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Islanders 6*, Thrashers 5 (*SO): These teams, they bleed goals

Saturday night smiles in this sweet shade of blue never get old.

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Saturday night smiles in this sweet shade of blue never get old.

Two points is two points, but man: Three times the Islanders built a three-goal lead on the Thrashers, and three times they didn't get the next goal. The final time, Atlanta climbed all the way back with an Ilya Kovalchuk third-period powerplay goal that felt inevitable by that point.

It's never a dull night with these two teams.

Game Sum. | Event Sum. | Corsi | Recaps: nhl.com | Islanders | Post



Fun with Numbers, Dangers Of

I've been linking to the Corsi figure for each game recently, and one thing you'll see regularly is that Andy Sutton and Jack Hillen have been the biggest negatives in that column on recent nights. (Negative Corsi = more shots directed at your net (including misses/blocks) than at the other guys' net during your EV shifts.) That's reflective of a few things, one of which is they've been playing against the other team's top line, as they did tonight.

Difference is, tonight they got lit up by the Thrashers' Russian guns not in shots (+5 and +6 Corsi, respectively) but in goals (three EV goals, plus the PP one). Part of that may be that they're not the shut down pairing Scott Gordon is currently deploying them to be. The other part may be that Kovalchuk/Antropov/Afinogenov is a really freaking good line when it wants to be.

Momentum Blow of the Night

There were many when you blow a three-goal lead at home, but: Call it lack of forecheck to start the period, call it lack of backside pressure to help the D, call it lack of Andy Sutton mobility to back in so far and give Maxim Afinogenov such a prime chance from the slot: Whatever you call it, building a three-goal first-period lead only to let the opposition get one back 50 seconds into the second is not cool, man.

Star-divide

Video Highlights (amusingly condensed, given the flood of goals)


  • Matt Moulson scored from a spot where few Islanders regularly tread: On top of the crease, the "dirty" area. Jon Sim goes there and sometimes finds an acorn. Moulson goes there and also has a shot that can convert from further out. Nice to see Moulson, who's in a dry spell, get one from being where he needs to be.
  • What, exactly was The Moose doing on the Richard Park goal? Goalies really shouldn't end up two feet to the right of their crease on plays that start innocently along the boards.
  • Brendan Witt feathering a pass to Trent Hunter for the goal: One of the few times in the last month where a defenseman's pinch created the desired result, and it came from Witt of all people.
  • Frans Nielsen's backhand deke in the shootout: As automatic as anywhere you can get in the NHL (even more than the Jeff Tambellini wrister, which was also absolutely sick tonight). But it's not just that the Frans move itself fools goalies, it's the fact he can get a backhand shot up so high and so close to the inside of the post. That's just hard to defend, period.
  • I'll get my cheap Jon Sim rip in here: When Josh Bailey is making a fool-two-guys pass like that, even snakebit Jon Sim is going to bury it from the slot. But seriously, sweet pass, sweet Sim conversion.
  • Standings: With the "win," the Islanders leap Philadelphia and actually climb into a three-way tie with Atlanta and Tampa Bay for ninth place -- one point behind the Rangers, who lost in OT to Carolina. Then again, two games in hand for each of those teams is a healthy chunk in the shootout-inflated NHL.

Thanks to everybody who chimed in the game thread. It's true for every night, but particularly when I miss a game live, it's fun coming back to read how everybody saw the game. One chuckler, from quin8722 after (I believe) Jon Sim scored:

I was going to complain that they looked disorganized because of the line juggling…that’s why I’m not Scott Gordon

And now my sprockets we must dance. Wait, no: Now fellow Isles fans, we have a breather. The second game of 2010 is Wednesday in Colorado, the start of a three-game Western trip. In the interim, we can open this (hopefully much better) decade by looking back, a few more times, at the best of the one just ended.

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You know whats sad?

That because of this game, Biron is going to start the next game. Which means after this outburst they aren’t going to score. I just checked his game log and out of 15 starts, 9 times the Isles scored 1 goal or less. 4 times he’s started and they’ve scored 2 goals and he’s 0-2-2. Twice they’ve scored more then 3 goals and they are both of his wins. Biron also has our only shutout of the year.

Rollie meanwhile only has 3 games in which the Isles scored 1 goal or less. Its crazy that the difference between the two is that big.

"So basically, the Stats make no sense whatsoever."

by WebBard on Jan 3, 2010 9:14 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Yeeeeah.

I’m stoked to see the Isles in Denver. Gonna be awesome.

A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.

by SlamDunkTheFunk on Jan 3, 2010 9:38 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Duchene V Tavares

Im not excited to see Duchene fly against our boys… I watched a few Avs games earlier in the season and he was the fastest skater on the ice. Its gonna be depressing watching him go down the sideline on The Big Pylon aka Witt while JT becomes less and less of an impact on every game I see

by Big Swoopty on Jan 3, 2010 9:42 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Interestingly enough

Duchene has been the lesser star between him and O’Reilly. Never heard of a second rounder having this kind of splash immediately after being drafted.

by BCISLEMAN on Jan 3, 2010 9:47 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Swoopy, I dont want to sound delusionally optimistic or anything, as this is the toughest stretch of games the Isles have faced in a while. However, we have seen the Isles up against the best of the best and they have won a number of those games. Just because he is fast doesnt mean he is beating us… unless the Isles beat themselves.

