Islanders Gameday: Hello, kitty; Thompson's goodbye; NHL same ol'
[Update: Tampa Bay has claimed Nate Thompson off waivers. Wow.]
Tomas Vokoun is on one of those Vokoun runs. He was brilliant in shutting out Atlanta a few nights ago, and last night allowed only one goal to the Devils. Fortunately, the Panthers offense is also on one of those runs: Their lone goal against the Thrashers was flukey, and last night they came up empty against Martin Brodeur. Dem Cats slumpin'.
Who faces them today? We'll see. [Update: Per Botta, it's Roloson.] Fun small-sample fact: After a rough first start, Rick DiPietro now leads the team with a 1.96 GAA and .926 save percentage.
I have a dirty secret (alright, I have several -- but what's it to you?): I like the Southeast Division. (In the tradition of old divisional names, can we call it the Esposito Division? Phil and his ability to woo mysterious Japanese investors is probably most responsible for its existence.) I like the Southeast because they play some wide-open hockey -- the Panthers' 1-0 win over Atlanta excluded -- and, if you exchanged their attendance figures and franchise histories with those of the Adams Division, you'd like them, too.
If you recall Islanders-Thrashers matchups in the Scott Gordon-John Anderson era, you know they're crazy goalfests, usually to our benefit. The kind that would make Jacques Lemaire quit. The flip-side is that Isles-Panthers games this season in the Gordon-Peter DeBoer era have been to the Panthers' benefit. A 7-1 disaster in December and a come-from-behind 4-4 Panthers shootout win a month earlier.
And as if we needed more motivation, this is a playoff fight, folks: A Panthers regulation win gives them an identical record to the Isles. Their special teams are, no surprise, better. But you have to like the way the Isles are playing.
Jiggsy Back in the House
Jiggs McDonald is back, but with a catch: He's filling in for former Quebec Nordique, Sabre, Ranger and Panther Randy Moller on the Panthers radio broadcast. I'm hoping you can listen to him at this feed.
Meanwhile, Matt Moulson gets some love from nhl.com. Mostly uses quotes that were in his post-game video the other night, but with a little bit of context added in.
Roster Shenanigans
Unless you were in the morgue (if so: Yes, you landed the plane safely), you know Andy Sutton received a two-game suspension for his check from behind on Pascal Dupuis. Word around everywhere is to expect fleet-footed Dustin Kohn to be called up and get some NHL action. That prospect excites me. Will he be paired with ol' Bridgeport buddy Andrew MacDonald? Will he get the "ease in with Streit" treatment?
Islanders 2009-10 record without Andy Sutton: 2-4-0. With Sutton: 20-16-8. Note: When Sutton returned from injury Dec. 14, the Panthers trounced the Isles 7-1.
Transparent with Customers? Not the NHL's Job, Apparently
For the record, I am not opposed to Sutton's suspension. And before I go off, the NHL -- out of business necessity, I reckon -- has done a very nice job giving info to fans in the new media department.
But: If you want confirmation on just how much of an oblivious world the NHL's hockey ops lives in -- and of course they're not the only business that does this -- get a load of their official statement about the suspension. As always, it is "for an incident in game #xxx." They name the on-ice penalty, but they never describe what happened (check from behind) nor expand upon their rationale (e.g. Check all that apply: we saw blood, there was injury, it looked bad, it was dangerous, it happened on Hockey Night in Canada, Don Cherry phoned us, the guy was hit "real hard," it happened to a star, etc.). No quote from Colin Campbell or any such clown. As always, we are left to watch the video ... and guess which criteria are at play for how many games. I'm not asking for a 20-page Supreme Court ruling; but a few specifics would be nice. A hint of some standard to follow.
Never mind that we are the customers, that it is our money through tickets, TV, merchandise, (not to mention daily promotion of their product through sites such as this) that supports this league despite its many attempts to get us to throw up our hands in disgust. No, we don't deserve an answer. Maybe when there is a controversy, or when a reporter is lucky enough to get some choice Campbell quotes, then we get something like "We treat each incident as separate" and get another horrifying glimpse into just how bass-ackward the NHL's Ministry of Random Discipline and Rare Explanations is. Otherwise, it is none of our business. We're just fans. Just know that a player was hurt, a player was suspended for an incident in game #738, and good luck guessing the next decision.
