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LHinks: Matt Martin saga, Yan Danis's salary, fading Tanguay rumors

Today the NHL schedule is released, and I begin plotting what NHL road trips might coincide with good concerts and drop-ins on old friends/in-laws/people-who-owe-me-money. Then I realize I'll be out of vacation days by fall, and I get back to reality. Some links:

The curious case of Matt Martin, the 2008 5th-round pick and former Steven Stamkos linemate who needs a contract. [Newsday]

John at In Lou We Trust spots Yann Danis's Devils salary ($550,000) via TSN. Still unclear whether it's two-way or not; I'd venture not at that low salary. One of Bob Goodenow's greatest victories/salary-inflators was said to be his persuasion of the NHLPA to publish their salaries. But that doesn't mean teams are eager to get contract info out there.

Chris Botta with a great play-by-play from yesterday's mini-camp skate, including some thoughtful Scott Gordon quotes. Coolest part for me? Bryan Trottier tutoring the kids on faceoffs and having a ball.

If Logan says the roster is "99% complete," that confirms Alex Tanguay remains a mirage of a fantasy of a pipe dream ... right? Bloggers beg their sources to see if the Islanders ever had legit interest. Hard to imagine going past tire-kicking. Update: No indeed.

A close friend is a Minnesota native, so I love ribbing him as U. of Minnesota loses its best recruits to the NHL each year. Kyle Okposo was particularly fun. Aaron Ness will be, too -- although his official site spotlight shows he's enjoying college. Good for him. If you get the opportunity, the best college experience is hard to cut short -- even for the NHL.

The Hurricanes continued the flight from Montreal by signing Tom Kostopolous, creating a logjam at forward.

Finally, this is a few months old, but: Remember Ryan O'Marra? Yeah, his stock hasn't improved. I've always said the Ryan Smyth deal was a "defensible gamble" simply because the Islanders were able to part with prospects they weren't high on. (And this was back when 1st-rounders were part of every rental. Wait, they still are?). While I favor hoarding youngsters (such as now), once you sour on them, I'm all for getting what you can for them. (Plus, the Smyth deal may have inadvertently moved us toward reality.)

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O'Marra gets totally dissed

Wow that was a pretty rough article about O’Marra…I guess it wasn’t such a big loss when we shipped him over to Edmonton.

Who could we have gotten in that draft instead of O’Marra? Any big names taken after him in the draft?

by mdelbags on Jul 15, 2009 11:03 AM EDT reply actions  

2005

The Crosby/Bobby Ryan draft. It wasn’t a great first round after O’Marra was taken at 15. None of the guys around him from 13-16 have even played an NHL game.

But you’d certainly prefer:

  • the Czech Martin Hanzal (17) or Nashville’s D pick Ryan Parent (18)
  • TJ Oshie at 24 or Edmonton’s Andrew Cogliano at 25
  • and of course Paul Stastny in the 2nd round at 44

Ah, hindsight.

Lighthouse Hockey: Side effects may include Weight gain and frequent game loss.

by Dominik on Jul 15, 2009 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

JANKOWSKI(SP)

What yr was this guy hired he seems to have done a masterful job especially in the later rnds finding some real gems. the 06 and 08 drafts seem to be producing some real diamonds in the ruff ex. – the Martins, rakshanis, Dibi, ulstroms and figurens

by steelermafia on Jul 15, 2009 11:14 AM EDT reply actions  

Summer '06

He was named asst. GM/director of scouting in August 2006; after that he’d been the head Euro scout for three years.

I agree, he’s done well from what we can tell so far. It’s always a guessing game, but there is evidence of sound strategy and principles behind his approach, which should pay off.

Lighthouse Hockey: Side effects may include Weight gain and frequent game loss.

by Dominik on Jul 15, 2009 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

ENJOYING THIS SITE VERY MUCH

i used to surf the net going crazy looking for anything Islanders, now I just come here every morning and get my fill. Thanks again for all you work, I’m also a huge steeler fan, one thing if you notice Dominik the Islanders are turning into the steelers of hockey. It starts with the top with wang getting the right personnel for management and investing in scouting. When you start to draft character over skill you start to build a championship. That locker room is full of good characyter guys that have the competitve spirit to win.

by steelermafia on Jul 15, 2009 1:02 PM EDT reply actions  

Hey, thanks. “The Steelers of hockey” — whew, got a ways to go there, but I like the recipe. Alas, the Hurricanes already claimed Bill Cowher.

FYI for everyone: the Complaint Department is always open, too. You want more or less (or different) stuff? I’m certainly open to input. And if there is stuff I don’t touch (like fantasy hockey) or stuff you want to expand on, you can make a FanPost, which we can also promote to the center of the page when conditions warrant.

Lighthouse Hockey: Side effects may include Weight gain and frequent game loss.

by Dominik on Jul 15, 2009 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

I might do a fanpost or two

Still getting comfortable with the format of this place though.

I think a lot of folks are.

The Islanders blogosphere seems like an evershifting place.

by Chickendirt on Jul 15, 2009 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Islanders blogosphere seems like an evershifting place.

You got that right. Hard to keep up with.

I was drawn here by the SBN format, and I wanted to plant an islanders flag. I’ve got my preferences, but how it goes from here is in part up to everybody, as long as we keep it cool.

Lighthouse Hockey: Side effects may include Weight gain and frequent game loss.

by Dominik on Jul 15, 2009 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Tanguay stuff sounds like a bunch of bullshit started by Eklund

He recently started with the Chee Choo thing as well.

The guy is a raving douche.

The only reason I want Tanguay is to flip him later for picks and prospects. He’s not going to turn this team into a cup contender or even a playoff worthy team. So I don’t really care.

Anyways, it’s not like he fills a glaring need. The Isles already are loaded with smallish forwards. They need some size and some grit. That’s where Joensuu and Martin come in. Granted, not top line talent but enough on the second and third in terms of size (Joensuu) and grit (Martin). I’d rather go with the sizable guys and keep a slot open on the big club for them.

Tanguay might make it harder for them to play those two and see what they are made of. This team is in dire need of some size and I’d rather take the time to see where those two fit.

by Chickendirt on Jul 15, 2009 3:20 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

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Yeah, I’m much more of a “wake me up when there is real news” guy, myself. I try not to use any energy on him, but I do mourn that the concept of the hockey rumor has been destroyed. We can play fantasy GM, tossing ideas around at the bar, or we can hear about published reports from responsible reporters — both are great. In between is that messy middle area of posting every “tip” and conversation someone allegedly said. Which just gets hopes up and … drives traffic. That’s my piece on that, though I’d add with every rumor a player agent is also a likely suspect.

I did hear word of Cheechoo stuff, which sounds 10 times more unrealistic than Tanguay.

The only reason I want Tanguay is to flip him later for picks and prospects. He’s not going to turn this team into a cup contender or even a playoff worthy team. So I don’t really care.

To me that’s it, right there. He’d help scoring this year (and move us closer to the middle?) but doesn’t fit the long-term goal. So if he wants a long-term deal, his deadline trade value probably diminishes.

Lighthouse Hockey: Side effects may include Weight gain and frequent game loss.

by Dominik on Jul 15, 2009 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

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