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NHL Draft: Islanders celebration & 1st-round open thread

Greetings, regulars and newbies. This is the NHL Draft live thread for comments from Islanders fans and other visitors at Lighthouse Hockey. This is where the blow-by-blow will be before the pick, after the pick (assuming everyone's still alive), leading up through the rest of the first round.

After the pick, I will probably throw up a quick reaction post relating to that pick specifically. But this is the Lighthouse Hockey post where I'll be chiming in for the rest of the goings-on of the 1st round (again, assuming my heart keeps ticking) throughout the night. As for other coverage, live blogs and the latest from the other bloggers live on the floor, check the list in this coverage post.

Needless to say, the Web is absolutely booming with coverage and quips around the draft today -- all entertaining yet hard to keep up with. In Tavares We Trust...

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by David Driscoll-Carignan on Jun 26, 2009 5:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Gotta be a hoax. The kid has been media trained since 15, I don’t see him suddenly breaking form now.

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by Dominik on Jun 26, 2009 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

This has been a long a day

An hour and half til we know for sure,

A whole season has not come down to these final minutes.

by Chickendirt on Jun 26, 2009 5:31 PM EDT reply actions  

I know – when was the first time I thought of John Tavares as a possibility? Feels like a long time ago.

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by Dominik on Jun 26, 2009 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

TSN Reports Atlanta is looking to deal their pick

Wanna move up Mr Snow?

Here’s your shot.

We walk out with Svensson or Cowen along with JT we can call it a coup.

by Chickendirt on Jun 26, 2009 5:37 PM EDT reply actions  

No doubt. If he can make a big move to take two top picks, it’d be a helluva day. Atl’s pick is too high, though.

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by Dominik on Jun 26, 2009 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Smoke and Mirrors?

I think most every team is taking the Snow approach and being pretty liberal with the possibilities they are left open for…whether its true however is questionable.

by HugoAgogo on Jun 26, 2009 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

That would make sense. Odd how ATL has been associated so much with Kane and is now willing to back off. Maybe they can get Kane later? (Cowen would seem to be in the mix up there.)

Heh, I’m speculating off of speculation of speculation.

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by Dominik on Jun 26, 2009 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Like it (if the Isles choose Tavares as expected) or Not (not Tavares)…the Isles have done a good job of dictating the pace in the lead up to the draft…doesn’t it feel like the extent of rumour-mongering has been brought on heavily due to Snow’s and the Isles poker-face?

by HugoAgogo on Jun 26, 2009 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Totally. I hear people outside the Islanders fandom citing all the hoopla before this draft, and I’m thinking, “Man, this is mostly Snow’s doing.”

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by Dominik on Jun 26, 2009 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m sure Eklund is using this to steal more money from naive teenagers on his site.

TSN is reporting Ottawa would like to have Heatly dealt by the end of the day.

Kessel and Kaberle is not going to happen.

by Chickendirt on Jun 26, 2009 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good stuff. Yeah, The Rumor has to be making a mint. Pronger was dealt last week, right? To LA?

I love Ottawa: There is a $4 million bonus that they have to pay July 1. They can’t both ask for the moon for Heatley and demand the deal is done before that bonus kicks in.

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by Dominik on Jun 26, 2009 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have visions of Okposo, Tavares, Heatly dancing in my head.

by Chickendirt on Jun 26, 2009 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

This would only happen if it was more important to offload the 4-million than get fair return for Heatley (which is unlikely)…

by HugoAgogo on Jun 26, 2009 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t think he’s coming here.

OTOH; Doubt Ottawa gets a fair return given that Heatly demanded a trade and they are trying to get out of paying that bonus. They’ll still get something good but it won’t be fair value.

by Chickendirt on Jun 26, 2009 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

True…but if Ottawa were looking to overload the 4 million dollar bonus rather than get anything near fair value…it could be into highway robbery territory (or least worth the GM’s trying to see if this is a possibility)…

by HugoAgogo on Jun 26, 2009 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dreger reporting

on TSN that any deal for Heatly right now is dead.

by Chickendirt on Jun 26, 2009 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Heatley has really stabbed them good.

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by Dominik on Jun 26, 2009 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ha, pretty sure I had a comment here. I think it was about Heatley stabbing Ottawa real good.

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by Dominik on Jun 26, 2009 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh Pronger?

