Grading the Islanders: Trent Hunter
We're at the point in the summer -- and hallelujah for this -- where next season is closer than the end of last season. Why, I even have opening night tickets vs. the Penguins, baby! But before we get into training camp and preseason digestion mode, I do want to finish the report cards for last season's important Islanders. (We'll have other content, too, but expect more of these report cards in the next week or two.)
Today: Trent Hunter, the understated team leader, the scoring winger with size but not speed, the guy who scores big goals yet often leaves me dreaming of more ...
If you're on this site's home page, the poll/report card appears next, but click past the jump (after the poll) to see the pupil's body of work (and poem, of course).
Random Fact: It's often -- rightly -- remarked that the Islanders never fully made Mike Mottau pay for his cheap head shot that interrupted Frans Nielsen's season just as it was taking off. But I wonder, in the midst of our blood lust, does anyone remember that Hunter jumped right in and fought Mottau before you could scream, "What was that?!" It's true:
I'm not saying the Isles are a squad of tough guys and UFC-level goons. I'm saying that if guys like Hunter, Witt and Sutton help take care of everyone, we don't have to mourn the lack of someone with a storied card on hockeyfights.com.
"This is our concern, Dude" Fact: I occasionally retell how Hunter's AHL career and full-time arrival as a rookie had me creating what became a 50-goal scorer in EA's NHL game. Perhaps, four seasons and five years later, I can finally agree I overrated him just a tad. Tough to argue his peak is anything above the 25 goals of his rookie year.
The Story: Like every single full-time Islander, Trent Hunter's 2008-09 was abridged by injury. As if the Madison Square Garden penalty box door weren't already out to get him, there was a hand injury in January, a hip injury in February and finally, an awkward fall and broken ankle that kept him out of the last 17 games of the schedule. Just par for the course with the 2008-09 New York Islanders.
Before that, though, Hunter was delivering the production we've become accustomed to from Hunter during his 5 full seasons: lots of hits, a handful of PP goals, and about one point every two games. The difference last season was that his goals and assists were about even, which means with a full season he just might have gotten back to that fabled 25-goal area that enticed us so much during his rookie year.
The Good: Despite a lack of speed that perhaps keeps him from becoming a top-tier "power forward," Hunter's hockey intelligence and positioning make him a good fit for Scott Gordon's system. Could that mean better things for him next year?
The Bad: Well, I mean he doesn't appear to be what I (at least) hoped after his rookie season. But the injuries last year really hijacked what might have been a strong season.
The Poem:
For $2 million per annuum I'll take it
A power forward who don't fake it
Captain material
By units imperial?
If the rink were a furlong he'd still skate it
The Grade: This is an open classroom with wildly subjective criteria for your own report card. But I'm most interested in where you think Hunter's season was headed before the winter injury bug hit. Personally, I thought it was going to easily be his best year since his rookie year, but I don't want you to take my word for it.
So grade his season -- or the healthy part of it, at least -- based on your preseason expectations, with 5 being far exceeding, 1 being far below, and 3 being right on the money. Bonus question: How would you feel about Hunter wearing a captain's letter -- and which one?
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Mr. Tavares. meet your new linemate
Hunts has long been an enigma. He tantalized with his first year performance but just has never risen to the level Islander fans have hoped he would. The last line of his THN profile says it all: “Has the potential to be more dominant on the ice.”
What could lift his game to that hoped for dominance? How do we get ol’ Hunts to shift into the next gear? My answer would be to place John Tavares right next to him on the second line. Tavares’ style of play is akin to Espo, the great Phil Esposito. Like Espo, JT is deadliest from the Slot. And like Espo, he needs big, tough physical wingers who can and will go into the corners to dig out the puck for him and create screens in front of the goalie. Hunts would be a perfect fit for JT’s linemate.
The next question is: Who should play left wing on that line? One possible answer could be Jesse Joensuu. Jesse is certainly big and physical enough and I suspect that Coach Gordon will give him a shot. I do not, however, think that he is the likeliest candidate.
Shortly after free agency began, Garth signed several players who slipped in under the radar, little noted in all the clamoring for Tanguay and others. One among them deserves special notice. Matt Moulson. Because of the wealth of talent on the Kings’ roster, he never really got the shot he deserved with them. Read what Hockey’s Future says about him:
“Talent Analysis
He’s a tremendously skilled player with hockey smarts to boot. Moulson’s also an excellent skater with very good speed. He’s blessed with great hands, and his passing ability is outstanding. He uses his 6’1/205 frame quite well. He’s strong and tough to move off of the puck.
