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Islanders Gameday: In Phoenix, back to rolling with Rollie

These are not Wayne Gretzky's Coyotes. (And la-la-la, la-la, they aren't Balsillie's, either: Take your crackberry and ... Thppptt!). A team that was in a playoff spot before the All-Star break last year will likely be in a playoff spot before the Olympic break this year.

Dave Tippett, for whom I'll retain a soft spot simply because I still picture him wearing the beloved Whale, has them more organized than The Great One did. He also has the good fortune of deploying better veterans and fewer undeveloped prospects than Gretzky. Will the same be said of Scott Gordon's successor, whenever that time comes way down the line, in that inevitable cycle that dominates the least steady position in hockey? And if the Yotes, 2-2-2 in their last six, falter like last year, would we readjust our Gretzky vs. Tippett conventional wisdom?

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New York Islanders (18-19-8, 11th/East) at Phoenix Coyotes (26-15-4, 4th/West)
8 p.m. EST | [is that really a dot-com?] Arena | MSG+, radio
Survivors of the Balsillie Bastardly Bombardment: Five for Howling

 

This thread is not a DiPietro-free zone by any means, but if you want to talk The Franchise's start last night, there is a healthy discussion in comments for the recap of last night's game. (Cheers to everybody for a great game thread last night, too.) Barring unforeseen circumstances -- never something you rule out in Islanders Country -- the ball goes back to Dwayne Roloson tonight, which means we have a fighting chance.

That's not to imply defeat. It's just the Islanders are an inconsistent team -- "cantilevered," Chickendirt called their roster -- whose top half is skilled but still developing, and whose bottom half is ... not skilled but frequently hard-working. As fans, we spend a lot of time analyzing 60 minutes and fretting that our team only played to its potential for 20. As realists, we know that no team, no matter how good, gives a perfect 50-60 very often. But teams like Washington can stink for 40 minutes and then turn it on for the win. Teams like the Isles lack that luxury.

Teams like the Coyotes -- pretty skilled, well defended, and very well coached -- deliver a solid, frustrating 40 to 50 with impressive frequency.

Star-divide

Aucoin, Aucoin, My Pine for Aucoin

I have whined since last summer that Adrian Aucoin would have been a great stopgap addition to stabilize the Isles blueline without committing long-term. Just like his Islanders days, the 36-year-old is leading the 'Yotes in ice time at 23:21, and he's scored 6-13-19. He averages over three minutes a night on both the powerplay and the penalty kill. None of those six goals have come on the PP, but seven of his assists have. As always with free agents, the question is: But would he have signed here?

The Coyotes are not a dynamic offensive team, but they're a Tippett team: A balanced team that's strong defensively and backed up by a good (and hilarious) goalie in Ilya Bryzgalov. Shane Doan leads them with the same number of points as John Tavares, who we all know is in one humdinger of a rookie slump. (Incidentally, with last nights points Matt Moulson and Kyle Okposo take over the team lead at 29 points.) Phoenix scores just a hair more than the Isles (2.49 GF/gm vs. 2.44), but they concede much less (2.31 GA/gm vs. 3.00).

Ignoring the roster decision that will come whenever Sean Bergenheim is re-introduced, we'll need a trademark Roloson night: I think he'll be up for it, with the rest last night, his familiarity with Western teams, and the opportunity to provide authoritative contrast to last night's rust in goal. It would help if Ilya had one of his rare (this year) off nights, too. And of course, there's that Quixotic hope for 60 minutes from the rest of our squad.

Make It a Happy Road Trip

Short preview today. Lots going on personally (I'm very grateful DiPietro's return was last night instead of tonight). I will schedule the game thread as per usual, but I won't be able to catch any of this game live. So have fun if you're around. Last night's was fun and the different reactions to DP in the recap were dynamite.

With a win or OTL, the Islanders make this a successful three-game trip. So Let's-go, Isl-an-ders.

Prediction: Josh Bailey's continues his hot little run, and so does the goalie who is as old as DiPietro will be when his contract expires.

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Not sure how much you followed the Coyotes, but all signs point towards Gretzky being part of the problem. He supposedly continually changed systems and by all accounts just didn’t have the head for being a head coach. He might have worked out better with a team of veterans, but he apparently has no place trying to develop youngsters in the NHL.

Personally, I’m shocked that teams STILL give contracts to great or legendary players. It seems to almost never work out and comes off as more of a publicity stunt in the long run. Not just the NHL, but the NFL, MLB and NBA.