Dreger on TSN is saying there are talks with Phillie right now regarding Pronger.

by Chickendirt on Jun 26, 2009 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

The guys in Atlanta have no idea what they are doing

and have no clue how to build a team.

If there was a team to rob of a pick that’s it. Although I have to admit I’d feel kinda crappy about it.

by Chickendirt on Jun 26, 2009 6:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Good point. (And I’d feel crappy, too. But I’d get over it.)

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by Dominik on Jun 26, 2009 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Possibly. . .

. . . my last night as an Islanders fan. Odd feeling.

FYI, the skies just opened in Manhattan. Ominous sign for the Isles?

by AP77 on Jun 26, 2009 6:27 PM EDT reply actions  

You need to pour yourself a drink to “enjoy” your last hour. Any special food requests?

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by Dominik on Jun 26, 2009 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Still in the office, unfortunately, although that’s not a compelling reason not to drink, I suppose.

I’d put the odds at selecting JT at under 10%, based on my super-scientific probability calculations.

by AP77 on Jun 26, 2009 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

In this world, all you gotta do is select a number with conviction and somebody will believe it.

I can’t say drinking at the office hasn’t crossed my mind…

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by Dominik on Jun 26, 2009 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

You'll be back

We’ve all said this millions of times.

We’re idiots and keep comeing back for more.

by Chickendirt on Jun 26, 2009 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, I think I’m really done. I won’t pick up another team. At least not for a while — got to take some time for myself, you know?

But I can’t do this anymore.

by AP77 on Jun 26, 2009 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I said the same thing last year at the draft

Took me a few days to come to grips with what Garth did. In a sense it was really smart. He had to get the guy who he felt could best survive this team psychologically and had the best talent.

The team needed a body. We were really thin at center.

Lots of factors to consider as there was no help coming from the UFA market.

Same thing this year.

by Chickendirt on Jun 26, 2009 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

And the rationale for not taking JT is . . .?

by AP77 on Jun 26, 2009 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

If they have one, I’ll listen — as long as they actually detail it, instead of just hiding behind “best player available.” They’ve seen the environment the last few weeks; if they’re not taking JT, they should have taken more steps to manage fan expectations.

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by Dominik on Jun 26, 2009 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have to say I was fine with the Bailey moves last year. We needed to stock up, and they saw something in Bailey.

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by Dominik on Jun 26, 2009 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

That sucks. But I identify with the battered feeling … I was hanging by a string during the Milbury years.

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by Dominik on Jun 26, 2009 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

More Duchene...

Everyone, they’re mother, they’re brother, they’re ancestors, and the Avs sources think it’s Duchene. Which means it will be Tavares.

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by Dominik on Jun 26, 2009 6:27 PM EDT reply actions  

(Honestly, if Snow has kept ’em guessing this long, he could likely take it all the way to the stage.) The only way I think the Avs could know is if Snow tipped his hand when fielding “significant” offers for the #1.

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by Dominik on Jun 26, 2009 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Avs sources think that it’s Duchene going at #1 because as Duchene is (was) a fan of the Avs this would annoy the Avs fan-base which covet him….

by HugoAgogo on Jun 26, 2009 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Duchene seems about right for this god-forsaken franchise.

by AP77 on Jun 26, 2009 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

As long as the first thing out of Bettman’s mouth is “We have a trade to announce. The NY Islanders………”

by FireGarthSnow on Jun 26, 2009 6:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Meant to say " is not" sorry.

by FireGarthSnow on Jun 26, 2009 6:40 PM EDT reply actions  

BREAKING

I hate this team.

Fire Garth Snow indeed.

by AP77 on Jun 26, 2009 6:40 PM EDT reply actions  

After 35 years, I’ve seen the best and worse of the Islanders. Comes with the territory with this franchise, especially if you survived Milbury.

by FireGarthSnow on Jun 26, 2009 6:43 PM EDT reply actions  

The need to ignore Milbury-induced scarring...

Hopefully Snow doesn’t do the Milbury move with the shoe when trying to escape from ensuing riots

by HugoAgogo on Jun 26, 2009 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

The suspense is pretty deadly…however this could pan out really well for the Isles

At least the Isles control their own fate (although this control could actually be the problem)…whereas the teams below have to plan for any insanity…

by HugoAgogo on Jun 26, 2009 6:43 PM EDT reply actions  

I’m definitely appreciating how he has everybody’s fate in his hands.

