NHL Free Agency: New York Islanders sign Dwayne Roloson, [update] miss Mike Komisarek
The "big" goalie 1A news fell flat among some of us: Dwayne Roloson, who turns 40 in October -- Garth Snow turns 40 in July -- gets a $5 million, two-year commitment. As far as whether that's a positive move, there's a healthy debate/airing of opinions in the morning post (which you can still add to). But the reality is a marriage of convenience for both sides.
Meanwhile, Mike Komisarek is reported to be in the sights of 10 teams -- yet is still considering the Islanders.
[Update: It's being reported that Komisarek went to the Leafs. Interesting move; can't wait to hear the term.]
That tells me either that he's wielding the threat of a hometown return as leverage, or that the Isles are offering him long-term while others might be scared by last season -- or that he really does like the idea of helping the Islanders rebound. (Or all of the above?) While I've been reluctant to go whole-hog for Komi, if a package really is only around $4 million, that would get me more into it. But that sounds like a stretch, considering the number of wooers. [If news breaks, feel free to update in comments or a FanShot ... otherwise, consider this the free agency thread for the evening.]
Back to the Roloson decision:
Picture yourself as a free agent goalie looking to get starter's minutes: The Islanders present an opportunity on last year's last place team to maybe get those minutes while DiPietro recuperates, and then shove off when he's healthy. Is that the gig for you? Remember that DiPietro is an untradeable contract. So this isn't like Colorado (where Craig Anderson signed to become #1); it isn't like Florida (where Scott Clemmensen signed, but Tomas Vokoun is the occasional subject of trade rumors); it isn't like Ty Conklin's signing in St. Louis, which dumped its starter last year and has starter Chris Mason heading to UFA this summer. There's not a very promising long-term goaltending opportunity on Long Island -- not yet.
Meanwhile, Roloson thinks he has two years left, and he just wants to get paid for it -- he wants that commitment. Competitive concerns aside, he jumped for the Islanders' offer. And though he's old (funny that Edmonton just signed his replacement, Nikolai Khabibulin, through age 40), and he's had some injuries, Roloson had a strong season last year on a weak team.
In fact, his play in the second half basically kept the Oilers' playoff dreams afloat, he was named team MVP, and he didn't slow down at the World Championships.
His age, of course, is a concern. It's silly to think he won't spend time on the shelf this season or next. But for who was available and what the Islanders were offering -- not in money, but in status -- this is a good fit.
The Size Question
Now, just about everyone is talking about the need for size, physicality, and protection for not only the Islanders' young guns but their feeble goalie crew, too. Have they addressed this? No. Does a fantacized Komisarek acquisition address this? Not quite. But if Tim Jackman, Brendan Witt, Andy Sutton, Joel Recklicz, and the former Hab (play along, now) are healthy, I have a feeling they'd step up. That said, another winger who likes to fight is probably in order, considering the moves by the Rangers (Donald Brashear), Flyers (Chris Pronger O'Elbows, Ian Laperriere -- who I forgot was free and really wish the Isles had signed) and even the Penguins (signing former Devil Mike Rupp).
That's where we are as of the end of the afternoon. Depending on news tonight, I'll have a deeper look at all the goalies (who were) on the market for tomorrow. Meanwhile, keep the discussion going here or there at your leisure -- or start your own thread as news warrants (but help each other out by dropping a link in comments). Unfortunately I'm "working" today, because this is the best non-game day of the year, in my book -- thanks for pulling up to the bar and joining in.
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I'm very concerned right now
Between Philly, Rags and Bruins that’s 16 games where these guys are gonna get run like crazy. I ahve concerns that we are gonna lead in man games lost to injury once again.
Right now, as far as the Rags are concerned, trading Gomez and replacing him with Brashear, McGratton and Higgins is pretty much mailing it in. Unless they have a plan for Gaborik in the mix but I still don’t think they have the cap space.
Looks like the Rags are gonna goon their way to the post season.
Wait, they didn’t bring McGrattan in, too, did they?!
