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Islanders-Rangers: The Best Rivalry In New York Sports

Far and away, the best rivalry in New York sports (before any Buffalo fans message me, I'm talking city) is far and away the Islanders and the Rangers.

The fact that the Islanders and Rangers are in the same division/conference makes all the difference in the world. Unlike the other rivalries in the city, at least till the Nets move to Brooklyn, the Yankees/Mets and Giants/Jets just don't play nearly enough. As it is the Giants and Jets only play a regular season game once every four years. The Yanks/Mets play two series a year, but in the big picture of the insanely long MLB season six games doesn't mean much.

When it comes to the Islanders and the Rangers, it's six battles a year and the much more likely possibility of meeting in the playoffs. Not only that, but from Day One of this rivalry a $4 million territorial fee to the Rangers just screamed that it was going to be a mutual hatred. The first playoff series the upstart Islanders ever won was in the old preliminary best-of-three series against the Rangers. During the Dynasty years the Islanders met the Rangers four times in the playoffs, winning every series.

The history is just so much richer due to this.

Star-divide

The "Potvin Sucks!" chant and 1940 chant both have their respective places in history. It's been 20 years since Denis Potvin played in the NHL. Imagine if a Mets fan tried to start a "Mattingly sucks" chant at Shea or Citi field?. He'd get a bunch of odd disinterested looks. Or if a Jets fan tried to start a "Simms sucks" chant, you can imagine it would be more of the same. But with yearly games, and wins against NHL divisional opponents at a premium, the year-to-year wounds never heal. That's why any of the other pro teams in New York would be hard pressed to reach the enmity at an Islanders/Rangers game.

Given the small amount of playoff victories in my history of following the Islanders, it seems like the games I always remember the most were wins over the Rangers. Growing up around 90% Rangers fans is probably part of the reason for that. That the Islanders were terrible and in a way the Rangers were responsible (take this Maloney guy, he's great!) probably had something to do with it. The Islanders always seem to find a way to play the Rangers tough, even when they are incredibly awful.

Compared to Islanders/Rangers games, the Jets/Giants and Yankees/Mets just don't carry that much weight. If your team wins and you have a friend or relative whose a superfan of the other team it's a bit of fun (my stepdad has Yankees everything, he's probably part of why they can afford that damn roster) but in the end inconsequential. When the Nets move, sure the Knicks and Nets will be in the same division, but it will take a long time for the history to build up. It'll also take a long time for either team to be good.


Personal Histories

In the end it seems like we all have our own little history or story about the Rangers as Islanders fans. From the loud mouths who seemed to every year predict that this free agent would be the one to get the Rangers the cup, to the ones who claim that Snow will be riding the Zamboni too. I'll always remember a game from the 95/96 season. The Rangers dominated every game that year except one. In the process they put up 4 or more goals in every matchup. The Islanders were just two weeks off of a home and home series which the Rangers handily won 4-2 and 6-2. At the time the Rangers were also on a long unbeaten streak at home.

To make matters worse, the "best" Islanders were all out hurt, including Ziggy Palffy's one missed game on the season. To make matters even worse the goalie was Tommy Soderstrom. But the Islanders fought on behind Marty McInnis (2 Goals, 1 Assist) Wendel Clark (2 Assists) and Martin Straka (1 goal, 1 Assist) to upend former Islander Glen Healy and win 5 to 3 at the Garden. I got to hold my head up high at school for at least a day or two.

The closest any of the other NY-based rivalries can get to that would be the Subway World Series. It probably has a bitter aftertaste due to hindsight and the Mets never getting back to the World Series. We all though have the same stories on Ranger fans or Ranger games we remember, feel free to share them below. With the second game of the season Monday being a showdown with the Short Island Smurfs, we might as well get ready early.

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Are saying that people really would write in to make a case for Bills/Jets rivalry??? Otherwise nice piece. It will remain the best rivalry for the foreseeable future

by ATL Jim on Oct 10, 2010 9:11 AM EDT reply actions  

Sabres Too

And Thanks!

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by Mark D on Oct 10, 2010 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

I absutley loath the strangers.

