Bits: More Stars-Islanders rehash, Tavares and Bailey
by Dominik on Oct 10, 2010 2:24 PM EDT
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PrintThis is a periodic feature as time allows. (A bit late, but as Ozzy quipped, many of you are at church praying for John Tavares's recovery anyway. Or nursing Yankees hangovers, if so inclined. Or is it football? Tsk, these "other" sports.)
In addition to those in our recap last night, some more links about the Islanders-Stars game plus a teaser of who plays center if Tavares is out (hint: He had a great game last night.):
- Josh Bailey may be first-line pivot, while Michael Grabner steps in on the Doug Weight/Nino Niederreiter line [@KatieStrangNYI of Newsday]
- She also had a quick Tavares injury update.
- P.A. Parenteau on losing Tavares and Scott Gordon on "Don't call it a rebuild anymore" [Post - Brett Cyrgalis]
- The Daily News bothered with coverage (contracted "special to," but we'll take it), including quotes from Adam Burish (whom I believe) on the collision with John Tavares:
- More views from the Dallas side: Dallas News recap, game notes, then day-after at Defending Big D.
- "The Skinny" at the official site with stat man Eric Hornick. The 47 shots were the Isles' highest since October 2008. [Islanders]
- Official site recap: With AP placeholder replaced by Dylan LeBourdais' write-up.
- Newsday's recap from Katie Strang
- Mark Herrmann wrote a column. [Newsday - $5 please]
- Bridgeport: The kids are alright. Offense flowed in a shootout win. [Soundin' Off - Fornabaio]
- 7th Woman with two updates, a brief on the game scene and one on the press scene with Stan Fischler in the house.
- Islesblogger liked the new boys. [Islesblogger]
- Ken Dick at Okposo Net -- who had the classic Twitter line last night about Jamie Benn being knocked into next week, where he might know who wins the ALCS -- believes last night was a harbinger of the wild ride to come with this team.
- NYIFYI on various players, including: "Mark Eaton is a good skater, but definitely avoids contact."
- Finally: This is Why We Can't Have Nice Things. The complaint is always that the Isles can't haul in the top-tier free agents, which is true. The oft-glossed-over part of that complaint is that the top free agents available each summer usually have inflated pricetags with strings attached. You can look at the list now for next summer's top UFAs, but in truth the best ones will be locked up by their teams before hitting the market because teams don't let their best players slip away. [ESPN - LeBrun]
Happy Sunday and football and all that. Battle of New York resumes tomorrow afternoon. Don't miss WebBard's post on why it's the best in NYC sports.
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Awesome links. I asked Hornick late last night, and he was unsure (as am I), of how many other times Weight has gone out and put up 3 points in game 1? Doesn’t really mean anything, but I think it would lead to an interesting stat one way or another. Definitely makes me feel happy to see that he’s looking healthy early on.
I cannot wait for Rakh-tober.
1997-98 with Edmonton
Same line: 1G, 2A.
Really glad it was that year, because the nhl.com game logs don’t go back before that one!
Lighthouse Hockey: You say that like Streit and Okposo and Schremp and Tavares were important.
Cause I know we have Some Douglas Adams fans
Today is October 10, 2010. 10/10/10. In binary, that’s 42. And 42 is The Answer to the Ultimate Question of Life, the Universe and Everything. Or at least, that’s what Douglas Adams says.
After the 2nd Period of Opening Night "Best Period of the year" DevonPSU
Contributor to Lighthouse Hockey not sure if I'm the Sniper or the Enforcer.
I like the geek t-shirt line
“There are 10 kinds of people in the world: Those who understand binary and those who don’t.”
Lighthouse Hockey: You say that like Streit and Okposo and Schremp and Tavares were important.
How long until Matt Martin is back...
1G 1A +2 in BP
The New York Islanders- Give us your scraps and we'll give you a scrappy team.
BP needs all the offensive help it can get
After the 2nd Period of Opening Night "Best Period of the year" DevonPSU
Contributor to Lighthouse Hockey not sure if I'm the Sniper or the Enforcer.
Some BP stuff
Apparently Robin Figren is a new man this year. He already has two goals in two games and has Capuano praising him (Which never happened last year).
Martin has been playing on a line with David Ullstrom and Jesse Joensuu. Martin is the smallest guy on that line. Seriously.
