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Islanders Gameday: Prove-it Time for Comeau, Joensuu

This streak will end some day, but it has to end during this home stand to keep things from getting farcical. The Panthers, who started this 11-game winless streak almost a moon ago, provide a deceptively enticing opponent at 8-9-0. They're coming off a thorough beating from the Bruins though, so no doubt in their eyes the Islanders provide  them similar hope for redemption.

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Florida Panthers (8-9-0, 26th) @ New York Islanders (4-11-3, 30th)
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I am reluctant to pounce on player quotes that, coming from open conversation, are selected by a reporter (even an in-house one) for use to illustrate other points. And I feel like I've been focusing on Blake Comeau or his quotes a bit much in the days since Scott Gordon's removal; in truth, several players have discussed Jack Capuano opening things up a bit. Nonetheless, a couple more quotes from Comeau have me thinking about his place with Gordon, and about what he has to prove now under Jack Capuano [to keep the de-contexted theme going, bold emphasis is mine]:

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"I would consider [Capuano] a players' coach," Islanders forward Blake Comeau said. "He’s a competitive guy and he’s an intense guy when he’s on the bench. He wants guys to work hard, which I think is definitely acceptable. It’s going to be a good change. It’s a new starting point for us."

"He wants guys to go out and use their hockey sense, use their vision. I think when you get to this level, everyone is here for a reason and I think guys enjoy playing a little bit more when the game is not broken down in such a complicated way."

It is debatable whether the recent wave of more "cerebral" NHL coaching is the way to go, or at least the way to go for every lineup. But it's not debatable that Comeau just wants to play. The burden now is, if he wants to play with less structure -- again, I may be interpreting quotes too far -- then he's going to have to leverage that into production, perhaps with less PP time than he had under Gordon. Despite ample ice time and opportunity, Comeau has zero goals in his last 16 games, and just one assist in his last 10. We'll see what comes next. The ball is most definitely in his court.

Another player with the burden of "put up or move on" -- though one who's never pretended this isn't the case -- is Jesse Joensuu, Bridgeport's leading scorer (4-7-11, 16GP), who has just been recalled by the Isles.

Echoing sentiments he's shared before, Joensuu told Newsday [$5 please]: "Time is running out for me. It's time for me to show I have NHL abilities." He also mentions being hurt by his preseason cut and recalling advice from ex-Islander Tim Jackman, who took the long route to NHL regularity: Just do what you need to stick. (Jackman, of course, found fighting to be one of those things; doubt the Finn Named Jesse resorts to the same.)

 

Looking for Progress

I'm not exactly the ideal fan for a coaching change in that I wasn't ready to see Gordon go, so I'm not at all charged up by thinking, "THIS is what was needed!" But in terms of keeping my eyes on the team (okay, let's be honest -- as if they were going to drift away anyway), the coaching change does give me something new to look for in the games. Suddenly instead of being mired in the funk of the winless streak wondering when it will end, I'm not even focused first on the Dread of Losing but rather the Intrigue of What Jack Does.

He is making subtle changes the players are talking about. I like hockey, so I'm curious to watch how those go.

Dwayne Roloson starts tonight; Rick DiPietro starts in Atlanta tomorrow.

I won't be able to catch it live tonight; November weddings steal many a Saturday night. If you make your First Islanders Goal (FIG) pick here or in the game thread, please try to leave your pick in a reply to whomever leaves the first one.

What's the best opportunity for the Isles to break this streak? Pro Hockey Talk takes a look. (Note: I'm pretty sure by NHL records this is no longer a "losing" streak but a "winless" streak, so no records are in jeopardy anytime soon. Thank you, Shootout-Era NHL.)

Prediction: The Isles finally break the streak, via unfulfilling breakaway drill shootout.

R.I.P.: Pat Burns.

 

The OT Drama

The Botta Banishment continues, and Stu Hackel at his SI "Red Light" blog is the latest [h/t BC's FanShot] to defend Botta's significance for an undercovered team at a fragile time in fan relations. The audio for Gary Bettman's NHL show which addressed the topic is now up. None of this alters my view that this is a PR mistake for the Isles -- seems there is better way to resolve their on-going differences, or at least to try before revoking (if they didn't); because now criticism of the Isles piles on and Botta ironically (granted, with much help of his own) becomes the story after all. Which hilariously reinforces the point on both sides. Still, without more specific Islanders' response to the critiques beyond what was given to paywalled Newsday (something B.D. Gallof brings up in his alternative theory to the divorce), all critics are left to assume the worst.