I suppose before Gaborik, they’ll still be making a run at Heatley, who sounds like just a delightful character to put in a Rangers uniform.
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They have Brashear and McGratton
There’s a rumor going (Not from Eklund ie Dwayine) that they are targetting Neil as well.
If that’s the case the Rags officially just mailed it in for the season. They are gonna spend a lot of time in the box and Sather will be out of a job by the all star break. That guy has no vision at all.
He’s already wasted millions on the Gomez and Drury signings. That was screwed up from the beginning.
Montreal signed Camelleri
5 years 3o mill per TSN.
Yowza. You know, with Gomez passing (and Kovalev?), that might just work really well.
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Maybe
The lack of size on that team is gonna kill them.
I think the Bruins lost a few on the blue line so this could get interesting.
The sheer number of bodies being shuffled around really is interesting — particularly moving around within the East. It’s like they taken 50 names, shook ’em up in a hat, and let ’em fall on different teams.
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So why can’t Komisarek make up his damn mind and fall back home to the Islanders? This is killing me.
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by IslesOfficial on Jul 1, 2009 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Recall Markov from a few years ago?
I think he was asking too much and wound up in Europe? Even the Souray fiasco?
This is looking very simialar to those two. Komi had a bad year last year and was injured for a good chunk of it. His agent is asking way too much and I have feeling that if they don’t come down he’s gonna sit for the year or wind up overseas.
Put a dinner deadline on him!
I’m just feeling lucky he’s considering it. I was really doubtful.
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What's the max salary/term you'd give Komisarek?
Sketching out loud, I’d go up to $5 on a short term (3 years), but if he wants five or eight years, I just can’t see promising more than $4.25 per for that long to a guy who doesn’t provide offense and should have his share of injuries.
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We'll see what Toronto gave him
Snow looks to be asleep at the wheel right now.
He could have signed Komisarik and traded Sutton for a late pick in next years draft. I think Montreal would have taken that in a flash.
McKenzie: 5 years, $4.5 million. Damn. Damn near reasonable. I wouldn’t have wanted to bid more, though. If it was money, I’m glad Snow didn’t go crazy.
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Komisarik off the Market
Dreger reporting that the deal with Toronto is done per TSN.
5 years at 4.5 mill from Toronto
Snow could have gotten that done.
Terrible.
But could he?
Maybe Komi chose The Center of the Hockey Universe over The Home.
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With all the goons in the division now, would Travis Moen be a good signing? Tough, can put the puck in the net on occasion, willing to drop the gloves when needed. JT needs SOME protection. Put Moen with Okposo and Tavares.
I’d be up for that. We’re likely going to be hitting the scrap heap now…
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That’s a terribly sad notion, Dom.
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by IslesOfficial on Jul 1, 2009 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Heh, well you know. July 1 is fun, but we shouldn’t be featured guests at this party.
It’s still a rebuild. Like I said beforehand, I’m relaxed about this free agency period. Nothing is make or break. A nice long-term piece that makes sense? Great. But otherwise, we have a couple years and more player development to clear up what our needs will be in 2012.
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Agreed. The Islanders are going to be awful next season, but I’m actually looking forward to it for the first time in a while.
Sucking With Excitement!
Me, too. First really bad losing streak may jar me. Or the first why-god-why injury. But there’s a lot in play to make it fun. Last year was like being under heavy medication.
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With no Komisarik I wonder if Hamaonic gets an invite
That guy had a good year in Moose Jaw can put up points and hits like a truck.
I’ll take that and a signing of Pahlson and Neil.
Ship Sutton to montreal for picks as they really need some size.
This team should be set for next season.
Pahlson and Neil are still out there
If I’m Snow I grab those two and call it a day.
Not big signing and the both fit this teams needs perfectly.
I wonder if the 4.7 million cap hit in the 10-11 season from the Yashin buyout has anything to do with Garth’s appararent lack of movement. Drops back to 2.2 mil in 11-12.
Interesting. I hadn’t realized that. I suppose it could, but they still have so much room under the cap even with it.
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All of Tavers’s potential bonuses will count toward the cap, too.