They are the redsox of hockey and then some. They can never say anything to any Islander fan ever. There franchise is a living monument to awful hockey. I live in the muddle of the smurfs village (manhattan). When I wear my Islanders stuff most people think it’s a retro mets jersey. Wow vintage man lol. Actually last week I had a run in with a stranger Neanderthal on the west side. While walking down Amaterdam Ave in my Islanders cap a man walked up to me and said. "islanders? Are you F ing with me. You guys suck ". And then I said the magic words. The holy " Ranger Fan Be Gone" words, the golden words that make every stranger fanvshrivel up like superman to kryptanite:
FOUR IN A ROW MAN. FOUR IN A ROW MAN. (in some cases you may have to apply a third dosage). This case fortunately only took two.
Be well. And remember we will when a cup before they do.

by Torch7 on Oct 10, 2010 10:14 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

why?

On second thought: Don’t answer that.

I’ll assume you’re pummeling a Sean Avery voodoo doll with the other hand.

by kfallon2 on Oct 10, 2010 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL

When the timestamp says “via mobile” after it, it’s like a blanket excuse for random typos and autofills.

Lighthouse Hockey: You say that like Streit and Okposo and Schremp and Tavares were important.

by Dominik on Oct 10, 2010 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like. 4 in a row is a good shutdown thing. I have to remember the XX straight playoff series one too

5 straight cup appearances and name all the historical players on that team. Arguably the greatest team of all time ever. And they will be near impossible to ever dethrone.

Go isles or Go home.

by OzzyFan on Oct 10, 2010 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dynasty

Also the isles are the ONLY US hockey dynasty with four straight.
Case closed Strangers Put some banners up at My ass is done square garden then we can talk lol

by Torch7 on Oct 10, 2010 12:35 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Another fun thing is that 1994, which was once “recent” history, is now closer to 1980-83 in time than it is to the present. A blip in time really, when the 1980s Oilers briefly put on Smurf uniforms for a team reunion.

Lighthouse Hockey: You say that like Streit and Okposo and Schremp and Tavares were important.

by Dominik on Oct 10, 2010 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

'Red Sox of hockey'?????

Are you comparing the Islanders-Rangers rivalry to that of the Red Sox-Yankees? Very comparable, but the Red Sox are NOT baseball’s version of the Rangers – the YANKEES might as well be the Rangers in that context!

by ogam5 on Oct 11, 2010 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

As much as it absolutely pains me to say it

At this point in time the Mets are more like the Rangers than the Sox are, relatively speaking. All that spending, bringing in name players, and WTF do they have to show for it? :(

Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)

by TheMetalChick on Oct 11, 2010 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

Another quick one

When we were kids my brother and I went trick or treating on Halloween and a guy opened his door wearing a shirt that said The New York Islanders S*ck (sorry I couldnt bring myself to write it out). We went nuts on this guy told him he couldn’t even carry Mike Bossys skates, billy smiths mustache could kick your ass (that was my brother with that one lol we still laugh at that one). But he still gave us candy and shut the door. We went down to the street looked in our pillow cases and took out his packs of raisonettes and chucked them in his lawn. No strangers candy for us. Good times. Best part i think it was Halloween 1982. So you know what happened later that season

by Torch7 on Oct 10, 2010 10:30 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

You refused to keep his candy? That is absolutely adorable. :)

Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)

by TheMetalChick on Oct 10, 2010 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

raisinettes!

LOL, that’s actually not bad for a Rags fan. I’d have expected Necco Wafers.

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by mikb on Oct 10, 2010 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

My friend is a Rangers fan.

We’re pretty cool about it. Monday will be fun.

Individuals don't win Championships, Teams do.
Chase for 28

by Jeterian 2 on Oct 10, 2010 12:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Oh yeah. It almost goes without saying

Lots of friends on both sides, it’s just that some of them were horribly misled during their impressionable youth, and no one called Child Services for them.

All in fun.