And finally Mikko Koskinen has now played in as many regular season games with BP as he did all of last year.
There are few things in this world I enjoy more than the English getting beaten like a rented mule.
by David Hanssen on Oct 10, 2010 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions
happy for Figren
I thought he looked good in preseason. Not making the NHL team good, more like wow he could have a good AHL season good. Its progress! :)
Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)
by TheMetalChick on Oct 11, 2010 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions
As I've said.....
…..Robin looked absolutely phenomenal in that second Bruins rookie game, he and Ullstrom both…..P.T’s stripey tiger cubs look every bit as promising as what we saw Saturday night!
Nice.
I guess we’ll see him after the real 1st injury or 9/10gms in. The whole grabner + nino situation(probably parentau too) is the big deciding thing right now. Both need their shot to see if they can produce, and since Gordon said he doesn’t want martin in 4th line minutes, a top 9 must go down for him to be called up. 10gms pass and nino is down and/or grabner or parentau have dissappointed, then I don’t see why Martin wouldn’t be given a shot then. Gordon might give them more time though, I’m not sure. But I’d guess the latest we’d see Martin being called up would be mid-November/16gms~ unless the whole team is playing great and there are no more injuries.
Go isles or Go home.
Having witnessed LaFontaine's concussion odyssey.......
I hope they don’t rush Tavares back. Give him two weeks off minimum. Disagree if you want, but why risk it with Streit and Okposo already done? This is still a team that while competitive, was going to struggle to make the playoffs even with everyone healthy. Would rather see Weight step up to first line. Had that extra jump against Dallas. Didn’t recognize him,lol. Sorry, Bailey just isn’t a first line center. Don’t think he’s even a 2nd line one, but I never liked that pick anyway, so I’m biased against him.
Thanks for all the links too.
I agree with you on the Tavares thing. I wouldn’t mind 2 weeks, give the new guys a chance to prove themselves and being overcautious in this situation isn’t a bad thing. That said, since it was a mild concussion, if he doesn’t experience any post concussion sydroms I’d expect the team to bring him back for Friday’s game.
On Bailey, I’m going to have to drastically disagree(I know your biased, but I just want to rebuttle anyway). Bailey should no question in my mind be a 2nd line 2-way playmaking center for this team in time. He has show lots of signs of light and was only 20yrs old last season. Lots of ceiling there for him. 1st line is probably overrating him, but I wouldn’t be suprised if he panned out to be 1st line good. Right now, I would consider Bailey a 3rd line center at his age, play, and point production shown last year. He still has age to improve, so I see him tapering into a 2nd line center role over a little time.
Go isles or Go home.
Fans and bloggers and MD's??
With all due respect…how about we let the medical experts decide what’s best for JT…most fans and I would venture to guess that all NYI bloggers are not in that category.
lol, don't worry. I'm pretty sure my unknowledgable medical background will have little effect on the team's decisions with Tavares.
Nothing to worry about. The more cautious they are with him the better, but I just said I wouldnt be surprised if he was back in the lineup sooner then people expected. Just saying.
Go isles or Go home.
I'm not a doctor either...
But I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express recently
by FireGarthSnow on Oct 11, 2010 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions
I hope they don’t rush Tavares back. Give him two weeks off minimum. Disagree if you want, but why risk it with Streit and Okposo already done?
Youre not going to see me disagree with that! Id give him 2 weeks even if Streit and Okposo were healthy as anyhting. I dont think who else is there matters one bit. Maybe a bit less if he is 100%, bouncing off walls and ready to play for a while. Really the only way you can see if a kid is ready is to be right there- and then still give him a little more time even when he looks like he is perfectly fine.
Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)
by TheMetalChick on Oct 11, 2010 12:36 AM EDT up reply actions
One point I wanna talk on:
BAILEY FINALLY GETS A SHOT AT CENTER! Between Moulson and Comeau, it’s going to be very interesting to see how he performs Monday/Tomorrow against the smurfs. I awaited his 1st gm at center this year, but disliked the reasoning(JT’s injury). Either way, I hope Bailey makes the best of it because he looked really good in the 1st game and nothing is holding him back now, given the players he’s put with and position he is in right now.
Go isles or Go home.
Bails is actually starting to look a LOT like.....
…..the second coming of Wayne Merrick, one of the best playmakers we ever had…..
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