LHinks: Where the Lighthouse Project stands
by Dominik on Aug 5, 2009 2:35 PM EDT
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As a follow-up to yesterday's collection of live coverage and Tweets, here is a bounty of links on yesterday's Lighthouse project rally and environmental impact hearings.
Procedurally, yesterday's hearing was about concerns or changes to the environmental impact of the project. Realistically, it was supporters and opponents' best chance yet to be heard on the proposal's merits, to show the Town of Hempstead how they feel. It's telling -- and positive for Islanders fans -- that support was large and well-reasoned. But there is so much left to do ...
Der Papers:
- Garth Snow says the project will help attract the free agents the current Coliseum does not. [Newsday]
- Jeff Z. Klein covered the Bettman and Wang deadline angles. [The New York Times]
- Mark Herrmann does Bettman, too. [Newsday]
- Herrmann again, on the Isles fans showing up in force. (One day, fans of other teams will realize a lot of Islanders fans have stuck around through a lot worse than they can ever imagine.) [Newsday]
- At long last, things are looking up for the Islanders [NY Post]
Der Blogs:
- Neutral league observer James Mirtle was impressed by the turnout for a team 16 seasons from its last playoff series win. [From the Rink]
- Nick says it's potentially a new beginning, but notes the reality of where we are now: "There was no final green-light to the Lighthouse Project yesterday, just another checkpoint to gauge citizens' response to the proposal as it currently stands. After the public comment period ends on August 17, both sides will examine the comments and decide how best to move forward." [Let There be Light(house)]
- Islesblogger with photos from the rally and public meeting, and a thank you to Charles Wang.
- Repeat from yesterday's LHinks: What Chris Botta said at the hearing as a resident.
- Dee's rendition of the day, from early rise to hopeful conclusion. [7th Woman]
- This was in yesterday's LHinks, but Doug updated his liveblog through the morning. [Isles Official's Outlook]
- A collection of videos from yesterday's events at Roger's Islanders Esoteric.
- Finally, light at the end of the tunnel [IslesNet]
Official Sites:
- Islanders.nhl.com on the hearing turnout, and the rally beforehand.
- Thoughts and thank you from Katrina of the Lighthouse Development Group
Finally, a reminder: This phase isn't over. The public comment period lasts until Aug. 17. You can send yours to the Town of Hempstead here: lighthousecomment@tohmail.org
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I have looked, but not as hard as I probably should, were there any downsides to the environment brought out yesterday? Have any been brought up before?
SHOOOOOOOT IT!!!! Anon
From the sounds of it, just some concerns or hopes that the project is keeping energy efficiency and green building standards, etc. in mind. Questions about water and sewage and stuff, too, but it sounded like those were from people who (like myself) haven’t actually dug into the thousand-page report.
So in other words: not really. Some people are worried about traffic (which is an issue with or without this project); or about one tall building begetting a hundred and somehow turning it into NYC East.
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Have they tried watching Discovery channel lately? New Poly-film based semi-transparent solar cells, or they could do the same as Berkley and put a 5 acre field on the roof. The roof weighs something like 60 tons, but it is cool as hell.
SHOOOOOOOT IT!!!! Anon
by burpchelischili on Aug 6, 2009 4:57 AM EDT up reply actions
Me thinks the tall building gets ditched
Long Island doesn’t have any bed rock. It’s just sediment left over from two massive glaciers that met their ends at each fork.
Have no idea how they pland to anchor such a thing.
Long Island doesn’t sit on a major fault line but ther is a fault there that is long past due to pop and send of an earthquake. It’s runs all the way from Maine all the way down to the coast of FL I believe.
Huh, I haven’t looked into those plans — but isn’t there bedrock in some areas under the sediment? (I guess all that matters is what’s underneath the Coliseum land.) Regardless, you do have to wonder about the tall building — as if it’s a built-in bargaining chip for negotiations, to be “conceded” at the right moment.
The fault line, though: How much can you alter your plans around fault lines whose imminent quakes are anywhere from tomorrow to 1,000 years from now? I’d say build in anticipation of one happening, but don’t avoid building just because it might.
Lighthouse Hockey: Side effects may include Weight gain and frequent game loss.
No worries, the most active, (hence the most dangerous to the uninformed), as well as the largest fault line, is not too far from my house. Southern Illinois, and I had two windows cracked last year by an earthquake. A meteor may hit my town tomorrow, but I’m still going home each night, and I sleep well.
Have no idea how they pland to anchor such a thing.
Uh, maybe they could put in a foundation? The St. Louis Arch is 670 feet tall, and the foundation is 670 ft deep. At least according to the plaque we read last weekend.
As a shameless plug, St. Louis has a 6 story kids museum complete with a 5 story slide! 12 bucks to get in, and my kid had a BLAST! She also got to pet a shark, a sting ray, and helped feed the sharks. I am a Hero to her now, hence the shameless plug for them.
SHOOOOOOOT IT!!!! Anon
by burpchelischili on Aug 6, 2009 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions
The arch is St Louis is also anchored on both ends.
You’re actually comparing the construction of a 40 story tower on sediment to the St Louis Arch.
Are you serious?
I had read recently that when they built some of the towers in Chicago they managed to get around using bedrock. On Long Island it’s a little different. There is Bed rock but the further West you go from Manatten the deeper it is. It’s engineering problem that I’m interested to see how they get around it.
Long Island doesn’t get hit with a lot of Earth quakes and when it does they are small magnitude. Problem is given the geology is that it wouldn’t take as large a magnitude to knock down a tower on Long Island than it would in the mid west or even California. Long is mostly sediment piled up in the Ocean from Glaciers.
The arch is St Louis is also anchored on both ends.
So, your saying that they only dug down and anchored it where it touched the ground? Cool idea. I wonder if that was on purpose?
SHOOOOOOOT IT!!!! Anon
by burpchelischili on Aug 6, 2009 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions
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