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"It’s happening almost everywhere around the league," he said. The quality of ice and the new models of skates are other factors being looked at. "The new skates," Gordon said, "there’s absolutely no give to them at all."

Scott Gordon, responding to Chris Botta about the team's epic injury list this season, which now includes Mark Streit again. Botta said he's heard the same from "dozens" of coaches/players/trainers. Might be of interest to visiting Caps fans, who have seen their share of injuries and bad ice.

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SKATES, SHMATES!!

I’d like to personally comment on the “new skate” theory. Fans must understand that the skates you buy in retail stores or online are not the same skates the pros wear. Custom skates have quite a few differences from their retail brethren because they are made stiffer, lighter and to the player’s personal specifications.

I can attest having purchased a pair of Graf customs via the Northeast NHL Graf representative. The skates can range in stiffness from 1-5. 1 is the off-the-shelf variety and 5 is akin to a ski boot in stiffness. I’m wearing a pair with 3 stiffness which is in the range the pros wear (between 3-5). The better the skater and the more you weigh are the determining factors for the stiffness of the skates. Elite skaters require a stiffer boot in the range of 3-4 because of the more aggressive skating that they are capable of. Without that stiffness, especially in the ankle, while in a turn the skates would most likely touch the ice and cause the skater to wipe out.
  
The argument I have is that most likely the “new skates” have nothing to do with players going down with groin and hip injuries. It is most likely due to the speed the game has achieved since the Lockout, the size and fitness of the players and the quality of the ice surface that they skate on.

When you put the kind of wear and tear on your body for upwards of 11 months out of the year it’s no surprise that these kinds of injuries (joints, muscle pulls, hips, knees, groin, etc.) will happen.

Also, if you’ve ever been on the ice after a period where a group of 40 men averaging 200lbs each have been skating for a 40 minutes you’ll notice that the ice is pretty torn up and that also has alot to do with injury issues.

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by IslesOfficial on Apr 1, 2009 9:30 AM EDT reply actions  

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Love it. And thanks for the FanPost on it.

The argument I have is that most likely the "new skates" have nothing to do with players going down with groin and hip injuries. It is most likely due to the speed the game has achieved since the Lockout, the size and fitness of the players and the quality of the ice surface that they skate on.

That was kind of my reaction, but I wanted to throw it up there. I love these trendy theories that come and go, but to me both players and goalies playing a much more demanding, skating-intensive kind of hockey on still-shitty ice since the lockout.

if you’ve ever been on the ice after a period where a group of 40 men averaging 200lbs each have been skating for a 40 minutes you’ll notice that the ice is pretty torn up and that also has alot to do with injury issues.

My god, the pros tear up the ice, don’t they? I could skate over the same spot for three hours and not leave those kinds of grooves.

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by Dominik on Apr 1, 2009 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

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