In addition to his well-publicized offensive skills, Moulson is also a solid defensive player. He was utilized in Cornell’s penalty-killing situations and has done very well in breaking up plays, particularly in odd-man rush situations."
Espo wound up in the Hall of Fame in no small part due to the abilities of linemates Ken Hodge and Wayne Cashman to get him the puck and run interference for him. Hunts and Moulson could do the same for JT. One of Canada’s favorite beers is Molson Golden. Moulson-Tavares-Hunter (all three Canadians) might prove to be the Islanders’ Golden Line.
by BCISLEMAN on Aug 18, 2009 10:13 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
There is a reason he's been here from the outset
I could deal with Trent being here for his career, if he was consistently a second or third line guy. Is that setting my sights a little low? perhaps, but he’s been here from the start of his career and he’s a good player. By player I mean he might not be a sniper, and he might not deke great, or be our best fighter, but he can do a little of everything. If the isles had a reasonable team last season you’d have to wonder in 82 games if he could have hit around 55-60 points? (He was on pace for around 46 or so). Obviously I’m being a bit of a homer here but I also feel that Hunter is still fairly young (around 29 or 30) but he also exhibits some veteran leadership along with Weight that this very young team needs. More to the point, we have the money locked up in a guy that plays with a big heart on the ice, and can lead this team, why blow it on someone like Satan again? All things considered I’d say he was on his way to a 4 last year.
by albeezle on Aug 18, 2009 11:18 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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I don’t think you’re being a homer at all. At that salary and term, for the varied package he brings, I think Hunter is a terrific value. (But I’m obviously a big Hunter fan myself.) He’s also quite defensively responsible by most metrics.
At one point I was picturing him as possibly the next captain last winter, though maybe Streit has become ideal for that role.
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by Dominik on Aug 18, 2009 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was once asked to name the three best Milbury trades, and he was #2. The player we traded to the ducks for him only played 38 games in the NHL before heading back to Europe.
He’s good, but needs some talent around him. He dropped off at the same time the Isles started to fade. I like the idea of teaming him with Tavares.
by WebBard on Aug 18, 2009 12:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I was once asked to name the three best Milbury trades, and he was #2.
Ha! That’s about right.
Somewhere, there must be a list of the best (worst) Milbury trades he didn’t make because someone barred the door or time ran out.
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by Dominik on Aug 18, 2009 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It would be interesting if there was someone in the organization towards the end that put the kibash on some really bad Milbury trades. Considering Wang said that he fired Milbury there had to be someone in his ear explaining that Milbury was totally incompotent.
BTW my #1Milbury trade was the Jason Blake trade, #3 Mike Peca, the one time he traded prospects for a vet and the prospects didn’t pan out.
by WebBard on Aug 18, 2009 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’ve come to grips that Hunter won’t be the 60 pt. power forward I envisioned him becoming after his rookie campaign, but I’m more than pleased with what he already brings to the table; his versatility is an asset, and [by all accounts] he’s a great guy to have in the locker room. I could do without the streakiness, but even when he’s not producing points consistently, he’s still effective in other areas of the ice. As long as he’s giving the team 20 goals, 45-50 pts., 200+ hits, and playing in all situations, I’ll be happy. I was expecting that coming into this year, so I’d probably give him a “3,” bordering on “4.” I don’t see him wearing the “C” – after reading Guerin’s comments on Streit [post-trade] and watching Streit handle his national duties with Switzerland, I’m all for throwing the “C” on his jersey instead.
As for teaming Hunter with Tavares… he’d be a nice complement, for sure. I was thinking about a potential Bergenheim – Weight – Tavares combination, myself. Bergenheim gives that line a fast, energetic, sometimes-agitating winger who can crash the net – Tavares has had a lot of success playing alongside these types of players in juniors [see: Clutterbuck, Cal in Oshawa]. Weight is a savvy, veteran playmaker – just seems like a great mentor. Tavares on wing limits some of his defensive responsibilities [as opposed to being at center] and might ease his transition into the pros a bit.
by pickups on Aug 18, 2009 12:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
And a second welcome
… And thanks for joining!