Let Us Go, Islanders!
(Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)

by TheMetalChick on Jan 3, 2010 8:01 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, every rookie has dry spells. Duchene could score two goals and Tavares could have another empty night and I’m not going to fret about it too much in the big picture.

Lighthouse Hockey: Eyes on Tavares, mug full of Moulson.

by Dominik on Jan 3, 2010 8:46 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

My guess?

O’Reilly will have a better game than either of them.

by BCISLEMAN on Jan 4, 2010 2:42 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Oh yeah absolutely… just where I am comming from is a point of frustration with our overall team speed hamstringing our offensive options a bit. Hunter,Weight,Sim,Moulson, and Tavares combined is just too slow for me. They are playing well right now and If they continue to do that with the slow skaters that they have then I will continue watching and celebrating the W’s. Im just looking about that next step for our team to become a contender and I would love having a few more young speedsters to open things up for Johnny instead of the slow parade.

all that said… a win is a win and il take a 1-0 win on a bounce off of Jon Sims baldspot instead of a loss… lets keep it going

by Big Swoopty on Jan 3, 2010 10:24 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Game Thoughts

Tambellini took 2 bad penalties and despite Billy Jaffe’s protestations he was guilty both times. That interference penalty was the textbook definition of interference. I was glad he wasn’t scratched tonight, I think he’s a good player and it takes good players to win hockey games but he needs to stop taking stupid penalties.

Bailey had a really good game – I like the way he’s been playing. More aggressive, more killer instinct. That spin pass to Sim was highlight reel. He almost had another goal too – he rang one off the post.

On the power play the biggest problem is they are having trouble getting set up inside the zone. As soon as they got over the bluleline the Thrashers were pressuring the puck. They need to send their extra guy into the corner so the puck carrier can just throw it into the corner and they can get it set up. Once they get it set up its a pretty good power play but man they are having all kinds of trouble getting it set up.

by TMS on Jan 3, 2010 12:40 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Great points

Tambellini, as thin a layer of ice as he is on, simply cannot afford to be putting the team down.

I agree with the powerplay setup issue — I just wonder who are the guys that are willing/fast enough to get to the corner and sizable enough to win the battle for possession. Seems when the Isles go dumping, the other team’s PK unit has an easy time winning it and clearing it out.

Lighthouse Hockey: Eyes on Tavares, mug full of Moulson.

by Dominik on Jan 3, 2010 7:55 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I honestly think that second call on Tambs was weak as anything. A guy like Pronger can cross check someone into the boards and knock out their teeth and its fine and dandy, but Tambs cant knock someone bigger than him while battling for puck possession without getting a penalty? Its so inconsistent.

Let Us Go, Islanders!
(Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)

by TheMetalChick on Jan 3, 2010 7:58 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I thought that call was lame as well

Especially when I saw the replay.

Think even the Atlanta announcers thought it was lame.

by Chickendirt on Jan 3, 2010 8:52 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

the fact is that play happens 20-30 times a game, and for some reason, because the player didn’t think tambs would shoulder him, he cried and it got a call…

why isn't #16 hanging in the rafters?

by bob l on Jan 4, 2010 11:58 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

It was the timing.

He hit him too early, it was clear. I knew the ref was going to call interference as soon as he hit him. Other than the timing there was nothing wrong with the hit but it was too early.

by TMS on Jan 4, 2010 2:01 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

hogwash (yeah i said it, lol) i say it only because of this: think of most dump-ins to the corner, the D man glides back, then 6-8feet, and even up to 12 feet from the boards, they shift momentum, throwing shoulders at each other like Rams in mating season, and most of the time, the other dman comes in for support and skates away with the puck…

it’s really only the inconsistency that bothers me

why isn't #16 hanging in the rafters?

by bob l on Jan 4, 2010 3:00 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs


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Josh Bailey 12 C 10/2/1989 188 6-1
Sean Bergenheim 20 LW 2/8/1984 205 5-10
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Blake Comeau 57 RW 2/18/1986 207 6-1
Bruno Gervais 8 D 10/3/1984 205 6-1
Trevor Gillies 14 LW 1/30/1979 215 6-3
Jack Hillen 38 D 1/24/1986 200 5-11
Trent Hunter 7 RW 7/5/1980 210 6-3
Tim Jackman 28 RW 11/14/1981 210 6-4
Dustin Kohn 56 D 2/2/1987 200 6-2
Andrew MacDonald 47 D 9/7/1986 188 6-1
Matt Martin 46 LW 3/8/1989 192 6-2
Freddy Meyer 44 D 1/4/1981 192 5-10
Matt Moulson 26 LW 11/1/1983 206 6-1
Frans Nielsen 51 C 4/24/1984 172 5-11
Kyle Okposo 21 RW 4/16/1988 200 6-1
Richard Park 10 RW 5/27/1976 190 5-11
Dylan Reese 42 D 8/29/1984 195 6-0
Dwayne Roloson 30 G 10/12/1969 180 6-1
Jon Sim 16 LW 9/29/1977 195 5-10
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