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by Dominik on Jun 26, 2009 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey Guys,

I finally got the Live Blog going so if you’re interested drop by there.

IslesOfficialsOutlook.blogspot.com

From the Penalty Box to the Blog Box! Check it out at Isles Official's Outlook!

by IslesOfficial on Jun 26, 2009 6:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Oh yeah! We got it covered now.

The connection at the Belle Centre was originally paltry for IslesOfficial. I think he’s up to cruising speed now.

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by Dominik on Jun 26, 2009 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Grindhouse....

Watching the end of “GrindHouse” while waiting. Think we can find 3 Ice Girls to kick Snow’s butt and strap him to the hood of a car if he doesn’t take JT?

by FireGarthSnow on Jun 26, 2009 6:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Nice. I do believe that’s the first Grindhouse reference on this blog :)

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by Dominik on Jun 26, 2009 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, Versus has auto racing so…….

by FireGarthSnow on Jun 26, 2009 6:58 PM EDT reply actions  

Danica is no ice girl.

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by Dominik on Jun 26, 2009 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

If it's Tavares,

I’m grabbing a beer.

If it’s someone else, I’m hitting the whiskey.

(Note to kids: Drinking is not the answer)

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by Dominik on Jun 26, 2009 7:02 PM EDT reply actions  

“The Toronto braintrust was here a whole hour before anyone else.”

— And that, I believe, is why Snow kept everyone in the dark.

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by Dominik on Jun 26, 2009 7:03 PM EDT reply actions  

Got the JD all ready, no matter

by FireGarthSnow on Jun 26, 2009 7:03 PM EDT reply actions  

TSN hasn’t shown this many Isles jerseys since … well before there was a TSN.

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by Dominik on Jun 26, 2009 7:04 PM EDT reply actions  

Apparently Pronger to the Flyers…

by HugoAgogo on Jun 26, 2009 7:06 PM EDT reply actions  

I love that they’re talking more about Heatley than the actual deal. It’s like, “This MVP/Norris winner was dealt, but it didn’t involve a Canadian team.”

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by Dominik on Jun 26, 2009 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s pretty much normal though right…?

by HugoAgogo on Jun 26, 2009 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pretty much!

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by Dominik on Jun 26, 2009 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

What did Dreger just say about Pronger to PHI? Dammit, wife has the TV with the DVR, I’m stuck with the live-only feed.

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by Dominik on Jun 26, 2009 7:06 PM EDT reply actions  

Wow. It would have to be a lot, I’d think, but both teams are up against the cap. Interesting.

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by Dominik on Jun 26, 2009 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

First TSN shot of the Coliseum

Jesus, it’s full.

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by Dominik on Jun 26, 2009 7:08 PM EDT reply actions  

I hate this team.

by AP77 on Jun 26, 2009 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hee hee. Have you chosen your last meal? (Not to make light of your crisis.)

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by Dominik on Jun 26, 2009 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

I prefer to do my drinking on an empty stomach.

TSN internet audio feed picked up the Newsday story re: Duchene and ran with it.

by AP77 on Jun 26, 2009 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dreger is awaiting confirmation on Pronger to Philly. Haven’t seen the old Mausoleum that crowded in a while( Besideds Rags games)

by FireGarthSnow on Jun 26, 2009 7:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Some guy who as toyed with Liverpool for too long is at the podium speaking French.

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by Dominik on Jun 26, 2009 7:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Whoops, scratch that. I thought I heard Gillette.

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by Dominik on Jun 26, 2009 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bettman just got a rousing round of BOOOOOOOOOOOO’s.

by FireGarthSnow on Jun 26, 2009 7:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Yet being Bettman, he’s just gonna keep talking. And talking. And talking.

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by Dominik on Jun 26, 2009 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Awesome, I’m watching the carnage at the Barn via nhl.com.

by AP77 on Jun 26, 2009 7:15 PM EDT reply actions  

They have a cam? I gotta check that.

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by Dominik on Jun 26, 2009 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh my god, I’m dying here.

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by Dominik on Jun 26, 2009 7:17 PM EDT reply actions  

Hee hee

Garth knows one French word. “Bonjour.”

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by Dominik on Jun 26, 2009 7:18 PM EDT reply actions  

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

by AP77 on Jun 26, 2009 7:18 PM EDT reply actions  

YOU’RE BAAAAAA—-AAAAAAACK!!!!

