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What Could Have Been: Colorado Avalanche deal ex-Islander Ryan Smyth to Los Angeles

Well how about that. The Colorado Avalanche just dealt Ryan Smyth to the Los Angeles Kings for defensemen Kyle Quincey and Tom Preissing, plus a fifth-round pick. That the Avs have given up on the still-effective Ryan Smyth now, after the club bottomed out this past season, underlines just how lucky the Islanders are that Smyth chased greener, higher altitude pastures in the summer of 2007. The Islanders inadvertently faced reality as a result, and they're better for it now.

I'll admit it: I was one of the ones hoping against hope that Smyth had fallen in love with Long Island, that the guy who wore his heart on his sleeve and his tears close to the mullet would sign up to revive one Orange and Blue ex-dynasty after being dumped over a few hundred grand by the other. I was an accomplice in continuing to slap the credit card down, privately knowing it wouldn't fix things and the interest-heavy bill would come later.

But once Smyth said thanks but no thanks, a light bulb turned on -- no, it was practically an intervention -- for me and apparently (eventually) for GM Garth Snow, too. The Islanders had been just squeaking by for too long. True, Snow replaced that loss with some stop-gap free agent signings for Ted Nolan, but it was clear eigth-seed playoff appearances and first-round exits were just not real progress -- and they certainly weren't doing the job of filling Nassau Coliseum. It felt like the guy in the movie who had been telling one lie after another to cover up previous mistakes: Finally had to own up, 100 percent, to the reality that was being swept under the rug all along.

Star-divide

Now, Charles Wang -- initially with Mike Milbury, and later with Garth Snow -- had reason to avoid an all-out rebuild and try to push the Islanders forward with some short-term, ultimately regrettable moves. The building was one issue, attendance (though intertwined) was another. With a fanbase scarred by the buffoon/fraudulent owners and "fishy" moves of the late '90s, the Islanders new ownership in the new millenium had cause to make a splash to try to win fans back and convince everyone he and the Islanders are legit. (You could say the same thing about Snow "making a splash" for fans and peers with the Smyth deal, in his first year as backup goalie-turned-GM.)

This is why, as wrong as it was at the time (though not nearly as awful as the 10-year deal that followed), part of me understood the Alexei Yashin trade: The Isles couldn't draw marquee names (sound familiar?); that trade was a way of getting around it and producing some good hockey now. I didn't like it, but I understood the motivation behind it, and I did my part to enjoy the (brief) rewards while trying to forget about the bill coming due. It's worth remembering that this and the Michael Peca move produced the Islanders' most exciting season of the decade.

Now years later, "the building" in the form of the Lighthouse Project is at a critical yet positive juncture, and the team has indeed committed to a rebuild, in part thanks to Snow being able to outline a plan for Wang. By and large, more fans than those who showed up earlier in the decade are showing up now -- and with at least some level of buy-in to the rebuild. After Year 1, in addition to the development of Kyle Okposo and Josh Bailey (and the revelation of Frans Nielsen), the rebuild has its first prize in John Tavares.

If Smyth signs that deal in 2007, I'm not sure we're here now. We're probably still treading water in the middle of the conference pack, living on the playoff bubble without ever getting over the hump. Maybe we're "lucky" and crash the way Colorado did this year, still picking up a gem like Matt Duchene yet dumping Smyth for some marginal assets. Maybe not.

For me, and for many others, the loss of Smyth made it easier to accept and rally around the reality that starting over, cold turkey, had the better chance of ensuring long-term success. Put it this way: I'm glad I didn't watch Smyth in an Islanders uniform the last two years, using his presence to tell myself the Islanders were something they're not. By the time Smyth's contract expires, the Islanders will be better for it.

What were you thinking when Smyth fled? Are you glad he left, or do you think the Isles could be in a better place now?

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Wow, the Kings are looking like they might be scary next season.

Also in former Islander news, Jason Krog signed signed with the Thrashers. Personally I thought he had retired. Interestingly enough in 06-07 he managed 80 points in 44 AHL games, 07-08 112 Points in 80 AHL games and 08-09 86 points in 74 AHL games. Career wise he’s only 59 points in 202 NHL games.

by Mark D on Jul 4, 2009 7:43 AM EDT reply actions  

They’re certainly trying to make their jump. I read scuttlebutt they were fishing around Biron, too.

Krog: Huh. I think I knew he was playing because I’d see his name pop up in the AHL, but I never thought he’d be back in the NHL. Another one, Aucoin signed with Phoenix for $2.5 million.

Lighthouse Hockey: Side effects may include Weight gain and frequent game loss.

by Dominik on Jul 4, 2009 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Aucoin was for 2.25 million

by HugoAgogo on Jul 4, 2009 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ah, thanks! Sorry about the error, folks.

Lighthouse Hockey: Side effects may include Weight gain and frequent game loss.

by Dominik on Jul 5, 2009 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

(I love that the headline stating how much Aucoin signed for is staring me in the face on the right sidebar. I’ll chalk it up to holiday laziness.)