Simply: Explaining and clarifying rules, suspension rulings, regulations -- and anything else that affects the game, be it salary cap or waivers or rosters or in-game rules or replays -- is something the NHL owes its fans. It's also good business, because it encourages buy-in as opposed to resentment. But Campbell's handlers don't see it that way, or can't get him to play along without Ron McLean holding his hand.
Nate Thompson Says Thanks
I don't think many doubt Nate Thompson's courage and willingness to do anything for the team. When I think of Thompson, I think of a guy who fights when no one else (outside of Tim Jackman) will, and a guy who mans the suicidal top of the triangle on 5-on-3s, throwing his body in front of point-blank slapshots in the slot. This sounds harsh, but: There is a place for guys who in that situation are willing to sacrifice bodily health to stop a goal when the odds for a goal are stacked -- particularly if it's better for the team's next 4 to 6 weeks that no one more important break their foot.
But it's a cutthroat game at this level, where the top percentile of the world's elite play. Many of us are hard on Thompson's continued place in the lineup not because of his character, but because his place was always destined to be bumped once this lineup got deeper. And this lineup is now deeper.
Still, part of me always appreciates guys like him. Their presence and sacrifice often keeps more naturally talented teammates honest -- a subtle reminder that you're lucky, and you need to bust your tail to make the most of this -- which is why coaches like them. Coaches are often overly loyal to those they know, but Thompson is a coach's favorite because he'll do the dirty work, he'll do whatever is needed, no questions asked.
When the Isles claimed him off waivers from Boston, the word was the Bruins were disappointed because they saw those traits in him, too. Is it possible the defensively oriented Alaskan would be a better fit for a system like Claude Julien's? Maybe. But in Gordon Land, his limited skillset has stuck out more over time. On the penalty kill, guys like Frans Nielsen and Sean Bergenheim simply get better results.
Still, I've always looked at Thompson like this: Would I rather have a one-trick enforcer sitting on the bench, getting five minutes a night while waiting for the chance to do the ritual dance with the other team's enforcer? Or would I rather have a guy who can skate, take a faceoff, drop the gloves when things get silly, and kill a penalty, even if his aggregate stats show him to be less effective at that than a high-end player? The third option is having a player better than either one -- and that's where the Isles are now, and that's why this is a good sign for the rebuild.
I don't know if this is goodbye for Thompson [update: yes, apparently it is], but he was reflective and all class when talking about this roster move to Katie Strang of Newsday (that'll be $5):
"I have the utmost respect for Scott Gordon and Garth Snow for giving me an opportunity in the first place. Whatever happens, I'll just keep working hard and do whatever it takes to make it back to the NHL and show what I can do."
...Garth Snow: "Nate's played well for us. He's a good person and he's been a high-character guy for us. This by no means means that he won't be back with us at some point. It's just a move we had to make."
Best of luck to him in Bridgeport or wherever the road leads. And if and when he comes back, hopefully he brings just the sandpaper the Isles need at that time.
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Prediction: There will be goals. Lots. And Jiggsy sounds just a liiiiittle bit more excited after Josh Bailey's goal than his listeners would like.
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The Panthers sometimes make me think of Roger Nielsen, who died seven years ago this June. Was it really that long ago?! Too soon, too soon.
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I have said this before, I will say this again: Donny (Whale4ever), who runs the SBN's Panthers site Litter Box Cats, is a cool cat -- and a legit Whalers (R.I.P.) fan with some stories. Imagine having your team ripped from your hands, then imagine carrying the torch in a "non-traditional" market from back in the salad days of John Vanbiesbrouck, through the thick and thin of an owner under the spell of Mike Keenan.
I'm just saying, fans who have been tortured by owners have a few things to share over a beer.
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Tonight's Game
Awesome write up as usual Dominik. I’m going to try to use your link to hear Jiggs in the press box tonight. But then… Maybe I’ll be SEEING him too!