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by Dominik on Jun 26, 2009 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Correct. WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

by AP77 on Jun 26, 2009 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by FireGarthSnow on Jun 26, 2009 7:19 PM EDT reply actions  

It turns out Snow is not insane (at this point)

by HugoAgogo on Jun 26, 2009 7:19 PM EDT reply actions  

That was beautiful

What a poker game by Snow.

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by Dominik on Jun 26, 2009 7:20 PM EDT reply actions  

And somehow...

This is almost more satisfying that the ‘Seen Stamkos’ type of draft selection…

by HugoAgogo on Jun 26, 2009 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

In hindsight.

I still wouldn’t have minded announcing JT back in April, though.

by AP77 on Jun 26, 2009 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Guess Garth doesn’t get fired, at least for now ;)

by FireGarthSnow on Jun 26, 2009 7:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Haha! If he ever wins you over, we can alter your screenname. But that’d be a lot of tradition to leave behind…

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by Dominik on Jun 26, 2009 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m off to purchase a JT jersey.

WOOOOO!!!

by AP77 on Jun 26, 2009 7:23 PM EDT reply actions  

LMAO Dom. I’ll have to change it to KeepGarthSnow.

by FireGarthSnow on Jun 26, 2009 7:23 PM EDT reply actions  

PurgatoryGarthSnow

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by Dominik on Jun 26, 2009 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Next years PP:

Bailey fakes to Okposo, drops to Tavares for the goal!

Weight walks in to celebrate from the point.

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by Dominik on Jun 26, 2009 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Quick, sign him for 15 years!!!

by AP77 on Jun 26, 2009 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nah, passe. Make it 20!!

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by Dominik on Jun 26, 2009 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

What was the Ole Barn like when Tavares was announced? anybody, anybody?

by FireGarthSnow on Jun 26, 2009 7:30 PM EDT reply actions  

The place erupted. Confetti and all.

by AP77 on Jun 26, 2009 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Awesome

Dreger to Lawton, with Hedman sitting between them: “Would you have taken Victor 1st overall if you were in that position?”

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by Dominik on Jun 26, 2009 7:31 PM EDT reply actions  

YES!

I have to admit, I was pretty nervous waiting for Snow to announce the pick. Glad he made the decision though. Only really came into the NYI analysis through blogs, podcasts and the like in the last few months, but I have to say that for all the time I’ve been looking at it, Garth Snow’s played it pretty well, even down to cracking jokes in the TSN interview.

by Andrew R on Jun 26, 2009 7:32 PM EDT reply actions  

Sweet. Yeah, it’s funny that he played it so well, we were ready to crucify him — or believe that he deserved crucifixion.

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by Dominik on Jun 26, 2009 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bossy

Bossy just said that goal scorers “put butts in the seats.”

Correct.

by AP77 on Jun 26, 2009 7:34 PM EDT reply actions  

What Bossy says,

I record in a book that shall be passed down for generations.

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by Dominik on Jun 26, 2009 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

And chicks dig the long ball

by FireGarthSnow on Jun 26, 2009 7:39 PM EDT reply actions  

And love a man in uniform.

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by Dominik on Jun 26, 2009 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wee bit of a new post

I added a Tavares announcement post here, if anybody wants to read or record thoughts.

(Set to open in a new window, because if you close this window, sometimes these live threads run slow once you try to click back in.)

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by Dominik on Jun 26, 2009 7:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Terrorists?

bitch, RECOGNIZE !!!

Oh yeah, and rec’d ….

.... formerly "Tim" of StLouisGameTime.com

by CrossCheckRaise on Jun 26, 2009 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ha!

Thought that might get you guys up. I’m having weird connection problems that are making my SBN navigation difficult. Trying to get to SLGT, too.

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by Dominik on Jun 26, 2009 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Schenn to L.A.

Burke, it’s safe to say, has struck out.

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by Dominik on Jun 26, 2009 7:57 PM EDT reply actions  

NYI MOVE UP!!

Taking Columbus’ pick!

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by Dominik on Jun 26, 2009 7:59 PM EDT reply actions  

16th overall

KGS, you’re getting your wish. No word yet on the price.

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by Dominik on Jun 26, 2009 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

The deal

16 and 77 for 26, 37, 62 and 92.