Lighthouse Hockey: Side effects may include Weight gain and frequent game loss.

by Dominik on Jul 5, 2009 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah...

Just figured I would point out the obvious – and holiday laziness is good

by HugoAgogo on Jul 5, 2009 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Smyth and the road not taken

Personally I was crushed when Smyth decided to sign with the Avs. At the time I believed that Smyth would show the NHL (and especially Canada because Canadians were [are?] obsessed with Smyth) that the Islanders are relevant. I hoped that Smyth choosing to stay with the Isles would lure other blue-chip free agents to the Island and I thought it would be a way better alternative that beginning another rebuild.

As far as where the Islanders would have been now and the success they might have experienced the past two years who can really know. I think watching the last 164 games (two seasons) might have been much more exciting than what we’ve been given. I don’t really have much of a choice, I’m on board with the re-build and looking forward to what this new crop of Isles can do.
However, I must admit that I am tired of watching prospects grow in the orange and blue only to find true success elsewhere in the NHL. I guess the question I’m asking is how many rebuilds can a franchise go through before the fans begin to give up?
You make a good point that perhaps Yashin and Peca time was just a band aid and that if Smyth stayed it would have just been another one…you also make a good point that the season where they faced the Leaf’s in the playoffs was a great time to be an Isles fan. It was probably the most fun I had rooting for the Isles since they took down Pitt in ’93. Hopefully where going in the right direction to experience times like those once again.

by mdelbags on Jul 4, 2009 8:38 AM EDT reply actions  

I don’t really have much of a choice, I’m on board with the re-build and looking forward to what this new crop of Isles can do.

Heh, so true, so true.


However, I must admit that I am tired of watching prospects grow in the orange and blue only to find true success elsewhere in the NHL. I guess the question I’m asking is how many rebuilds can a franchise go through before the fans begin to give up?

Me, too. I guess I’m hanging my whole faith in the rebuild on the hope that this time they won’t take that short cut and deal prospects away for short-term help. I mean, every contender faces that moment — when going from good to great requires dealing some blue chips for win-now vets — but the Islanders always did that in the past just to go from bad/average to making a little bit of noise. They weren’t always bad trades, actually; but for me it was too soon.

I hoped that Smyth choosing to stay with the Isles would lure other blue-chip free agents to the Island and I thought it would be a way better alternative that beginning another rebuild.

Ah, glad you mentioned that. I remember that feeling, too. Tough to say how it would have ended up. I guess I feel better now because I think they’re intent on a true rebuild that they see through. Of course the tough decisions are yet to come…

Lighthouse Hockey: Side effects may include Weight gain and frequent game loss.

by Dominik on Jul 4, 2009 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I possibly doubt the fact that with Smyth the Isles would have been a middling contender because of the number of man games lost to injury – where the Isles were near the top of the league.

This and because Smyth plays the sort of game where he gets injured a fair bit, it is possible that he would have simply been another casualty, or alternatively that he had no supporting cast (like this past year for the Avs).

But then there is no way of knowing…

by HugoAgogo on Jul 4, 2009 6:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Heh, true — much the same happened with Colorado this year. I was thinking last year (er, I mean 2007-08) in the first half when the Isles’ were in the playoff race until DiPietro went down. I assume they would have missed anyway, but maybe with Smyth under long-term contract they feel different about it and don’t press “restart”? Who knows…

Lighthouse Hockey: Side effects may include Weight gain and frequent game loss.

by Dominik on Jul 5, 2009 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Lost Weekend (that Lasted 15 Years)

Very good summary, Dominik. Plenty of us have been guilty of enabling the Isles over the last 1.5 decades.

(Great site, BTW. First post.)

by Kepler on Jul 5, 2009 12:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Hey thanks*. And welcome, glad you joined!

I suppose enabling is part of the fan description — the crux is knowing when to stage an intervention?

*Thanks for the laws of planetary motion, too ;)

Lighthouse Hockey: Side effects may include Weight gain and frequent game loss.

by Dominik on Jul 5, 2009 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Where was I?

I don’t recall exectly where I was when I hear the news Smyth was not signing here. I recall being royally dissapointed that July 1st. I was even hoping for Paul Kariya, Markov or Souray late into the midnight hour.

I even recall whiffing on Drury, Brierre and Gomez.

What a terrible July 1st that was.

Looking back with 20/20 hindsight it was all for the better. The Drury/Gomez signings were a complete failure for the Rangers. Ryan Smyth only wanted to play with Sakic and that failed as well. St Louis missed the post season again that season.

Jason Blake a complete dissapointment in Toronto.

We are much better off today despite what the standings tell you. Our system would have been an even bigger mess had we suceded with those signings. The year we got Smyth our system was so bad with defensemen we had to sign guys out of Germany just to fill holes.

That was embarassing.

This team is going to be sooooo much better.

by Chickendirt on Jul 5, 2009 4:07 PM EDT reply actions  

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