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"If we don't beat the panthers, one of the worst team's in the nhl tonight",

then we have a BIGGER problem on our hands with this team then we think. Especially if we lose to the panthers without vokoun in net.

Go isles or Go home.

by OzzyFan on Nov 20, 2010 11:46 AM EST up reply actions  

They didnt beat them last time

I can only hope it was the power of Arbour that made them win that night.

Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)

by TheMetalChick on Nov 20, 2010 3:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Torrey

yea, I had that down as a loss when I heard they were doing a banner raising for him that night.

"...my dad taking me to see my two "teams" and me looking up at him after the 6th goal thinking, "What have you done to me?"" - Dom
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by Mark D on Nov 20, 2010 5:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Ha, duh...

I need to think when I type! :)

Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)

by TheMetalChick on Nov 20, 2010 5:45 PM EST up reply actions  

We are the worst team in the NHL

Florida is probably saying the same thing about the Islanders

by jrams16 on Nov 20, 2010 4:43 PM EST up reply actions  

We are THE worst team now

All Who Oppose Grabner Shall Perish.

by pippup on Nov 20, 2010 6:02 PM EST up reply actions  

FIG poll starting here:

Tavares 4:15

Go isles or Go home.

by OzzyFan on Nov 20, 2010 11:46 AM EST reply actions  

More FIG's in this thread, for example (mine):

Comeau 15:57

Lighthouse Hockey: You say that like Streit and Okposo and MacDonald were important.

by Dominik on Nov 20, 2010 12:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Martinek, 12:44

I will not be available for the game. Go Isles!

Hmmm.... you hit my goalie's head and it's hockey. I hit your goalie's post and it's a penalty. Oooooooooooooooooookaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyy,

by ICanSeeForIslesAndIsles on Nov 20, 2010 12:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Hunter @ 7:33 of the 2nd

The New York Islanders....they make opposing goalies look gooooood.

by Metalstar on Nov 20, 2010 12:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Comeau

11:11

Bailey for captain NOW!

by Zhora on Nov 20, 2010 1:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Using my hypothesized line combo from last night

Nielsen from JJ on a shortie @ 11:50 (yes, I went specific on the situation too)

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by David Hanssen on Nov 20, 2010 1:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Big night tonight

JT owned the cats last time but I’m going with the hot hand.

Moulson @5:15 (could also benefit from JT drawing extra attention)

There will be chili tonight, maybe double. I think the offense gets it together.

There is a lighthouse at the end of the tunnel.

by Anarcurt on Nov 20, 2010 1:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Altosax-Joensuu 9:21

Torch7-JT 12:13

Go isles or Go home.

by OzzyFan on Nov 20, 2010 1:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Thanks

For the fig heads-up!

by altosax on Nov 20, 2010 2:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Bailey @ 18:36

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by meigs1414 on Nov 20, 2010 1:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Grabner, 11:30

I’ll be absent tonight, friends are having a housecooling party before they move out of their current place this week. (Any excuse for a party!)

Lighthouse Hockey: Raising the compete level...whatever that means.
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by MTBVibe on Nov 20, 2010 1:54 PM EST up reply actions  

JT 15:20

Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)

by TheMetalChick on Nov 20, 2010 3:27 PM EST up reply actions  

P.A.P. 12.20 1st

Nearly enough defensemen to last through the injury bug

by since70too on Nov 20, 2010 5:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Martin

7:04

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by Keith Quinn on Nov 20, 2010 6:23 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

RSH 18:12 (over...unsure)

If he’s not in the starting lineup I’ll go with Blake Comeau @ 21:12.
But I wouldn’t bet my life, son!

yeah… started drinking early!

Jack's not nimble, Jack's not quick, but Jack can get another top five pick!

by JPinVA on Nov 20, 2010 6:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Joensu......9:21 1st period

JJ will stick, at last a guy with size and drive. We have too many smurfs [ we all know whom I’m talking about.]

by altosax on Nov 20, 2010 12:04 PM EST reply actions  

Escape you, FIG directions do. (see Ozzy’s comment ^)

Lighthouse Hockey: You say that like Streit and Okposo and MacDonald were important.

by Dominik on Nov 20, 2010 12:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Dom

Check time line on JJ goal prediction.

by altosax on Nov 20, 2010 2:33 PM EST up reply actions  

:)

No worries. I trust the real winners will usually pop up and say so when we get the accounting wrong anyway.