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Aww, enjoy that. I’m pretty intrigued: I don’t think I’ve ever heard him call another team’s game as their “homer” voice before.
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Thompson
I like players like Thompson and wish the NHL had more players like him, i.e. guys that play with some passion vs. a talented floater (read: Yashin).
As a moderator for a low traffic hockey fight message board, I think it’s safe to say the majority on the board would not mind seeing the supergoon WWE side show act fade into oblivion. We would love more guys like Rick Rypien and I would love Colton Orr on the Isles protecting JT. Orr actually has some skills outside of fighting and should model his game after Tim Kerr: Plant yourself in front of the net, screen the goalie and pick up garbage goals. I thought the Isles should have done that with Godard but I really don’t think he possesses the skating or checking ability that Orr shows.
You can’t tell me that some of the best Islander – Ranger games did not feature Bomber and Domi. No?
You can’t tell me that some of the best Islander – Ranger games did not feature Bomber and Domi. No?
Oh definitely. Those days were something else. But the way the game has changed and been called the last few years, the one-dimensional fighters just stick out to where it’s almost sad. Brashear’s hit on Betts last year looked like a guy who’d wandered into the wrong game and couldn’t find a playmate.
I always cite Gillies, which I know is an impossible standard (and today, a guy like Gillies would probably make so much money they’d discourage him from fighting), but like you said, I prefer fights by guys who have some other actual skills, and I prefer the happen somewhat organically rather than by appointment.
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Brashear
ol Huggy Bear could play the game at one point in his career; he’s too old and slow now though to be anything other than a fighter (and age has taken a toll in that department as well).
Last year Lucic crosschecked Lapierre in the face during the playoffs and Komisarek did not immediately drop his gloves and punch Lucic. He eventually did drop his gloves when the linesman had them separated (a lot of good that did). It was if he knew the league would view the act of retaliation as a worse offense than the original infraction. This is a big problem with today’s game (imo).
Justin Bourne (Bob Bourne’s son) wrote and good column about these types of non-actions by players.
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/hockey/columnist/bourne/2009-11-16-player-protection_N.htm
It was if he knew the league would view the act of retaliation as a worse offense than the original infraction. This is a big problem with today’s game (imo).
Indeed. The current environment has made the instigator rule the biggest sore thumb of all. If the game has thinned out the WWE sideshow types, then you don’t have to worry about instigated sideshows, and you can allow the ephemeral dream of “players policing themselves.”
I agree on Brashear: He once brought more, but now, like Laraque (cut by the Habs today) it is no more.
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Has anyone questioned Gordon on what he thinks of Waiving Thompson? I know that was one of his guys and this has to be bittersweet knowing that you have no choise but to sit him in place of more talent.
I am starting to believe that the guy that hit Brendan Witt with the SUV was Swiss.
Interesting question
I haven’t seen it anywhere. But since he’d scratched him for some of their best games recently I suppose he at least found him not essential to proceedings.
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Botta on IPB posted this about gogo and nate…
“I asked Gordon if it was difficult to place Thompson on waivers, considering how much the coach played Thompson in critical situations this season. In a very nice way, Gordon said that when it came to "the administrative stuff," I should speak with Garth Snow. "A move had to be made," said Gordon.”
why isn't #16 hanging in the rafters?
If I read that right, I can’t help thinking that’s a good sign, a functioning relationship: The GM makes the tough decisions, with the benefit of a little distance; the coach maintains a diplomatic “I like my players” stance.
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sounds like he knew they had to risk it, but he probably woulda preferred tambs waived, and now theres a bigger hole to dig out of for him
why isn't #16 hanging in the rafters?
It is hard to read Gordon but I would think that he would have to feel good for Thompson as he has been picked up by Tampa. It is a shame that we will have to face him so often but I hope he has a great stay in Tampa.
I am starting to believe that the guy that hit Brendan Witt with the SUV was Swiss.
by metalcoconut on Jan 21, 2010 1:58 PM EST up reply actions
I mentioned one time of how during the late 90s as the season wound down they’d talk about guys like Steve Webb and the other Islanders 4th liners and how next season they’d probably woun’t be around as the young guys come up. Then they’d be back next season as our prospects were busts.