Lighthouse Hockey: You say that like Streit and Okposo and Schremp and Tavares were important.

by Dominik on Oct 10, 2010 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

1983

I remember after the isles won the cup that year we chanted Rangers Suck on the bus ride home from school for weeks. It got so bad my ranger fan friends used to walk home lol. And then we’d see them walking home and flip them the bird. Good times people good times.

by Torch7 on Oct 10, 2010 12:44 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

That story makes me so happy!!!

by mdelbags on Oct 10, 2010 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Unrelated Question about Radio

So I’m gonna be at work on Monday (on Columbus Day, boooooo) so I’m going to have to listen to the Rags game at work. Does anybody know if it’s streaming online or is this purely an FM affair?

by Fabtraption on Oct 10, 2010 2:06 PM EDT reply actions  

Its Online, I listened to it for the first period the other night. Dom links to it in the gameday thread, or you can go to the Isles official site and they have a link to the stream

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by Mark D on Oct 10, 2010 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh yeah? Awesome. I can’t miss out on a game for something as silly as work then.

by Fabtraption on Oct 10, 2010 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hear ya

Every year these Columbus Day and President’s Day matinees bite me. But Columbus is worse because the season just started and already I have to stammer around at work like a 5-year-old on Christmas Eve.

Lighthouse Hockey: You say that like Streit and Okposo and Schremp and Tavares were important.

by Dominik on Oct 10, 2010 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Isles/Rangers out of state hatred

I live in the Philly burbs (moved out of NY in 2003) and went out to breakfast this morning with my wife wearing my Isles hat. Even in Flyer territory, I managed to run into a Ranger fan at the opposite table who made a “you still have fans of that team” comment. I reminded him of his teams ineptitude of the last 16 years and of our (mostly) dominant performances over them all time. He wasnt happy.

Felt great to get into a heated debate with another Ranger knucklehead even though I live in Flyer country. Go Islanders!

by GiantsFanInPA on Oct 10, 2010 3:23 PM EDT reply actions  

Wow,

I live in NY and wear my Isles hat 5 out of 7 days a week, so you know I get a lot of that and have the old 4 cup in a row dynasty, greatest team ever, Potvin/Bossy/Trottier/Smith/etc list of some of the greatest players of all time on the same team, and the whole your team is mostly Gaborik and Lundqvist(which in reality, take one of them away and the rangers are in rebuilding mode too, lol). It gets annoying after a while, but it’s always fun to have the old debate/discussion every now and then. But I’m so glad all the ranger fans aren’t like that (had a few I met in college classes that were actually normal hockey fans and said they understood the team situation and said the future looked good with: Tavares/Okposo and Bailey in the system.

Go isles or Go home.

by OzzyFan on Oct 10, 2010 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

1994

I still insist the Blueskirts have won zero cups since 1940. In 1994, the Stanley Cup was purchased by the NY OilerHawks.

by isles16 on Oct 10, 2010 5:15 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Leetch and Richter.

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by Mark D on Oct 11, 2010 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

"Hi we are the rangers, and we have a tradition of trying to buy stanley cups" lol

Their team isn’t that bad home grown now though. Lundqvist and Staal are good and a lot of their young guys aren’t that bad. But it does look like they need to buy a lot of people to come close to the playoffs, lol.

Go isles or Go home.

by OzzyFan on Oct 11, 2010 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, right now this is shaping up to be a real home-grown rivalry

Plus the annual overpaid Rangers mercenary or two.

Lighthouse Hockey: You say that like Streit and Okposo and Schremp and Tavares were important.

by Dominik on Oct 12, 2010 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

The worst for me...1979

Had to go to school the day after the Rags eliminated the Isles and hear it from my friends, who were all Rags fans. Ugh…… Yes, the same year John Davidson had his unconscious, out-of body experience. He’d stick his leg out to make a save and it would hit his glove.

Few other tidbits from the early years:
Rags beat the Isles 6-0, 6-0 in a home at home, I remember this since I was at the Coliseum game. Gilles Villenueve remarked, “6-0,6-0 eh? Sounds like a tennis match”

After Isles beat the Rags in OT in 1975 and crybaby Derek Sanderson guaranteed the Islanders would never win another playoff game, it was either Parise or Drouin who replied that " Well, I guarantee the Rangers won’t win another playoff game this season!"

by FireGarthSnow on Oct 10, 2010 5:31 PM EDT reply actions  

1979 had to be miserable for a kid

What a low point…although I guess they made up for it over the next 19 playoff series!