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by Dominik on Nov 20, 2010 3:38 PM EST up reply actions  

The accounting board will review your complaint

And get back to you in 6-8 weeks.

(Officially, our FIG hasn’t started until…the last Florida game, the start of this streak.)

Lighthouse Hockey: You say that like Streit and Okposo and MacDonald were important.

by Dominik on Nov 20, 2010 6:20 PM EST up reply actions  

I do contest!

Go find yourself an open door.

by The Black Map on Nov 20, 2010 6:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Gallof's Theory

I usually don’t agree with Gallof (In fact I pretty much stopped reading his stuff once he started Hockey Independent), but I think he might be on to something with IPB’s commentariat’s, umm, interesting takes on things and Botta’s inability to effectively control what was going on there. Also makes me appreciate this community more and more.

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by David Hanssen on Nov 20, 2010 12:05 PM EST reply actions  

Comments which have now spread

To Strang’s and Staple’s Newsday columns…although if Newsday doesn’t pull them down (I will check later). Do the Islabders even have a gripe about that?

I’m surprised we haven’t had more of a showing of that here recently…or have Bossy and the Enforcers and Snipers been moderating? (and I’m not accusing or anything, just asking if you guys are seeing more that we are)

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by Keith Quinn on Nov 20, 2010 12:23 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

A couple of things

Dom, WebBard, Mikb and I were talking about this, I was worried that they would spread their love in these parts without IPB to vent their issues…

This is what we came up with on why that will probably not happen (All credit goes to the other three, I am the paranoid, neurotic one.):

So there are several things working in our favor in terms of dealing with them. For one, signing up for an account will (hopefully) detract a lot of that. Second, is there’s a 24 hour waiting period after signing up until you can comment. Thirdly is you guys tend to self police very well on top of all of that, if anyone is out of line the regulars here tend to call them out and there’s nothing quite like a public shaming to get people to stop. So it is highly unlikely that even if they do come over, they will start spewing their spray-paint huffing theories.

So yeah, even if they come here their BS will not be welcome.

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by David Hanssen on Nov 20, 2010 12:36 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Wow!

Very candid answer, thanks! I expected more of a “nah, we haven’t seen anything” response. I’m sure everyone here likes what we have here and will take up the efforts you mention. Thanks!

Unless they bring their paint and extra bags…
I picked a bad week to stop sniffing glue.

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by Keith Quinn on Nov 20, 2010 12:45 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I'm always torn on that

The cool thing is if there’s something grossly over the line, usually people here have already done the shaming before I even see it. As a mod, I’ve only ever deleted a few select “third-rail topic” comments (other than maintenance/logistical removing of double posts, etc.). Problem is, if I delete them, it deletes all shaming replies, too, which takes away the credit for self-policing everyone does.

I haven’t seen the type of comments on other sites that people are referring to (just haven’t had the time to look), but I do remember them back in the day, and that’s one of the reasons I started this site after seeing the SBN framework. Opinions are great; trolling is easily dealt with thanks the Danish Backhand of Judgment.

Lighthouse Hockey: You say that like Streit and Okposo and MacDonald were important.

by Dominik on Nov 20, 2010 1:08 PM EST up reply actions  

So what you're saying

Is it’s got to be done Fans like, such as this:

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by David Hanssen on Nov 20, 2010 1:14 PM EST up reply actions  

*Frnas-like, not Fans like… D’Oh.

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by David Hanssen on Nov 20, 2010 1:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Frans-like not Frnas-like. Double Fail.

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by David Hanssen on Nov 20, 2010 1:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Sometimes it takes three tries, but Fans Frnas Frans always wins.

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by Dominik on Nov 20, 2010 1:26 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm sure

No one here needs “shaming credit” for keeping this place sane. I for one would easily deal with never seeing my responses again…the payoff is in the overall product!

LHH-We keeps it real…

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by Keith Quinn on Nov 20, 2010 1:25 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

What WAS Gallof's theory?

I can never make sense of his ramblings.

by deeco on Nov 20, 2010 4:37 PM EST up reply actions  

That a major reason that Botta’s press pass was revoked was due to, in part, to his inability to control the comments on his site.

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by David Hanssen on Nov 20, 2010 4:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Ahhh

Ok, thanks for the clarification.

by deeco on Nov 20, 2010 6:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Hopes for tonight...

