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Grading the Islanders: Mark Streit, Garth's 'I'm Max Talbot' card

As 2009-10 training camp nears, we're getting to the final group of player eval's for 2008-09. (Sticking to regulars here, so Andy Sutton gets an incomplete, while Thomas Pock is mercifully allowed to move on without us parsing through the ashes of his stint here.)

Next up is Mark Streit: A+, 100%, blue star, big smiley face, perfect 10. The end. (Man, that was easy.)

Star-divide

Okay, not so fast. While it's pretty much impossible to say Mark Streit fell short of your expectations last season -- if he did, I trust you have a hair-brained thorough explanation -- it's still worth discussing just how good he is, whether he can repeat 2008-09, and whether he might even improve per his stated intentions.

No matter what, even years from now, signing the unshakable Streit for 5 years at reasonable term could go down as Garth Snow's best move. Whenever Snow is feeling overworked and wants a day off, I picture him saying, "You know what? I got them Mark Streit. I deserve a day to sit back and watch videos of my prime" (By the way, is there a better announcer for when a game erupts into a brawl than Rick Jeanneret?) Like the Penguins' Maxime Talbot, the grinder who scored two Game 7, Stanley Cup-clinching goals and will never have to buy a drink in Pittsburgh again, Snow could hang his hat on the Streit signing for quite a while.

All Streit did was lead the team in scoring (while scoring 6 fewer points than the year before), and ... well let's just say if last season was a rough nightmare with Streit in the lineup, it would have been downright apocalyptic without him.


Mark Streit

#2 / Defenseman / New York Islanders

6-0

197

Dec 11, 1977

4

Contract: $4.1 million through 2012-13

Sweet! Finally a PP QB who's not a flake or injury-prone.



GP G A P +/- PIM PPG SHG TOI PPtoi SHtoi Sh%
2008 - 09  Mark Streit 74 16 40 56 6 62 10 1 25:13 5:09 2:29 10.7

Power Play

The Islanders scored 54 power play goals last season; Streit was on the ice for 36 of the 5-on-4 conversions. He had points on 29 of them -- 10 of which he scored himself. As PP QB alongside Doug Weight, it stands to reason that he would have a hand in many of their PP goals. But to me the telling thing was how much weaker the 5-on-4 unit looked when he wasn't there moving the puck and posing the threat of his shot from the point. (I looked for PP data on the games Streit missed, and it's mixed -- in part due to the changing personnel during his two stints on the shelf.)

At 16.9%, the unit as a whole ranked just 23rd in the league. Should we have expected more? Should Streit lead them higher? I suspect this season with a regular dose of Josh Bailey (who's PP figures got better as he grew more comfortable), Kyle Okposo and John Tavares, the Islanders can expect to have a more lethal man advantage. (Aside: You know which Islanders had at least 1:00 of PP TOI per game and were on for the most 5-on-4 goals per 60 minutes of man-advantage time? Jon Sim and Blake Comeau. Hmmm...)

Even Strength

Last year Streit proved himself far more than a power play specialist. In fact, of all defensemen who played a minimum 40 games last season, he ranked first in the NHL by Behind the Net's 5-on-5 relative +/- rating. Part of that is simply because he was a good defenseman on a bad team. But it's significant that while chaos and injuries surrounded him, he kept a steady hand and put up points all season long, logging major minutes in all three phases.

Penalty Kill

The Isles PK unit ranked 22nd, at 79.8%. Shorthanded is where Streit is least heralded, but he's no slouch there. It's just that his load of minutes at ES and on the PP means there are others who get the nod more often, like Brendan Witt, Radek Martinek and Bruno Gervais. But of the four, only Gervais was on for fewer 4-on-5 goals against per 60 minutes. And guess who was most likely to be on when the Islanders scored a shorthanded goal? Yep, Streit, who was on for 5 Islanders shorthanded goals. We've waded into small sample sizes here, but for what it's worth, Streit's 4-on-5 quality of competition faced was also greater than the other three chief PK blueliners.

With Martinek (theoretically) healthy for a full season and Freddy Meyer and Andy Sutton (theoretically) healthy too, it's possible Streit's PK minutes don't increase -- and might even decrease. In limited action last season, Sutton was used frequently on the PK to relatively good effect.

The Poem:

Mark Streit, our best-kept secret
Like some Swiss bank account
Keeper of our stolen assets
It's fine if no one else finds out

We lifted him from Montreal
Who thought he's just Marc-Andre Bergeron
But Garth Snow, he knew better
Habs ain't the same since Streit  been gone

Just one year into the deal
Already all the fans praise his name
If he keeps this up we'll be contenders
He'll be among the best in the game

If by Year Five we're Cup winners
Well, we'll all think that's pretty sick
And Bob Gainey will be wonderin'
Why instead he signed Roman Hamrlik

The Grade: So this is the "grade relative to your preseason expectations" game. Last July, I thought he was a great signing, but I thought we paid market rate and I'd no idea he'd be logging 25 minutes a game. Remembering him play key minutes for Team Switzerland, I knew he'd help the power play and be a solid all-around defenseman. But a legit #1, a bargain, and the envy of many teams? Serious bonus.

