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SKATES...SHMATES!!!

I’d like to personally comment on the “new skate” theory. Fans must understand that the skates you buy in retail stores or online are not the same skates the pros wear. Custom skates have quite a few differences from their retail brethren because they are made stiffer, lighter and to the player’s personal specifications.

I can attest having purchased a pair of Graf customs via the Northeast NHL Graf representative. The skates can range in stiffness from 1-5. 1 is the off-the-shelf variety and 5 is akin to a ski boot in stiffness. I’m wearing a pair with 3 stiffness which is in the range the pros wear (between 3-5). The better the skater and the more you weigh are the determining factors for the stiffness of the skates. Elite skaters require a stiffer boot in the range of 3-4 because of the more aggressive skating that they are capable of. Without that stiffness, especially in the ankle, while in a turn the skates would most likely touch the ice and cause the skater to wipe out.
  
The argument I have is that most likely the “new skates” have nothing to do with players going down with groin and hip injuries. It is most likely due to the speed the game has achieved since the Lockout, the size and fitness of the players and the quality of the ice surface that they skate on.

When you put the kind of wear and tear on your body for upwards of 11 months out of the year it’s no surprise that these kinds of injuries (joints, muscle pulls, hips, knees, groin, etc.) will happen.

Also, if you’ve ever been on the ice after a period where a group of 40 men averaging 200lbs each have been skating for a 40 minutes you’ll notice that the ice is pretty torn up and that also has alot to do with injury issues.

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Botta said he’s heard this complaint from “dozens” of others in the game, so it will be interesting to watch if it becomes another trendy theory and a special committee is formed for Examination of Skate Stiffness.

Seriously, I had a similar reaction: 1) Doesn’t each player customize and tinker with his skates? 2) Isn’t post-lockout, obstruction-free hockey — where you have to truly backcheck rather than water ski — plus continued shitty ice make for greater physical demands on groins and hips?

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by Dominik on Apr 1, 2009 10:33 AM EDT reply actions  

It won’t become a trend. I can say that with absolute certainty. The HECC already presides over all hockey equipment in North America and even the custom skate business is highly controlled. The hockey equipment manufacturer’s will most likely do more testing as a result but I doubt anything will be discovered which hasn’t already been addressed. Don’t forget that companies like Bauer (thank goodness I don’t have to say Nike anymore), Graf, CCM/Maska, Easton, Mission, etc. do extensive R&D before releasing products. The skates I’m in now, Graf Ultra G3’s, took 5 years of development before they were released to the public and pros alike. The torsional stiffness for top-of-the-line models like mine is the way it is for a reason. I chose to make them that stiff based on the criteria I provided above (weight, skating competence).

Botta’s report of “dozens” of players is an exaggeration in my opinion. If they are complaining about a piece of equipment it is usually in the durability department. Plus, if they can customize to whatever spec they want, then it is hypocritical at best to criticize their own choices.

I would definitely say that the increased physical demands and crappy ice conditions are the related factors to the increase in injury problems in the NHL.

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by IslesOfficial on Apr 1, 2009 1:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Just wanted to correct one of the sentences because it made me look like a “dee-da-dee”:
“The torsional stiffness for top-of-the-line models like mine are that way for a reason.”

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by IslesOfficial on Apr 1, 2009 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

You’re actually just trying to make me jealous of your Grafs, aren’t you? I get it. Fine, be that way. :-)

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by Dominik on Apr 1, 2009 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

All you have to do is ask me. I’ve referred like 15 people to the guy for skates. Ask Mike. He’s got a pair of Ultra G35’s custom. I could ask him if he knows the guy that works the Midwest if you want?

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by IslesOfficial on Apr 2, 2009 8:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

I may hit you up on that. I’m on pair #3 in the last year trying to fit my rehabbed ankle right.

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by Dominik on Apr 2, 2009 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

I love my new skate – it was the first time I put on a brand new pair and didn’t have to bitch and whine about how sore my feet were. They are going to be even better once I get my toe lift and custom foot beds :)

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by Michael Schuerlein on Apr 5, 2009 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

companies like Bauer (thank goodness I don’t have to say Nike anymore)

Amen, with sugar on top.

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