I haven’t thought too much about line combos yet (just sort of waiting for training camp, I guess), but I like your theory behind Bergenheim-Weight-Tavares. Man, I think Bergenheim could rack up some points that way.
after reading Guerin’s comments on Streit [post-trade] and watching Streit handle his national duties with Switzerland, I’m all for throwing the "C" on his jersey instead.
Yeah, Streit absolutely sounds like a guy who is driven to lead this team and make the most of his career. Sometimes I picture Garth Snow sitting back in his chair, feet up on the desk, cigar in mouth, saying, “Doesn’t matter what they say. I brought them Mark freaking Streit.”
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by Dominik on Aug 18, 2009 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cutting the grading off at his injury, in my semi homer opinion, makes him a 4. I would not complain if Hunter was given the “C” this year, as long as he maintains what he gave last year. The only reason I wouldn’t want to give it to Streit, is because he is new to the team. I just do not like bringing in a new player and handing him the C, even if he is a veteran play-maker.
SHOOOOOOOT IT!!!! Anon
by burpchelischili on Aug 18, 2009 1:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The only reason I wouldn’t want to give it to Streit, is because he is new to the team. I just do not like bringing in a new player and handing him the C, even if he is a veteran play-maker.
I was thinking that way early last season, but it sounds like he really took the reins, and a lot of reports suggest behind closed doors the calm-and-sweet Swiss demeanor is replaced by a hungry producer who left his neutrality at the door (sorry, bad Swiss joke; guess it’s better than a watch or pocket-knife quip though?).
Can’t go wrong with your best player who is committed long-term to the franchise.
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by Dominik on Aug 18, 2009 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
(sorry, bad Swiss joke; guess it’s better than a watch or pocket-knife quip though?).
Well, at least you decided not to go with “Watch what that Swiss will unfold”
Can’t go wrong with your best player who is committed long-term to the franchise.
I only have the one reason not to give it to Streit, but I wouldn’t complain about either him or Hunter getting the C.
SHOOOOOOOT IT!!!! Anon
by burpchelischili on Aug 18, 2009 1:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
And I miss the Reply again!
SHOOOOOOOT IT!!!! Anon
by burpchelischili on Aug 18, 2009 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Go to da box, feel shame, 2 minutes you go free.
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by Dominik on Aug 18, 2009 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wait One Cotton-Pickin Minute!
…….that’s my job!
LOL B)
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by IslesOfficial on Aug 18, 2009 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gotta love the Slapshot reference though.
Mike and I will have to introduce you to Steve Carlson when you’re here. It’ll be nice to catch a game with ya.
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by IslesOfficial on Aug 18, 2009 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know, I can’t wait.
I hope Mr. Carlson leaves the foil at home, though.
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by Dominik on Aug 18, 2009 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Okay, I’m out of the box, and I am VERY annoyed. I get madder than Avery at the end of a relationship when people vote 1 and don’t leave a comment to explain it. Even if they are a Ranger fan who is Trolling, they should own up to it! If you are going to Troll, be a proud Troll.
SHOOOOOOOT IT!!!! Anon
by burpchelischili on Aug 19, 2009 6:35 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Haha, good point. I think one requested feature for the SBN tech guys is to do “members-only” polls — though I’m not sure I’d restrict it (yet) … the anarchical and unscientific nature appeals to me.
I’ll give the “1” vote rationale a shot, though: “boooo, Huntr sukz, go rangers!!!!1”
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by Dominik on Aug 19, 2009 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nice, you even made sure to put the 1 on the end.
SHOOOOOOOT IT!!!! Anon
by burpchelischili on Aug 19, 2009 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What about letting you click on the result to see all the names that voted for it? ’Cause truth to tell, I would have thought that whoever voted 5 would have left a note too.
SHOOOOOOOT IT!!!! Anon
by burpchelischili on Aug 19, 2009 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe Trent was running a little late and didn’t have time to explain his reasoning.
by pickups on Aug 19, 2009 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
This is hilarious and rec’d. (Wish I could rec it twice)
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by Dominik on Aug 20, 2009 2:51 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
wonderful answer.
SHOOOOOOOT IT!!!! Anon
by burpchelischili on Aug 20, 2009 4:48 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

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