What were your expectations? And give what you saw last year, can he keep improving at age 31? Might the presence of someone like Sutton free him up to log even more offense-focused minutes? Beyond that, dare we say the captain of Team Switzerland should hold the same post with the Isles? Somehow I don't think Streit, who sounds simply driven to be the best he can be, would turn down the honor.

Poll
Relative to your 2008-09 preseason expectations, how do you grade Mark Streit's season?
10 - Way, way above my wildest dreams
33 votes
9
17 votes
8 - Wildest dreams territory
29 votes
7
6 votes
6 - Met expectations +
2 votes
5 - Met expectations -
0 votes
4
0 votes
3
3 votes
2 - I thought he would lead us to the Cup
1 votes
1 - I've never watched hockey before
0 votes

91 votes | Poll has closed

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My first two thoughts when he signed were:

1) “Geez, that’s a little much for a guy whose primary job will be to QB the PP, no?”
2) “If he was a defensive liability playing reduced minutes in Montreal, he’s going to look a little worse when he gets thrown into the fire on Long Island.”

Without a doubt, he exceeded my expectations… and then some. He was solid in all situations, was an offensive catalyst (hell, he led the team in points!), and showed that he’s one of the more underrated [and underappreciated] d-men in the league. Garth hit this one out of the freakin’ park.

I’m giving him a “9” – wasn’t perfect, but was pretty, pretty, pretty good. (Had to get my Larry David on, I apologize.)

by pickups on Sep 6, 2009 10:42 PM EDT reply actions  

(Had to get my Larry David on, I apologize.)

Heh, nonsense! Larry David is always welcome here.

Lighthouse Hockey: Side effects may include Weight gain and frequent game loss.

by Dominik on Sep 6, 2009 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

A Three?

Okay, Where’s the Jealous Ranger fan who voted him a three? You got Redden, we got Streit, don’t be hating.

Best player on the Isles last year, especially since he actually managed a positive +/-

by Mark D on Sep 6, 2009 11:51 PM EDT reply actions  

But can Streit act?

Max Talbot can

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by FrankD on Sep 7, 2009 2:33 AM EDT reply actions  

1. Streit can do EVERYthing.
2. That clips is excellent. Very adult-film vibe to it. Really captures the spirit of the thing.

Lighthouse Hockey: Side effects may include Weight gain and frequent game loss.

by Dominik on Sep 7, 2009 2:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

Max knows you don’t achieve Supastah status unless you hit on a front desk lady at a car dealership.

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by FrankD on Sep 7, 2009 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dear Islanders fans,

You’re welcome.

Sincerely,
Habs fans

SNN Sports - A theoretical Oilers blog (i.e. theoretically, I write stuff there)

by Doogie2K on Sep 7, 2009 3:31 AM EDT reply actions  

Thanks!

It doesn’t make up for Kirk Muller or anything, but … it’s a start.

Lighthouse Hockey: Side effects may include Weight gain and frequent game loss.

by Dominik on Sep 7, 2009 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Streit blew me away last year. I gave him a nine, but I seriously considered a ten.

Okay, Where’s the Jealous Ranger fan who voted him a three?

I still wish that you could look at who voted for what. I have decided to call it ranger-knocking. I know that it is reminiscent of a VERY pejorative term, but it is also spot on to me. They run up and hit the vote, and then run away with out leaving a comment, all so that you don’t/can’t know who they are.

SHOOOOOOOT IT!!!! Anon

by burpchelischili on Sep 7, 2009 7:13 AM EDT reply actions  

Although Streit had the best relative +/- of all defenders (obviously as he was the only permanent Isles player in the + of the basic +/- ledger), he had the third highest quality of competition on the team (behind Witt and Martinek and tied with Gervais) – so I hope that he can bring similar or better results against the toughest competition this coming year.

It is remarkable that he was on ice for 63 goals last season when the next highest total was Gervais with 39. The total ice time differences would whittle down this difference somewhat on the Isles, but this is tied for 15th overall amongst to defenceman (T-31st amongst all player) – and all the skaters above him played at least 3 more games (if Streit had played 3 more games he would have came in at 11th (for D) or T-21st (for all skaters)). Either this is elite talent or luck/good line mates (I would think Streit is the former seeing as most Isles got beaten up at even strength, and someone like Phaneuf who led the NHL with 81 as being the latter).

The most interesting reference point for looking at Streit’s performance is fellow 2008 UFA Brian Campbell. They are almost identical players statistically (e.g. points total of 56 for Streit v 52 for Campbell) excepting Campbell’s superior +/- & corsi and Streit superior quality of competition which roughly cancel out. Streit is 3 million and change cheaper per year.

So, all being said – Streit is a solid (and underrated) 9.5 from me.

by HugoAgogo on Sep 7, 2009 7:58 AM EDT reply actions  

Great stuff. I was a little overwhelmed when combing through numbers to reflect just how much he stood out. The 63-39 Streit-Gervais total is crazy — and I’m sure Gervais benefited from sharing the ice with Streit on many of those.

Lighthouse Hockey: Side effects may include Weight gain and frequent game loss.

by Dominik on Sep 7, 2009 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

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