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A more hip- and groin-friendly Islanders training camp?

They have to look at the groin and hip injuries, and that's been part of their offseason re-evaluation. They have a conditioning program targeted at strengthening those areas. They also have to tailor the offseason preparation to be ready to skate when they get to camp because Scott Gordon runs a different style of camp in which they focus on system work, which involves a lot of stops and starts, rather than playing games every day as in the past.

>>Newsday's Greg Logan, back in his May 19 chat

We're on Year Three of an injury scourge for the Islanders, which is both a nice excuse for hard times and a sporadic cause for rabid fan calls of "Fire the trainer!" or "Stone the doctor!" and such. [Note: The table linked above had projected figures as of March. The Isles finished 2008-09 with 583 man-games lost, by most reports.]

The Islanders, for their part, made the fan perception side of this worse last year by dickering around with Rick DiPietro's rehab (or rather, dickering with the public communication of its progress, thus building reason for distrust like some such Bettman statement), beginning with 2008 summer's initial surgery and continuing into the New Year and this Spring, when they finally shut DiPietro down. The club got much better at communicating injuries since then, but the damage is still there.

But that's behind us. Or at least a tired and beaten issue, until we see how DiPietro returns from his latest rehab. [This is the part where you say, "IF he returns..."] For the Islanders, hope of an improvement in the standings this year rests nearly as much on a change in their injury luck as it does on the emergence of John Tavares Superstar.

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Logan rightly pointed out that a healthy (ha) portion of last season's dynasty-sized injury list was due to broken bones (Trent Hunter, Andy Sutton, Andy Hilbert, my other brother Andy) or impact injuries to joints (Brendan Witt, Radek Martinek, Frans Nielsen) ... obviously I can't list everyone or I'd literally list the entire roster.

About mid-season, Islesblogger Mike also went into this, explaining how those impact injuries tell him the Islanders' scourge is not due to ice conditions.

Still, the matter of reducing groin and hip injuries is a lingering issue that is, as Logan noted back in May, amplified by the demanding style and training camp Scott Gordon had implemented. An essential skater like Doug Weight missed time from a groin injury last year, while Josh Bailey's injury -- later learned to be a hip flexor -- happened during the stop-and-start-heavy training camp and caused him to miss time well into the second month of the season.

One thing about groin and hip injuries: It's an issue throughout the league, which brings out any number of theories, from the perennial issue of ice conditions in multi-use arenas to, wouldn't you know, modern skates (a theory vehemently disputed by OfficialsOutlook Doug in this FanPost).

Unfortunately, this is one of those things that can have so many contributors, it's nearly impossible to assess all the variables in a reliable way. You could imagine a controlled medical study, sure -- but you'd end up dealing with so many changing variables which a team chasing wins can't guarantee and a player living his life won't keep (players get traded, players eat poorly after a long night of NHL10, coaches change, flights get delayed, players neglect one area while rehabbing another injury, coaches double-shift, players encounter snowblowers, etc.).

As every reasonable doctor knows and every patient's family member would be wise to remember, medicine -- despite its advances -- is still an inexact science. Bodies decline and die. Sometimes without even lifting the Cup, sadly.

Still, a club can make adjustments and practice preventative care. One expression of that was supposed to be changes to the offseason conditioning -- remember that Gordon wasn't hired last summer until offseason conditioning was nearly finished. Another expression of prevention was supposed to be adjustments to Gordon's training camp.

Will it work? We'll never know for sure, but if the Islanders avoid being near the top in man-games lost to injury, we'll at least rest assured that it didn't hurt.

Of course, you know what might complicates matters? Spending most of training camp hopping around Western Canada, Kansas City, and then finally back East, forcing Gordon to modify the camp plan further. Oh, the price of generating some cash.

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does anyone know if they go thru any type of yoga with their calistenics (sp) program? it would seem to me that improving your ability to stretch would help decrease strain injuries, especially groin/hip ones.

by nullzero00 on Sep 14, 2009 5:39 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Don’t know, but at the team practice this morning here in Terrace, their stretching session looked almost like a group prayer meeting. Andy Sutton was in the middle of the circle at center ice.

by BCISLEMAN on Sep 14, 2009 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

What came first? Chicken or the Egg?

Does losing cause a player to be less likely to rush back or less likely to play a game with a minor aggravation?

Or do the Injuries lead to a decent team having a horrible year?

Or do the injuries show an all around bad organization, failure on the rink, failure off the rink and failures on the staff?

I always think of Pilon and how he never managed to play a full season except for 97-98 he got close with 76 games. The Isles finally give up on him in December 99 and the Rangers claim him. He then manages to play 45 games for the Rangers in 99-00 and 69 in 00-01 with the Rangers.

by WebBard on Sep 15, 2009 12:17 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

And then only 8 games with the Blues! Pilon’s career-finishing injury came in a game against … the Rangers. I was at the game. I couldn’t believe it. It was like I was returning to bizarro world. However, Messier was back, and he looked like a shell out there, so that was at least nice.

To the questions, though: I think the answer is a blurry, ambiguous mix of all of the above. But the number of broken bones and tears makes me think no one was taking any extra time mending. (Though sounds like Sutton could have come back if they would’ve let him in the final week or so.)

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by Dominik on Sep 15, 2009 2:05 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Don’t know, but at the time neither team was very good.

by BCISLEMAN on Sep 15, 2009 2:35 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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