Thompson was another teams spare part, and he was a good pickup for a team last year that just needed bodies. Now we’ve improved and its time for him to be a spare part again. Its another step of the team moving forward.
"So basically, the Stats make no sense whatsoever."
Great rightup
I havent missed an Isles game in ATL in 6 years and they have been good ones. It will be good hearing Jiggs again tonight.
Anyone know any updates on Lightouse/Brooklyn/Queens.. needless to say Newsday has been cut out of my website rotation
Thank ya’. As for the Lighthouse Project, they and the pols have been quiet on all fronts. Hard to tell what the next bombshell news will be.
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Badly needed two points
Need to get ol’ Mo back on track and need these two points going into matchups with Devs ans Caps. If we get sven out of next eight possible points, we will be at 59 needing 11 points in 8 games to reach 70 by the break…and be a legit contender.
I was there for the 7-1 Isles loss
And I sincerely hope the boys can redeem themselves on that account as well as bounce back from that odd, spirit-sapping game in Pittsburgh.
…and plan to play him tonight! I did not expect that. But he’s inexpensive and the Lightning have become nothing if not cheap.
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Hooray!
Well, great for us that we don’t have thompson any more.
Good Guy, maybe. Not right for this team, definitely. And Gordon would’ve played him later in the year.
So
who is being brought up?
No Thompson, Sutton or Jackman make this team rather soft and vulnerable. Maybe Reich gets called up and Tambellini goes down. I had high hopes for Tambellini and maybe he hasn’t gotten a fair shake in the deal but the coaching staff must see something they don’t like.
No one, I reckon
Jackman and Witt are each on IR, so they have two more decisions to make before bringing anyone else up. With three goalies, Snow has a nice juggle on his hands.
Tambellini’s an interesting case; I was dubious that he’s a risk for being claimed, but if someone claimed Thompson…who knows? But about that: If you can’t fetch a trade for Tambellini and you’re not going to play him, what’s the risk in waiving him?
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The Isles don't need to replace Thompson
Sutton will be back next week to replace Kohn. Unless Snow moves Biron (very likely if DP looks good Saturday) I don’t see much in roster moves. 22 on the roster for now will work until Jackman comes back.
If they waive Tambi you know someone would claim him. Then he would score 30 goals and make Snow look foolish. Therefore you know that is not going to happen.
I am starting to believe that the guy that hit Brendan Witt with the SUV was Swiss.
by metalcoconut on Jan 21, 2010 2:11 PM EST up reply actions
I was unaware that Tambellini is out of options. Yeah, then I wouldn’t waive him because he’ll get claimed.
Tambi’s one way contract was supposed to give him the confidence to play in the NHL. Apparenly the only thing that it has done is tie Snow’s hands because he can’t go to Bridgeport.
I am starting to believe that the guy that hit Brendan Witt with the SUV was Swiss.
by metalcoconut on Jan 21, 2010 2:21 PM EST up reply actions
Actually, he’d have to pass through waivers no matter what (one-way or two-way contract). So splitting hairs here, but it’s possible that his one-way contract would make him less attractive to other teams.
Right now though, his scoring rate for this season sticks out like a “BUY ME NOW!” sign. Probably more enticing to buyers than Schremp was.
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I'm okay with the Sutton suspension
Hits from behind have to be punished and a vet like Andy should know better. A two game rest for the oft injured vet can’t hurt him anyway. I’m excited if Kohn gets a chance tonight.
I won’t miss Thompson especially with Jackman due back soon.
Kohn
Will he be paired with ol’ Bridgeport buddy Andrew MacDonald? Will he get the “ease in with Streit” treatment?
I certainly hope that he gets paired with aMac, I saw several Sound Tigers games with the two of them paired together and they worked well as the top pairing/shut down dmen. They’ve played together for the better part of two seasons, so I would like to see Kohn get broken in with someone he’s familiar with. Kohn seems to be the forgotten defense prospect, and I think that’s a mistake. He’s played well and really stepped up his game this year.