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by Dominik on Oct 10, 2010 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

The year before was actually much WORSE -

 - for me, anyhow; heard about the series loss to Toronto to NO friggin’ end, particularly at church from John Sessions and his son Mark – don’t get me wrong; ’79 was also very galling, but somehow not so much – then again, I was in Bruins territory and they had just given Montreal a good scare and were quite full of themselves…..

by ogam5 on Oct 11, 2010 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

When the Isles skated out for the start of OT against Toronto and they played “We Are The Champions” over the P.A., I knew the Isles were doomed…….

by FireGarthSnow on Oct 11, 2010 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was a HS senior with a hangover that morning, which made it worse!

by FireGarthSnow on Oct 11, 2010 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was a HS senior with a hangover that morning, which made it worse!

by FireGarthSnow on Oct 11, 2010 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

heheheh

Remember, excessive drinking could lead to memory loss, liver damage, and worst of all, memory loss.

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by mikb on Oct 12, 2010 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

The four I hate the most

Strangers
Strangers
Devils
Flyers

by Torch7 on Oct 10, 2010 6:28 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Nineteen!

Forty!!!

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by Dave Cariello on Oct 11, 2010 11:55 AM EDT reply actions  

Ah

Those were the days.

Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)

by TheMetalChick on Oct 11, 2010 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

You’re not allowed to say that, when the target team has won a Stanley Cup more recently than your own team. It’s like the 19-never chant for the Devils…classic but short lived.

by earthworm on Oct 13, 2010 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

On the contrary

It’s timeless and evokes a great era, as well as the silliness of the Oilers East Cup.

Further, it’s no worse than “Potvin Sucks” — which is both a tradition and absurd based on all evidence. (Before his broadcasting career, that is.)

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by Dominik on Oct 16, 2010 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Raggin on the Rangers

I remember when I was younger any time a friend came over to my house that was a Ranger fan my dad always used to ask them where they lived. When they inevitably responded Long Island my dad would tell them to take the Ranger gear off and support LIs team.

by ArsenalLI on Oct 11, 2010 2:05 PM EDT reply actions  

LOL!

I like that.

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by Dave Cariello on Oct 11, 2010 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

And it's true.

If you live/grew up on LI, there is NO reason NOT to be an Islander fan.

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by Dave Cariello on Oct 11, 2010 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

oops…..(looks around with a grin)

by earthworm on Oct 13, 2010 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Best In All Sports

Easily the best rivalry in all sports. Many other teams have their short lived fueds with each other and the media likes to create rivalries ala Pens/Caps. No two teams let alone organizations have as much hate and animosity for each other. I have not been on LI for some years but back in the early 90’s i went to all the Isles/Rangers games and I have yet to be at a sporting event that compares to any of those games. The chants, the fights, the constant excitement, it can’t be beat anywhere.

by Zenfoeracer on Oct 11, 2010 9:13 PM EDT reply actions  

in all fairness

Yanks-Red Sox, Bears-Packers, and (to a lesser extent) Celtics-Lakers are big deals. Eagles-Cowboys is a big deal. And there are some college rivalries that get nasty. We get a big dose of Isles-Rangers in a way that not a lot of people in, say, Detroit would understand, unless you explained it in local terms (Red Wings-Avs, for example – then they’ll nod).

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by mikb on Oct 12, 2010 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've never personally seen them,

but I hear and expect the local Canadian NHL team rivalries to be really good and rough.

Go isles or Go home.

by OzzyFan on Oct 12, 2010 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

As a Ranger fan, this rivalry is not like it used to be. It is pretty non existant actually. I can honestly say I hate the Devils and the Flyers and even Pens more than the Isles. I’m not sure if its because we’re both kinda sucky or that the Flyers are just D Bags from the top of the line up to the bottom. Within the next 2 or 3 years the Islanders and rangers are going to be very good young teams so hopefully there will be a revival of the rivalry. Also, not sure if there is a bigger NHL rivalry than Boston and the Habs

by earthworm on Oct 13, 2010 9:56 PM EDT reply actions  

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May 24, 1980: Tonelli to Nystrom. At long last, the steady build of the New York Islanders from expansion doormat to surprise semifinalist to annual contender reaches the promised land: Buoyed by a late season trade for Butch Goring that gave the team the depth up the middle GM Bill Torrey had been seeking, the Islanders knock off the Philadelphia Flyers in six games.

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May 16, 1982: Another year, another landslide title. The Islanders won the Patrick Division by a whopping 26 points over the second-place Rangers, and were seven points clear of their nearest competition for the President's Trophy, the still-not-quite-ripe Edmonton Oilers.

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