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Not a big surprise, but really cool nonetheless. Kyle Okposo is just 21, he had a solid World Championships for Team USA, and I don't think he realizes yet just how good he can be. This will only help. Congratulations to the young winger.

Who scores more goals next year - Okposo or JT?

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Could be a fun race. I’m think 50 goals total between the two of ’em would be a nice start.

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by Dominik on Jun 30, 2009 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tavares will boost Okposo' production

granted he had a slow start last year but it was his first season.

I think Kyle can get anywhere between 25-35 goals this season. Two years down the line playing with Tavares I think he’ll regularly be in that 40-50 range.

by Chickendirt on Jun 30, 2009 3:11 PM EDT reply actions  

I hope so. Tavares will have a lot of adjustment this year. If he’s playing center, it’s adjusting to those responsibilities (and getting shots) against NHL bodies. If he’s on the wing, it’s adjusting to playing on the wing.

With more talent around, I’ll be disappointed if Okposo doesn’t eventually get to that 40-goal range.

I can’t believe we’re talking about this kind of goal total with the Islanders. Man, it’s been a while.

Lighthouse Hockey: Side effects may include Weight gain and frequent game loss.

by Dominik on Jun 30, 2009 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would bet a lot of money that KO never scores 40+ goals in his career.

He’s never been a very prolific goal scorer, and every full season of his career he’s had more assists than goals.

I like KO very much, but he’s more of a 25-35 max kind of player. Nothing wrong with that, and perfectly acceptable for a top 10 pick.

by AP77 on Jun 30, 2009 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

You’re on!

No, I agree there’s nothing wrong with 25-35 max for a top 10 pick. And he does have a more rounded game than a pure sniper. It takes something else to get to over 40 goals even under today’s rules, but stints last year — and thinking of Brad Boyes — make me hope for the 40 range.

But imagining a PP of Weight-Streit-Bailey-Okposo-Tavares has me dreaming of things…

Lighthouse Hockey: Side effects may include Weight gain and frequent game loss.

by Dominik on Jun 30, 2009 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Depends on the Center you have playing with these guys

That can make all the difference in the world.

Derek King with out Pierre Turgeon was not a 25-30 goal scorer. Look at John Leclaire before hooking up with Lindros. Also, recall a guy named Renberg?

Same with a lot of the guys that played with Lemuieux and Lafonataine.

Besides, it’s the centers job to distribute the puck and make his wingers better. Really, the job of a wing is just to get in position to score.

If Tavers is as good as billed, Okposo is gonne score a ton of goals. JT will improve those numbers.

by Chickendirt on Jun 30, 2009 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree with a lot of your examples, but they all come from a different era of higher scoring. Can anyone imagine John Leclair scoring 50 goals for three straight years in today’s NHL regardless of his center?

JT will certainly help KO’s game. With that said, however, JT isn’t exactly billed as a play-making center. He’s a goal scorer in his own right. In that regard, he represents a possible hybrid between Crosby and Ovechkin.

by AP77 on Jun 30, 2009 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Look at JTs assist totals in Jrs

He had 78 and 46 last season.

Drop off has a lot to do with platying fewer games and the Trade of Oshawa to London.

Tavares can set people up.

The media and fans in Canada were really pissed off when it became apparent JT was going to a US team. They went crazy at that point poking holes in this kids game and tearing him a part.

They also played a big role in Burke trying to aquire JT by claiming Dushesne was the better pick as was Hedman.

by Chickendirt on Jun 30, 2009 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

A lot of that is by a very bitter Toronto press that ain't happy about the guy

playing on Long Island.

Look up JT’s assist totals in Juniors.

62
78
46

Respectivly. I’d say the drop off in assists his last season has a lot to do with leaving Oshawa for London having to get to know a whole new set of line mates. Tavares can make plays and set people up.

http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=89823

You don’t put up those kinds of numbers in assists if you can’t set people up and make plays.

by Chickendirt on Jun 30, 2009 4:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Is it a Given that JT will be in the NHL next season?

Chicago, Pittsburgh and Washington all recovered quickly due to Top 5 Picks in back to back years.

by Mark D on Jun 30, 2009 7:30 PM EDT reply actions  

Almost a certainty

I haven’t seen a single hint that he won’t be, and I’d bet the estate on it. (Ah, if only I had an estate.)

Even so, another bottom 5 finish is absolutely possible. Problem is, The Grand Hype has only touted the top 1 or 2 prospects in next year’s draft.

Lighthouse Hockey: Side effects may include Weight gain and frequent game loss.

by Dominik on Jun 30, 2009 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

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