All I really am looking for is a solid multi-goal effort tonight. I would be happy if we lost 4-3 in OT. If we score at least 3 goals and the offense starts showing signs of life then I’ll take that as a good sign Capuano is making some good changes. Though I was kinda hoping to see DP play tonight I’m cool with him starting tomorrow night.

The New York Islanders....they make opposing goalies look gooooood.

by Metalstar on Nov 20, 2010 12:42 PM EST reply actions  

I Think That is Exactly What They Need

The forwards have been able to get to the net but they just are not finishing what they started. They are giving good efforts, but there is no spar.

All Who Oppose Grabner Shall Perish.

by pippup on Nov 20, 2010 6:09 PM EST up reply actions  

The walk of shame ends tonight

I just bought a new JT #91 jersey. I feel it’s mojo We will win tonight

by Torch7 on Nov 20, 2010 12:50 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

The Commenting thing

I can already hear his response though; It’s the Will Leitch’s Deadspin defense against Buzz Bissinger on Costas Now, that the commentariat should not or does not affect the overall product. Of course, as we now know, that is totally a BS statement.

Now I like Leitch, a lot. I think he’s a talented writer and enjoy reading his books, articles and blogs a lot. BUT, I think on this point he’s off base. The commenting changes that have happened at Deadspin now after AJ took over shows that fact, as well as what goes on at sites like this. I think this should be especially true in cases like Botta, where he is writing a blog but at the same time trying to pass himself off as a legit hockey writer and not just a blogger. The stories we’ve heard here of people getting banned at IPB for commenting about a picture of a shirtless Zdeno Chara as inappropriate, yet some of the more crazies are still around there show where Botta’s priorities really are.

So, I think you’re right about them not asking about the comments on the site. But in their defense, they probably don’t read him regularly and couldn’t care less about what he wrote about earlier in the season. And this is exactly what Botta wants. The spotlight is on him, popular sentiment outside of the Islanders community is on his side. He’s got the momentum in his favor.

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by David Hanssen on Nov 20, 2010 3:33 PM EST up reply actions  

But in their defense, they probably don’t read him regularly and couldn’t care less about what he wrote about earlier in the season

This is what scares me about the state of most American media at this point…the sensational, hot , ratings grabbing story>the truth and perspective.

And agreed, I think this is a fact Botta relies on, but at the same time may serve to undermine the blogging industry as a whole. I can envision a point where the team may be able to turn around and say “none of these bloggers even bothered to investigateor confirm the truth and have not attempted to contact us…that’s irresponsible journalism”.

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by Keith Quinn on Nov 20, 2010 3:42 PM EST up reply actions  

This is what scares me about the state of most American media at this point…the sensational, hot , ratings grabbing story>the truth and perspective.

I refuse to watch TV news – Daily Show doesn’t count, of course – and am eternally grateful for BBC World News on my local PBS affiliate. There’s just such a high quotient of “let me tell you what to think” in American journalism now, as opposed to “let me tell you the facts”…

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by MTBVibe on Nov 20, 2010 3:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Blog commenters vs talk radio callers

My stance on the issue of blog commenters is that they should maintain the same standard of conduct as the FCC expects of live radio call-in shows. Cross the line, you get bleeped and taken off the air. Certainly the format is of more than passing similarity – talk radio reports on stories or offers opinions and invites commentary. Blogs report on stories or offer opinions and invite commentary. Makes sense in my head!

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by MTBVibe on Nov 20, 2010 3:47 PM EST up reply actions  

I think I disagree on that

I don’t mind people leaving up whatever the blog host wants up. (The person who owns the blog should be able to manage the content IMO). But in light of that, I believe you reap what you sow and the party you are covering has the right to use you or not. If you want to tend toward news, great…commentary, fine.
On the other hand if a person is actually reporting news accurately(while making all of the facts available), and the source doesn’t like how that pans out, that is tough crap for the source…do better. Credentials should not be revoked for that. The Botta thing is an unknown though because facts aren’t available.

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by Keith Quinn on Nov 20, 2010 5:28 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I meant it as more a general comment than specific to the Botta situation

We don’t have all the facts there, we’re just speculating about whether his commentariat influenced the decision.

I think the commenters at Deadspin are great, and there’s no doubting that they often cross the “obscenity/political correctness” line…difference there being they do it with intelligence.