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You have to wonder what Montreal is thinking. Hal Gill is beyond awful, although I’d take him over Sutton in a heartbeat.
I was stunned by that. Not even sure I’d take him over Sutton. (Sutton’s defensive stats, in his brief playing time last year, were actually decent — believe it or not.)
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Hmm, interesting. I’ve come to regard Sutton as possibly the worst modern-era defenseman I’ve ever seen. His saving grace is his propensity for injury in my book.
This could just be bias, however. I guess I don’t pay much attention to awful defensemen on other teams. But still: ever seen Sutton try to handle the puck? That guy has cinder blocks for hands.
Dreger reprting Steve Begin to Bruins
one year 850,000
Dreger reporting Pahlson to Blue Jackets
3 years 2.65 per.
There goes what would have been a very doable deal for Snow.
Snow is asleep at the switch today. I think he signed Roloson and decided to call it a day.
Gotta go out and get Neil. Beauchemin would be interesting to add as well.
Want to get fancy it could be Gaborik but I HIGHLY doubt it.
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by IslesOfficial on Jul 1, 2009 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Figure at this point you might as well go for the gold or er…something like that. If we’re gonna have over 500 man games lost than might as well have some talent for the trouble.
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by IslesOfficial on Jul 1, 2009 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Wonder how many season tickets
Snow just cost this team?
No one is gonna buy them if they don’tt think Tavares or Okposo have a shot to survive the year.
I expect better than this from Garth. He was player not long ago and should know what it’s like to enter a season as rookie with no protection.
Am I the only one who thinks that Neil sucks?
I don’t really think this team needs any goons, and if they do eventually, that’s the single easiest part to pick up from the AHL. I mean, Fritz slapped Brashear around last year for god’s sake.
Fritz can not skate and Gordon doesn't feel comforatble playing him
If it were that easy the isles would no have gone with Frtiz at all last season.
How comfortable are you going into this season knowing JT, Okpose and the gang have no protection? Especially with the hitmen the Rags and Philly signed today.
Pretty comfortable, actually. I mean, look, if the Islanders really need that protection for these guys, they can suck it up and drop a roster spot on Fritz or some other no-name AHL thug.
Brashear can hardly play and Neil is only somewhat better.
Interesting POV
I’d like to hear if your opinion changes once the season starts.
Snow never called Neil
per Logan.
This is bad.
I understanding not making a big signing but that’s just neglect.
Yeah, of the not-likelys still out there, Beuchemin would fit the long-term really well. I used to think he just rode Niedermayer’s sidecar to his job, but he’s turned that into Young Jedi status instead.
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Logan now reporting that Neil is finalizing a deal somewhere else
Snow never called his agent.
Moen is not getting an offer from Snow either.
Old goalies
Nice post by mc79hockey on the Khabibulin contract, and how few goalies play many games at that age.
Roloson has been an exception. I trust he’ll continue to be :)
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Interesting read on Botta's site regarding Komi
Apparantly Burke is still pissed off over the draft.
If anyone watched you’ll recall Burke taking Kadri to spite Ottawa.
It appears he is bitter about lookin like an ass over Tavares. Once he heard the Isles had a bid in for the guy Burke went to blow Snow out of the water.
Looking at it realisticly it is a bit much for a guy coming off an injury plagues season.
Heh, funny. Just a theory, though. I’d think about it more if Komisarek didn’t fit Burke’s profile so well and he wasn’t prone to pay for size. At $4.5M/5, it doesn’t sound like he had to blow other bidders out of the water, though.
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Anyone else feel that Rolson will be the 2nd coming of Beezer to the Island? A great elite goalie with Cup and Playoff Experince who just looks sad out there playing for a horrible team?
I think Roloson has more left than Beezer, though. He got a late start on his NHL career, I think he’s highly motivated to maximize his time. And he was playing quite well through the end of this season.
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I’ve seen you mention he had a great 2nd half. Obviously he also knew it was a contract year. But if we are going to go by having a hot 2nd half, they might as well kept Danis around for next to nothing. The season before Beezer played in LI, he was signed by Philly and everyone thought he would help backstop them to the finals.