To fight the horde, sing and cry: Valhalla I am coming!
That sounds like a plan.
On prospects, every time I’m reminded of his age (about to turn 23), I remember that’s still young for a defenseman. With his skating he could still make himself an NHLer. So many candidates, so few jobs.
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3rd jerseys
Hi Dom-
Great blog-I read it every day. This is my first post.
Someone mentioned that the Islanders 3rd Jersey will now become their standard home jersey. Did you hear anything about that?
What a difference from last year when we almost didn’t have a goalie to play in one game and Garth Snow was considering putting on the pads. Now we have more (healthy) players than we can play and decent, quality players like Thompson go on waivers. I much prefer this problem over last year’s player shortage.
Welcome
Thanks for joining. Yes, the word is the 3rds will be home, and a more traditional white will be the road next year. I’d expect something like what Bridgeport is using this year.
Last year vs. this year: Oh-ho yes. Here we are, 50 games in, and all things considered this second year of the rebuild is going quite well. Certainly at the top of my range of preseason expectations. It’s really a joy to watch.
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Dom, if the scouting report on the lightning link you provided us any indication, no wonder they picked him up, it makes him sound like Eric Lindros who hasn’t reached his scoring potential yet!
Claude LaPointe didn't make as good a pun, sadly.
by LaChance at Glory on Jan 21, 2010 3:24 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Well he is comparable to a Lindros
Brett Lindros that is!
To fight the horde, sing and cry: Valhalla I am coming!
by David Hanssen on Jan 21, 2010 3:41 PM EST up reply actions
Did he have a series of undisclosed concussions as well? Bummer… LOL!
I am starting to believe that the guy that hit Brendan Witt with the SUV was Swiss.
by metalcoconut on Jan 21, 2010 5:01 PM EST up reply actions
LOL
Yeah that was a good one. Hockey’s Future from waaaay back, me thinks. Actually, come to think of it, I wouldn’t put it past Lightning management…
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Just imagine what they would say about Sim.
I am starting to believe that the guy that hit Brendan Witt with the SUV was Swiss.
by metalcoconut on Jan 21, 2010 5:03 PM EST up reply actions
Nevertheless I think Joel Rechlicz can be Thompson v 2.0 if they were hard pressed to duplicate that role, they even look the same.
Claude LaPointe didn't make as good a pun, sadly.
by LaChance at Glory on Jan 21, 2010 5:16 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Heh, I’d grant the physical resemblance — but The Wrecker isn’t even regularly cracking the Bridgeport lineup!
There are a few nice older AHLers down there though. Mauldin and Moore are doing well, and if we need to put on the foil, Reich and Morrency can bring the crazy.
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Didn't Mauldin play a game or two last year?
The name sounds very familiar and I’m not really up on most of Bport’s roster.
No, they signed him this summer along with Moore and some other “M” guy … Matt Mawlson I think? ;)
[I’m poking fun at myself, because when the signings were announced, I just thought "A bunch of AHLers whose names begin with “M.” Now one is on pace for nearly 30 goals.]
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LOL! Yeah, I remember that! Listening to preseason games and reading players lists and being like MattMartinMoulsonMorrencyMauldin…
I remember thinking that the Isles could have their weekly injury “M-name” call up… assuming none of them would make the team outright. HA!
The funniest thing is that, if someone had come back from the future and told me that one of the AHL-bound “M-crew” would be our teams leading goal scorer, I would have totally believed it… but I would have thought to myself, “OMG the Isles are so injured that some AHL scrub with like 8 goals is leading the team in goals at the 50 game mark!” and cried.
Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)
by TheMetalChick on Jan 22, 2010 11:25 AM EST up reply actions
thanks for the radio feed
Living in Chicago I don’t get to see/hear too many Islander games. I enjoyed listening tonight. Jiggs was a bonus. Many thanks!
by Displaced Isle Fan on Jan 21, 2010 10:35 PM EST reply actions
Haven't you figured out how to use the streams from PTP yet?
That’s how I watch my games
No problem
Next time the Isles visit Chicago, let us know if you’re going or watching. I like to make that one when I can.
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