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Say It Ain't So, Garth!

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Do NOT bring back the Great Satan!

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I noted with particular horror a Newsday story suggesting that Miroslav Satan's agent was in negotiations with the Islanders. I am HOPING that this is simply a matter of said agent making inquiries and trying to create some buzz for his client. I HOPE that Garth and Ryan are NOT seriously considering such a move.

Now this is not because I dislike Miro. He was an OK Islander. This is just not the direction this franchise needs to go in now. I felt that way when all the buzz started about Tanguay and I feel even more strongly about it with Miro. We do not need older, flawed veterans--especially not at the forward position.

Apart from Doug Weight, Richard Park, and Jeff Tambellini (who has to prove he belongs in the NHL this season), virtually every forward on our roster has what we like to call "upside". That is to say, the player is likely to get better. Even Hunts has a whole other level that we only glimpsed in his inaugural season. And then there are the newcomers led, of course, by John Tavares. Free agent Matt Moulson and prospects Jesse Joensuu, Robin Figren, Justin DiBenedetto and Trevor Smith are just a few of the players who deserve a shot this year. Tavares will get his ice time regardless, but if Miro, or any veteran forward for that matter, is signed, it will only serve to reduce any chance that such players will be given a fair shot.

Defense is a different story. We really only have one player, Jack Hillen, currently on the roster who can be said to have any "upside." Apart from Mark Streit, all of the others are either over the hill or are exceedingly average at best. Radek Martinek and Bruno Gervais are especially injury prone. Moreover, the "over 30" club includes Andy Sutton (34) whose contract expires at the end of this season and Martinek (32) and Brendan Witt (34) who become free agents after next season. To complete the picture, our defensive prospects are all (to my knowledge) at least a year away if not more.

The point is that any forward brought in now will take away ice time from our developing players. The same cannot be said about defensemen. To begin with, we are one short of the standard allotment of eight defenders with Poch not being re-signed. Also most of our lost mangames due to injury have been among our defensemen. We should, if anything, be carrying one or two extra NHL-ready defenders.

Garth has said that he is reluctant to bring in veterans who will take away ice time from developing players. This is exactly the right attitude at this stage in the development of the franchise. Any players we do bring in should be between 25 to 30 years old and should, hopefully, have about ten years or so left in their careers. Even at that, we should not be looking to bring in forwards until the trade deadline at the earliest. We may expend our #1 pick on a player like Taylor Hall, Kirill Kabanov, or Teemu Pulkinnen. Also, there are about a half dozen forwards likely to be free agents next summer who will be worthy of consideration. Finally, Garth has stated that he intends to use the Isles' enormous cap space to produce advantageous trades next summer as other teams deal with a lower cap limit and their already tightly stretched cap totals.

The only players we should consider signing now are defensemen. I would start with Martin Skoula. At 29, he is a little older than I would like. In his favor, however, he has size (6'3", 226), talent, some offensive upside, and in ten years in the NHL, he has never missed more than four games in any season. That would bring us to the obligatory eight, but we should not stop there. We should also offer Carolina one of our two third round picks for RFA Anton Babchuk. He is 25, has size (6'5", 212), had 35 points and was a +13 last year. Those are numbers worthy of comparison with Mark Streit.

Adding an extra defenseman would enable Garth and Ryan to move Sutton at the deadline for either a draft pick or a younger defenseman. it would also make Gervais expendable. I suspect that Chicago is going to try to move forward Patrick Sharp at the deadline to dump salary. They will certainly be attracted by Biron's low salary and his short contract. They will also find Gervais' incredibly low ($500K) salary very appealing. And since Weight will almost certainly be moved for a pick at the deadline, trading for Sharp will not reduce the chances of any of our developing forwards for ice time.

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Sorry Miro, but I had to vote no. Anytime I see the name Satan, I immediately think of the detroit red wings. I just don’t need that thought running through my head EVERY game.

SHOOOOOOOT IT!!!! Anon

by burpchelischili on Aug 13, 2009 10:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Intresting question, what if he signs a two way deal? If he doesn’t do well or work well with others in the NHL and the Isles have the option to send him down for cheap it might not be that bad.

by WebBard on Aug 14, 2009 11:23 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I could see that, though I really doubt he or his agent would be up for a two-way and the potential for more life on the bus.

For me it’s not so much the money, it’s just that I don’t see him being very productive, so I don’t want him to block the kids and/or be down when he’s not getting the ice time he needs to produce. I’d be thrilled if he proved me wrong, though.

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by Dominik on Aug 14, 2009 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Babchuk's an interesting one

His season may have been a slight fluke or peak, and it makes me wonder why the Canes are intent on moving him. But he’s worth looking into at that age, and considering the Islanders can negotiate with him outright (as an RFA) or via trade with Rutherford.

Couldn’t agree with you more on the reasons not to sign Satan. If we’re rebuilding, let’s rebuild. We have veterans for locker room leadership and babysitting, we don’t need a Satan or Mark Parrish (much as I liked both) who will only underperform our hopes and their own past performances. I want to see the PP minutes go to Streit, Weight and the kids.

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by Dominik on Aug 14, 2009 11:23 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

P.S. on Satan

Oh, and I think the hunch is right that it’s more Satan and his agent talking rather than the Islanders “pursuing.” Satan, like so many in his situation, doesn’t have a lot of leverage right now. He’ll need to take what he can get unless he’s open to playing overseas.

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by Dominik on Aug 14, 2009 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Aaron Ward and Dennis Seidenberg

Read somewhere that the Canes would prefer to sign veterans for defense rather than develop prospects like Babchuk. In any event, his fate was probably sealed when they traded for Aaron Ward. Canes have about $6 mil in cap space and seven defensemen under contract. One of them is NOT named Seidenberg and therein endeth the lesson.

by BCISLEMAN on Aug 14, 2009 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Tambellini is a waste of space. Rather have Miro then him any day. Other then that can’t see a reason to sign him.

by neologizer on Aug 14, 2009 6:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Tambellini has been a bust to this point, no argument. He has an excellent skill set and has performed well at Bridgeport, but he has to produce at the NHL level this year or he is likely gone.

by BCISLEMAN on Aug 14, 2009 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

If I could come back, and do it all over again. I'd ask God to make me a Pittsburgh Steeler - Jack Lambert

by lambert41 on Aug 17, 2009 4:00 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Come on now, don’t beat around the bush — let us know where you stand!

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by Dominik on Aug 17, 2009 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

what about

What about Taylor Pyatt or Dominic Moore? Could be a good sign and not to expensive especially Moore. Both men are capable of 40- 50 points

Got some work to do before being a playoff team let alone a contender again!

by thenewhockeytown on Aug 18, 2009 10:46 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I like Pyatt. Moore is good too as is Manny Malhotra. I still do not think that it would be wise for the Isles to sign a veteran forward when they have so many forward prospects who need a shot. If they are going to sign any more veterans, it should be on defense. Babchuk and Skoula are two good possibilities who would not cost much.

by BCISLEMAN on Aug 18, 2009 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’m kind of in the boat of worrying about having too many checking line forwards.

I like Pyatt; Moore was really unimpressive once he left the scoring line he was on in Toronto. Malhotra has really found his niche. If Tamby were gone and they picked up Malhotra to replace Hilbert, I’d be pleased.

But it seems Snow/Wang is resigned to spending no more and just evaluating the young corps this year.

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by Dominik on Aug 18, 2009 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

As to forwards, that is wise. As to defense, not so much.

by BCISLEMAN on Aug 18, 2009 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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