, people pine about Weight’s body not holding up…
Pine about Weights body, huh? I could pine about Weights body all the time, albeit not in the way youre implying. Would that be preferable? Can I petition the Isles to give Doug a Baileyesque working out half naked in chains commercial while they still can?
selfishly I wouldn’t look forward to two Old Men taking nightly scapegoat honors.
LMAO!
Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)
by TheMetalChick on Nov 22, 2010 12:18 AM EST up reply actions
Sigh.
I didnt think any of you would rally around my Weight workout commercial idea.
I just figured maybe you’d think about the children…
Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)
by TheMetalChick on Nov 22, 2010 12:26 PM EST up reply actions
Even I can admit Weight is a handsome man
Those eyes, that smile, that shadow… /shakes self
Lighthouse Hockey: You say that like Streit and Okposo and MacDonald were important.
hells yeah.
I wish the Isles brought him in 10y ago.
Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)
by TheMetalChick on Nov 22, 2010 8:18 PM EST up reply actions
Isn't one bad Islander commercial at a time bad enough...
I’m getting a little sick of watching Garth Snow in his old Isle uni and pads throwing Chris Botta (played by a guy with hair) out of his beach chair….
The next Isle commercial should be a re-enactment from this movie…
To Wang, ew!…with love Sanjay Kumar!!!
Jack's not nimble, Jack's not quick, but Jack can get another top five pick!
by JPinVA on Nov 22, 2010 5:37 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
There are veterans in the Isles' room now...
Two of them have been to Cup Finals. Billy probably still has some game…probably more than Dougie does. Would he help this team to gel? Don’t know.
Bottom line though, he’s probably about the best the Isles can get from outside the organization right now and I do believe that he’d come if Garth asked him to…especially now that Gordo’s gone.
If Garth doesn’t want to go this route, he is just going to have to let the room sort things out as best it can. He might do some Bridgeport callups and there is always the chance that some team will let somebody go on waivers who might be useful. But probably what is out there is what there’s going to be for the balance of the season.
Is Satan still unsigned?
I’d rather bring him in, a guy who knows how to score goals and has been a heck of sniper over his career if we really want goal scoing help, especially considering how well he did in the playoffs and the last couple seasons active. Guerin’s #’s last year with the crosby/malkin pens just tell me to stay away from him.
Go isles or Go home.
Satan doesn't sign with you....
you sign with Satan
a profound return... i still love sammy octoberfest :-)
by bob l on Nov 22, 2010 12:45 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
So far the answers haven't been
JT, a healthy DP, an improved D, maturity, stellar goaltending, firing the coach, Jesus, Jobu, scratching Gillies, demoting Sim, or bringing up Martin and Joensuu. I’m pretty sure adding a 40 year old who last I remember it had Trent Hunter speed and isn’t in game shape isn’t going to help.
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by Keith Quinn on Nov 22, 2010 8:17 AM EST via mobile reply actions
i understand the thought,
but at this point… no point in bringing him in, unless you want to
have him, weight and hunter form the molasses line?
a profound return... i still love sammy octoberfest :-)
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