True, but the reason I focused on the 2nd half is they had tried their best to make a younger replacement fit. When that didn’t happen (and Deslauriers still doesn’t get the job now that they signed Khabibulin), they went back to who works: Roloson.
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I’m still surprised they signed Bulin. He hasn’t played 60 games in forever. He’s obviously good if you want a playoff Vet, but I didn’t think the Oilers were that close to the playoffs.
Yeah, Khabibulin almost felt like a panic move after Roloson went elsewhere. Pat Quinn has relied on a hevy workload goaltender in the past; maybe that’s what they’re hoping for — but like you said, he hasn’t been a workhorse in recent years.
Remember the beginning of last season when the Oilers were hyped as the next big young thing, flashed on the cover of THN? That was one I never understood.
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Snow - Please Sign Beauchemin
Does anyone else think that Beauchemin and Streit as a top pairing for the next couple of years would be great.
Both are in their prime and Beauchemin would be a great pure defensive defenseman to the more offensively oriented (but defensively responsible) Streit, also his stats show that he faced tougher quality of opposition than Streit and did not get burnt (-1 compared to Scott Niedermayer who had the same quality of opposition and was -6 on the year)…
Count me in
I would love it. Value-wise, it would do a whole lot more for me than Komisarek. Sort of surprised we haven’t heard anything in that area, because although the D is already crowded with NHL contracts, he’s the type that would fit Gordon and Streit perfectly.
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I Know...
But Beauchemin would just fit – not the big hitting defensive defenseman but the smart defensive defenseman who could play next to Streit…
I hold out hope because he was not snapped up straight away and that means it is more likely that someone has not lost their mind for him…
Rangers sign Gaborik
5 years at 5.75 per.
TSN.
I know Sather was gonna fuck that team up even more but I didn’t think it would be this bad.
7.5 per
WOW!!!!!
This is worse than Gomez!!!!!
No way! What a Sather. Hey, Gaborik is a scoring machine … when healthy, hee hee.
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Gaborik meet
Witt, Sutton, Pronger, Lucic, Chara, Laperierre, etc
That guy stays healthy for the first month..
Gaborik meet Pronger
Hopefully the first time the Rangers and Philly meet next season Pronger reminds everyone that Gaborik is fragile.
That seems really mean…but this has been a tough day to watch considering the Gomez thing and then the Komisarik thing and now Gaborik is a Ranger…this is almost as bad as UFA day in 2007 when we lost about 7 guys (Smyth, Poti, Kozlov, etc.) and only signed Jon Sim. I know that Snow said that he didn’t have any big plans for today but its still hard to watch.
The thing with Gaborik is most of his injuries have been … not self-inflicted but skating/pivoting related. Groin, groin, hip, groin. There’s talk he had the same Magic Hip Surgery that others cough Islanders have had, and the hope is that this move will prevent further groin injuries.
I know what you mean — I don’t wish injury on any non-Avery. But it would be a shame for the Rangers to reap the rewards of all those Minnesota-paid dues.
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Pretty big money for him. Yikes.
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what about Sykora?
I personally would rather the Isles avoid the goon market, unless they can get one who can skate AND play more than 5 minutes AND can score about 10-15 goals a season. I know, I’m asking a lot.
I’d rather see them go after someone who can provide 20-25 goals – how about Sykora for maybe $3 a season for 2 years? maybe tell him under the table that you’ll trade him to a contender if we’re out of the playoff picture.
providing a guy like that for either bailey or tavares would help them out, and would give the team some veteran leadership too
That’d be nice, but I think they’re focused on letting the kids fill out the prime scoring line minutes. Sykora might be seen as just blocking youth. Although if he could come cheap, it would be a nice bone to throw and make the team a little more competitive.
I like this:
maybe tell him under the table that you’ll trade him to a contender if we’re out of the playoff picture.
I don’t think any under the table is necessary — any vet who signs with the Islanders right now knows he’s trade deadline bait, even Weight!
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