There has to be SOME standard of conduct to expect of people on the internet, and the FCC guidelines are as good a place to start as any. (I think.)

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by MTBVibe on Nov 20, 2010 6:31 PM EST up reply actions  

I believe that its hard for writers that are not following the Islanders all the time to make an acurate statement on some of the situations the organization gets into. If you don’t know everything thats going on and haven’t been following it(in the way Islanders fans follow it), then chances are you will make an inacurate statement/opinion on the matter. There can be a lot of biase and assumptions and that hurts much of outsiders reporting on the Islanders.

All Who Oppose Grabner Shall Perish.

by pippup on Nov 20, 2010 6:14 PM EST up reply actions  

"Do you think that not removing or moderating some of the comments that are defamatory to Asian culture may be partly to blame for the Islanders lack of tolerance for IPB and the unwillingness of individual teams and the NHL to accept bloggers as the equivalent of mass media?"

applause, cheering, agreement.

Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)

by TheMetalChick on Nov 20, 2010 3:57 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I Read It

The writer seemed more of a bully than the Islanders. But at least he had sympathy for us. He made some good points but overall didn’t know too much about what he was talking about; a lot of people in the comment section had the same problem.

All Who Oppose Grabner Shall Perish.

by pippup on Nov 20, 2010 6:11 PM EST up reply actions  

That’s generally his tone, yes. He takes on league-wide topics and, in my opinion, far too often lets the snark/humor side be his shelter for not actually getting all the facts straight.

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by Dominik on Nov 20, 2010 6:23 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Another lineup note

Weight confirmed out now, so Schremp will be lining up in his spot apparently.

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by MTBVibe on Nov 20, 2010 1:56 PM EST reply actions  

Oh man, look at the dynamics if the Isles win:

1) TOLD you they needed a coaching change!
2) TOLD you Schremp should be in the lineup!
3) TOLD you they should have JJ in there!
4) TOLD you Weight should be dropped!
5) TOLD you [insert pet theory here]!

There will be plenty of fodder for every one’s favorite crusades. …unless they lose, in which case it’s back to topic #1 (“God we suck!”)

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by Dominik on Nov 20, 2010 2:07 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I like item 5.
5) TOLD you [insert pet theory here]!

-We needed to repaint the nets at NVMC.
-Clearly it was due to a problem in the feng shui of the locker room.
-Rollie’s stick needed more tape.
-The pucks were a degree too warm.
-It was all about those camouflage warm-up jerseys.

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by MTBVibe on Nov 20, 2010 2:11 PM EST up reply actions  

-The opposition was decidedly short on sportsmanship.
-Moulson needs to stop hitting the post.
-“Live is Life” just needed some time is all.

Lighthouse Hockey: You say that like Streit and Okposo and MacDonald were important.

by Dominik on Nov 20, 2010 2:21 PM EST up reply actions  

I was thinking of a which "jinx" caused the slide fanpost for this
  • Changing the goal song (no one scoring because no one wants to hear it)
  • Schremp dropping #13
  • Everyone mentioning playoffs too early (like speaking out “shutout” or “no-hitter”)
  • The FIG pool
  • The Community Projections
  • Having too many MMs on the roster

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by Keith Quinn on Nov 20, 2010 2:21 PM EST up reply actions  

It's a cascade of jinxes!

We have no one to blame but ourselves.

Lighthouse Hockey: You say that like Streit and Okposo and MacDonald were important.

by Dominik on Nov 20, 2010 2:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Having too many MMs on the roster

But they are so delicious and chocolaty

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by Mark D on Nov 20, 2010 2:37 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Thank gods you didn't go with...

…“but they melt in your mouth, not in your hand,” for your comeback… =p

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by MTBVibe on Nov 20, 2010 2:55 PM EST up reply actions  

That happens to be the one thing I like about Rags Fans

All Who Oppose Grabner Shall Perish.

by pippup on Nov 20, 2010 6:19 PM EST up reply actions  

But I lie the goal song. Its fun to sing along with.

Come one guys! Na na na na na na.

All Who Oppose Grabner Shall Perish.

by pippup on Nov 20, 2010 7:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Sorry

Like, not lie. My “k” key on my keyboard is giving me problems.

All Who Oppose Grabner Shall Perish.

by pippup on Nov 20, 2010 7:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Told you

That the CB/GS IBP controversey would cause the troops to rally!

by altosax on Nov 20, 2010 2:45 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

If they lose...