"So basically, the Stats make no sense whatsoever."

by Mark D on Jan 9, 2010 4:15 PM EST reply actions  

I generally subscribe to that theory

Not only with what happened with Gretzky in Phoenix overall (though … how do I put this? He actually did better than I expected, which isn’t saying much) but for legendary players coaching overall.

They notoriously see the game differently than average and even above-average players. For them to communicate what they intuitively see to mere mortals, and for them to actually understand what mere mortals think/feel/see when they’re out there, is very difficult, apparently. Almost like a brilliant artist trying to relate how it is he/she works and transfers inspiration to the canvas/music/movement.

Lighthouse Hockey: Under contract through 2021, knees and hips be damned.

by Dominik on Jan 9, 2010 6:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Not just the NHL, but the NFL,

Not that I like to pick the nit, but there are quite a few NFL greats that went on to become fairly good coaches. That being said, I agree with the majority of your point

It seems to almost never work out

Great players do not normally equal great coaches. They just can not put into words how they did what they did. “Just do what I did and shoot the puck in the net!”

SHOOOOOOOT!!!! Anon

by burpchelischili on Jan 9, 2010 5:08 PM EST reply actions  

All that, and a reply fail to boot!

SHOOOOOOOT!!!! Anon

by burpchelischili on Jan 9, 2010 5:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Head Coaches or Positional/Co-ordinators?

"So basically, the Stats make no sense whatsoever."

by Mark D on Jan 9, 2010 7:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Prediction: Josh Bailey’s continues his hot little run, and so does the goalie who is as old as DiPietro will be when his contract expires

HA!
LOVE it.

Let Us Go, Islanders!
(Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)

by TheMetalChick on Jan 9, 2010 5:12 PM EST reply actions  

Ha

I meant to look that up when you mentioned it last night. I couldn’t remember what the Muse guy looked like. I can see it.

Lighthouse Hockey: Under contract through 2021, knees and hips be damned.

by Dominik on Jan 9, 2010 6:30 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm going to a wedding tonight

And the best I’m going to be able to do is obsessively check box scores from my girlfriend’s iPhone.

I predict/sincerely hope for another Okposo goal, because this team needs as many hot scorers as it can get tonight.

by ilopan on Jan 9, 2010 5:52 PM EST reply actions  

Sweet.

That’s a good girlfriend. In November last season, I had four weddings and the Isles played every night. That was not fun, particularly since it was all of December 2008 that I really could have done without witnessing.

Lighthouse Hockey: Under contract through 2021, knees and hips be damned.

by Dominik on Jan 9, 2010 6:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Aucoin Pining

I mostly agree with your point that Oakie would be a good short-term fit but I think as Islanders fans we saw him in his old NHL, prime of his career glory. Sure he would be serviceable, but I think we would be disappointed in his form because he saw him at his 30 minute a game best.

I have an ego larger than Mikko Koskinen

by David Hanssen on Jan 9, 2010 7:20 PM EST reply actions  

I had actually written him off before last season. I was pleased the Isles got him in his prime, then let Chicago overpay him. But his year with Calgary last season got me interested in him again as a stopgap. Nice to see that wasn’t just a product of a deep Flames team.

Lighthouse Hockey: Under contract through 2021, knees and hips be damned.

by Dominik on Jan 12, 2010 12:40 AM EST up reply actions  

is Meyer in for Witt

Witt seems to b not performing up to snuff lately maybe eyes in the skys (press box) gives him a new percpective, anyways worth a shot or are we making to many excuses for the vet and just have to admit he’s lost alot more than just a step

by steelermafia on Jan 9, 2010 7:31 PM EST reply actions  

luv to get our hands on

Jovanowski and Doan

Jov – I think he’s the perfect fit along with Streit to bring in our new Defence crop of the future. He’s at the right age combined with experience to get us a cup, i believe he still has 1 more yr on his contract and at 33yrs still have some quality yr ahead of him

Doan – see above (basicaly do what their doing in the dessert but now on the Island with better youthful talent)

by steelermafia on Jan 9, 2010 7:38 PM EST reply actions  

I'd certainly take both

I think Doan will be the last thing to leave Phoenix before it burns to the ground though. He seems admirably wed to staying there and making it work.

Lighthouse Hockey: Under contract through 2021, knees and hips be damned.

by Dominik on Jan 12, 2010 12:38 AM EST up reply actions  

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