I’m cool with that. Jumping up 10 spots is huge.

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by Dominik on Jun 26, 2009 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Irony of it is....

With this Snow has now had more success in moving up in the draft than Burke

by HugoAgogo on Jun 26, 2009 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fantastic.

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by Dominik on Jun 26, 2009 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow, 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and 4th rounder for 1st and 3rd. Wonder who the target is? Good move with this draft. Not as deep as last season was.

by FireGarthSnow on Jun 26, 2009 8:03 PM EDT reply actions  

Agreed. I suppose at that spot, they’re guaranteed of a good D-man?

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by Dominik on Jun 26, 2009 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

CBJ 16 and 77 for NYI 26, 37, 62, and 92…the Isles adopting the inverse strategy of last season’s draft

by HugoAgogo on Jun 26, 2009 8:05 PM EDT reply actions  

Kulikov? Loves to jump into the rush.

by FireGarthSnow on Jun 26, 2009 8:06 PM EDT reply actions  

Isles announcement

Buy season tickets tonight, meet Tavares next week. (The kid deserves a bonus already.)

No word whether you get to kiss his feet.

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by Dominik on Jun 26, 2009 8:18 PM EDT reply actions  

That’s what nobody outside of Long Island seemed to understand. Btw, just got a call form one of my buddies back east, and he happily is re-upping his tickets. THAT’S why they needed JT.

by FireGarthSnow on Jun 26, 2009 8:21 PM EDT reply actions  

That’s beautiful. Pretty much why this decision was so huge. “You can’t let fan momentum dictate your choice” — unless it’s the right choice and your revenue base depends on it!

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by Dominik on Jun 26, 2009 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

You should put that in your Bossy book. A quote worth remembering,lol

by FireGarthSnow on Jun 26, 2009 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

The book that future GMs will will be sworn in over.

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by Dominik on Jun 26, 2009 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ottawa Gets Cowen

I mean, they can’t go wrong there. I don’t know why they wanted Kadri over him anyway, unless they counted on getting D assets for Heatley.

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by Dominik on Jun 26, 2009 8:27 PM EDT reply actions  

To Edmonton.

Their description of his hustle and hands sounds like Bergenheim.

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by Dominik on Jun 26, 2009 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Murray of OTT:

“Well, we’ll probably have Dany Heatley playing LW on our hockey team if it doesn’t work out.”

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by Dominik on Jun 26, 2009 8:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Uh-oh

Starting to wonder what D-men will be left at 16.

/looks for list

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by Dominik on Jun 26, 2009 8:47 PM EDT reply actions  

YES! NYI moving up again?

Boom-chicka-boom. KeepGarthSnow.

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by Dominik on Jun 26, 2009 8:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Looks like they’re grabbing swapping with WIld at 12. Wild had — haha — nine picks in the last two drafts.

… and the pick is De Haan. Interesting. Lot of people didn’t think he would even be taken by 16. Curious.

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by Dominik on Jun 26, 2009 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not a good one here. they could of stayed at 26 and possibly gotten him. Certainly @16. Garth wasted two picks here.

by FireGarthSnow on Jun 26, 2009 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

spoke too soon..DeHaan?

by FireGarthSnow on Jun 26, 2009 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pronger on the line on TSN

Will they ask him if Mrs. Pronger likes Philly?

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by Dominik on Jun 26, 2009 8:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Gist of interview: I rule. I brought Ducks what they wanted, and it worked out. I will do the same in Philly. This is fun stuff for me.

44 as a Flyer. I’m about to hate Chris Pronger a whole, whole, whole lot more.

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by Dominik on Jun 26, 2009 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

How soon before Pronger throws his first elbow into JT"s mug? Now we need a true enforcer.

by FireGarthSnow on Jun 26, 2009 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's Only One Year (At the Moment)...

And Philly Mortgaged their future and are also over the cap.
Long-term this is good for Philly-haters…

by HugoAgogo on Jun 26, 2009 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wrecker has the guts to do it, challenging Laraque, but he needs to improve the actual skills.

by FireGarthSnow on Jun 26, 2009 9:01 PM EDT reply actions  

Agreed. Laraque only wanted to try to dupe him.