It will be the ultimate #1
1)TOLD you they suck

All Who Oppose Grabner Shall Perish.

by pippup on Nov 20, 2010 6:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Islanders Gameday

I was always told if you can’t say anything nice then don’t say anything at all.

by Isle Of Weight on Nov 20, 2010 3:00 PM EST reply actions  

Free Agent goalies

I just read that at the end if this season
Howard, bryzgaliv, vokoun, guguere, Anderson, turco, neimi. Are all free agents
You think we can land anyone this summer ?

by Torch7 on Nov 20, 2010 3:11 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

wow, thats a deep market. It depends on how DP finishes the season, if they want to bring back Rollie for one more year. I’d really be surprised if they went with both Poulin and Mikko next year, I would think they’d want a vet to platoon with one of them.

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by Mark D on Nov 20, 2010 3:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Agree with Webby, all revolves around DP, just like when Rolli signed: Need a goalie who wants to sign badly enough while accepting there might be a guy on a 15-year deal still (at that time? who knows?) trying to regain his form and being afforded the chances to do so.

So really too early to tell. Don’t want any part of Turco or Niemi myself as we sit today.

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by Dominik on Nov 20, 2010 3:45 PM EST up reply actions  

WB, seconded (Or 3rded?), Depending on how the rest of their respective AHL seasons go, I would go with Koskinen or Poulin next year over any of the available free agents and platoon them with Roloson/DiPietro next year.

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by David Hanssen on Nov 20, 2010 3:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Key words "depending on"...

Too many factors now to project…DP’s health, Koski/Poulin’s progression, and so forth.

I’ll just…keep my man crush on Ilya over here in the corner…

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by MTBVibe on Nov 20, 2010 3:54 PM EST up reply actions  

You can't tell me you wouldn't jump all over Bryzgalov though. =p

He’s wasted in the desert! Come to us, Ilya!

Lighthouse Hockey: Raising the compete level...whatever that means.
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by MTBVibe on Nov 20, 2010 3:52 PM EST up reply actions  

I posted something like this the other day. I think Vokoun would be clutch. He is used to playing on poor offensive teams (Nashville & Florida) and the Isles could afford him at a time when most teams are struggling with cap space. If DP can not regain his form, Vokoun would give the team a chance to win every single night while we cycle DP, Poulin, or Kosk through a back up role.

by 54_Fighting on Nov 20, 2010 5:52 PM EST up reply actions  

I'd take Bryz purely for his comic effect

The good goaltending is just icing on top.

Lighthouse Hockey: You say that like Streit and Okposo and MacDonald were important.

by Dominik on Nov 20, 2010 6:24 PM EST up reply actions  

ISLES BLACKED OUT!?!?

Please tell me its not tru? College Foootball instead?

by KO21 on Nov 20, 2010 4:17 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

MSG.com has it listed

It’s on the North Korea +2000 feed but it’s on there (at least on LI).

There is a lighthouse at the end of the tunnel.

by Anarcurt on Nov 20, 2010 4:27 PM EST up reply actions  

On North Korea+2000 the Islanders always win.
Kim Jong II says so.

All Who Oppose Grabner Shall Perish.

by pippup on Nov 20, 2010 6:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Blacked out for me upstate

Courtesy of MSG+2 not being carried by cable providers here.

Lighthouse Hockey: Raising the compete level...whatever that means.
(MTBVibe: Now a twit!)

by MTBVibe on Nov 20, 2010 4:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Long Island

That blows but I’m on LI! I hope its just a typo…Is there anyone else out there w FIOS?

by KO21 on Nov 20, 2010 4:44 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

wouldnt be surprised

I hope to God Wang doesn’t decide to punish the fans for the lack of attendence..id be so disapointed…I look forward to my Islander games on TV even tho they haven’t been fun to watch lately….id die if Wang does pull the plug but the sad ghing is I wouldn’t be surprised, so sad

by KO21 on Nov 20, 2010 4:53 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I don't know

Such a turn of events happened to the Blawkhawks and look at them now. Why don’t we try it?

All Who Oppose Grabner Shall Perish.

by pippup on Nov 20, 2010 6:22 PM EST up reply actions  

MSG+2 is now shown on something called iO Sports HD

New channel so that Isles and Devs will now always be in HD.
Maybe that will help you find it?

Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)

by TheMetalChick on Nov 20, 2010 5:05 PM EST up reply actions  

fingers crossed

I don’t know what I’m gonna do if I can’t watch the games.

by KO21 on Nov 20, 2010 6:13 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Double fingers crossed.

Double-crossed?

Go find yourself an open door.

by The Black Map on Nov 20, 2010 6:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Upstate

The Isles game would be blacked out tonight even if it was on MSG or MSG+ because the Sabres are playing the Lightning at the same time.

by Dougtone on Nov 20, 2010 6:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Wang heard the fans were complaining

and pulled their rights to watch the games.

There is a lighthouse at the end of the tunnel.

by Anarcurt on Nov 20, 2010 6:22 PM EST up reply actions  

For a while, with Staten Island Cable, the Islanders were on Fox Sports New York. But FSNY was brand new, so you had to do a pay by the day thing to get it. It’s why I went to a bunch of games that year, it was 5 bucks on TV, or 15 to see it live and sneak into the lower bowl.

To top it off, I tended to get free tickets just by hanging around the box office before games.

"...my dad taking me to see my two "teams" and me looking up at him after the 6th goal thinking, "What have you done to me?"" - Dom
Contributor to Lighthouse Hockey not sure if I'm the Sniper or the Enforcer.

by Mark D on Nov 20, 2010 6:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Tonight's the night, kids!

Bailey opens the can o’ worms @ 6:18 of the first, Isles go on to crush FLA 6-1. Roloson gets a quiet night. NICE!

by Les Beaver on Nov 20, 2010 5:12 PM EST reply actions  

Mottau 12:08

Mottau 12:08

FB4Real
"Past performance Is Not A Guarantee For Future Results"

by FB4Real on Nov 20, 2010 5:29 PM EST reply actions  

Moulson 25:30

Constantly building for the future.

by pgat28 on Nov 20, 2010 6:16 PM EST reply actions  

IM SORRY. FALSE ALARM!

I was gonna say “my bad”, but its really FIOS’s bad

by KO21 on Nov 20, 2010 6:33 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Official GAME THREAD IS UP

Is now up here. (Sorry for the late posting.)

http://www.lighthousehockey.com/2010/11/20/1826752/islanders-panthers-game-thread

Lighthouse Hockey: You say that like Streit and Okposo and MacDonald were important.

by Dominik on Nov 20, 2010 6:46 PM EST reply actions  

I hope I’m wrong though.

by Dougtone on Nov 20, 2010 6:52 PM EST up reply actions  

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May 24, 1980: Tonelli to Nystrom. At long last, the steady build of the New York Islanders from expansion doormat to surprise semifinalist to annual contender reaches the promised land: Buoyed by a late season trade for Butch Goring that gave the team the depth up the middle GM Bill Torrey had been seeking, the Islanders knock off the Philadelphia Flyers in six games.

The victory justified the faith in coach Al Arbour who guided them from their second season to their first Stanley Cup seven seasons later. The Islanders would not be the first expansion team to win the Stanley Cup, but they would be the only one capable of a dynasty.

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May 21, 1981: This time it was much easier. After falling to "only" 91 points in the 1979-80 season, the Islanders returned to their division title tradition, piling up 110 points -- a whole 13 points over second-place Philadelphia.

Between the quarterfinals (where they beat the upstart Oilers in six games) and the finals, the Islanders reeled off eight consecutive wins -- with a four-game sweep of archrival Rangers in between. As they defeated the Minnesota North Stars in five games for their second Cup, their goal difference in the final was a combined +10.

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May 16, 1982: Another year, another landslide title. The Islanders won the Patrick Division by a whopping 26 points over the second-place Rangers, and were seven points clear of their nearest competition for the President's Trophy, the still-not-quite-ripe Edmonton Oilers.

A first-round scare against the Pittsburgh Penguins turned in the Isles' favor thanks to John Tonelli's heroics, and a true dynasty was on its way: Past the Rangers in six games, then an eight-game sweep of the Quebec Nordiques and Vancouver Canucks to run away with the Stanley Cup.

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May 17, 1983: Not so fast, whipper-snappers. The Edmonton Oilers' steadily rising challenge for league supremacy took them all the way to the finals for the first time, where the New York Islanders summarily dispatched them in a four-game sweep. For the Islanders, the Dynasty was secured. For the Oilers, it was a powerful lesson in where talent ends and the demands of playoff hockey begin.

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