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by Dominik on Jun 26, 2009 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Actually, Laraque said Wrecker asked if he wanted to go, and according to The Code, Georges oblidged. It was a good short read on Hockeyfights.com. I’ll see if I can find it.

here it is( I hope)
http://www.hockeyfights.com/quickhits/qh/entry/the-veteran-rookie-relationship/

by FireGarthSnow on Jun 26, 2009 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know. I remember reading that. But I didn’t like the way Laraque made all that body language as if the Wrecker was scared. He did the equivalent of “don’t hold me back” by gliding backwards while grinning and saying “come on, don’t back away.”

That’s my read of the video, even though Wrecker said all the right gracious things. Just thought it was a dick move (if wily vet move) by Georges.

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by Dominik on Jun 26, 2009 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wish we would have taken Kulikov instead of DeHaan

by FireGarthSnow on Jun 26, 2009 9:09 PM EDT reply actions  

I don’t even know who I wanted; I wasn’t expecting to move up that far, and once we did, I sure wasn’t expecting it to be De Haan.

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by Dominik on Jun 26, 2009 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Seems like more people were here for the Draft Lottery than the actual draft. Strange…

by FireGarthSnow on Jun 26, 2009 9:21 PM EDT reply actions  

heh, I know two of ’em are in Montreal on the floor. I had the chance to go, but a trip abroad last week scuttled that plan.

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by Dominik on Jun 26, 2009 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Still on the board...

Despres is still there. Grrrr…….

by FireGarthSnow on Jun 26, 2009 9:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Many thanks, Dom

Dom, thanks for the live blog as well. Appreciate the opportunity to talk some puck with fellow Isles fans.

by FireGarthSnow on Jun 26, 2009 9:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Hey man, any time. Really appreciate you coming by. I’ll be around tomorrow, too — though I’m sure it will be quite a bit more boring! (Particularly now that we shot our extra picks.) At least the 2nd round should be fun.

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by Dominik on Jun 26, 2009 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

So the Isles are done for the night

But they held on to the first pick tomorrow (#31) and they have Boston’s pick in the 2nd still, too. Not bad. But the de Haan move still scratches the head.

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by Dominik on Jun 26, 2009 9:58 PM EDT reply actions  

Now I just want to see where C-Moan De-Pray ends up. Will try to wake up at 7am, which is when it starts in Vegas.

by FireGarthSnow on Jun 26, 2009 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t get that move at all. I love the trade up to #12, but then taking de Haan there? Huh? Central Scouting had him at #25 just in North America. I would have loved to take Kassian there.

Oh well. Tavares: Woooooo!!!

by AP77 on Jun 26, 2009 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, it’s funny: I’m happy with Snow today because he took Tavares and he really leveraged the extra picks to move up. But on the other hand, he took the obvious #1 and then he spent assets to get a guy that might very well have been there at the original spot.

But maybe not. Maybe there was a market for De Haan on the floor that the pundits didn’t see. Maybe they really wanted him because he gels with Tavares in Oshawa. I’m excited to have him; I just thought if we got him it would be in the 21-26 range, based on what I read going in.

Oh well. Tavares: Woooo!! indeed!

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by Dominik on Jun 27, 2009 12:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed. It’s almost as if the Islanders, having done the right thing with their first pick for a change, were still determined to do something “unexpected” and, quite frankly, stupid.

I don’t think this is knee-jerk Snow-hating either. I was actually fine with Snow’s moves during the last draft. Filatov would have been nice, but the Isles had no kind of centers and I like Bailey.

But this one makes no sense. It’s almost certain that De Haan would have been there at #26. I was also struck by the Oshawa connection and thought maybe the scouts saw something in De Haan while peeing Tavares for all that time. Nonetheless, they probably still could have picked him up at #26, so moving up so far to get him doesn’t make much sense. Particularly with a couple of many prototypical NHL power forwards still on the board at #12.

In today’s NHL, I think it’s become increasingly difficult to pick up scoring talent, so I think it’s really important to get that through the draft. I mean, look at the Pens: Hal Gill was their #3 for fuck’s sake. Defense is over-rated these days (and I say that as a defenseman in my own right).

by AP77 on Jun 27, 2009 1:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Haha, the “S.S. Hall Gill,” no less. That’s why I want no part of Komisarek at his asking price, though I was wooed by the idea earlier in the year. Don’t need to be paying premiums for defensemen unless they’re significant parts of the attack.

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by Dominik on Jun 27, 2009 3:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

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