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New York Islanders at Philadelphia Flyers, Dec 8, 2009 7:00 PM EST



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Ray Emery is allergic to cheese. (It's true! It's in the Flyers media guide.) But the terrible, underpublicized affliction of cheese allergy is not why he was put on Injured Reserve (abdominal tear, it turns out). So as expected, we get the same goalie matchup as last time: Martin Biron v. Brian Boucher. Meanwhile:

  • Brendan Witt fears no truck. Although he said he was "a little sore," I suspect he's going to be feeling worse in the morning. Those kinds of blows can have a delayed effect. Should be interesting to see what kind of shape he's in tomorrow night in Toronto.
  • Botta says the Isles have, indeed, shopped for another blueliner. One of these months, maybe they'll find one.
  • The Isles practiced their miserable powerplay ... on choppy ice. Said Streit: "Even [in practice], it didn't really work that well." Excellent.
  • Local product Tony Romano -- suddenly not so local -- was indeed sent to ECHL Utah.

Note: This game is on Versus. This post is our in-game thread, where you leave wit and game observations, conduct general tomfoolery, dodge Yukons -- and spill egg nog, of course. Mind the rug, though.

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Joe B. and Brick

My two least favorite Vs. announcers! Their content is fine, but their voices do grate so.

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by Dominik on Dec 8, 2009 7:04 PM EST reply actions  

Keenan in studio

“Time for Chris Pronger to step up and be the player he can be.”

Wait, so Pronger’s been the problem? Keenan did say “off ice” too, but … well anyone can talk captain-speak. They need players to turn it around on the ice. Hopefully not tonight.

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by Dominik on Dec 8, 2009 7:10 PM EST reply actions  

Witt's first post-Yukon shift

He shows no ill effects. He even looks faster — was their a special superpower element in the fender of that truck?

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by Dominik on Dec 8, 2009 7:13 PM EST reply actions  

#47

So after watching MAB in Montreal last night, now every time I see MacDonald I think it’s Bergeron, and I worry that he’s about to turn it over.

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by Dominik on Dec 8, 2009 7:16 PM EST reply actions  

1-0 Philly

Nice deflection by Richards. And the Isles PK struggles in Biron starts continues.

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by Dominik on Dec 8, 2009 7:26 PM EST reply actions  

2-0. Richards shorthanded

Bad shot attempt by Streit — then he was going to take a slashing penalty on the breakaway to boot. Shit.

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by Dominik on Dec 8, 2009 7:36 PM EST reply actions  

This phone commerical

Killing me. The “phone is your life” montage. Seems effective, but the antsy music gives me the shakes.

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by Dominik on Dec 8, 2009 7:41 PM EST reply actions  

And another penalty

Gervais. Dove low to sweep the puck, but got Hartnell’s leg.

Isles looking very unthreatening.

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by Dominik on Dec 8, 2009 7:42 PM EST reply actions  

End of 1st: 2-0

Well, that was a crappy ass period, and I don’t blame any of you for staying away.

They need to bring a Yukon out there to fire ’em up.

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by Dominik on Dec 8, 2009 7:44 PM EST reply actions  

Why do the Versus d-bag studio commentators have to include Ovechkin in their filler question and then trash him after they show his response?
Question: who do you think is the hardest hitter in the league?
One of the d-bag announcers says, “I thought that Ovechkin would have said himself.” Followed by the ’I’m so witty laugh’

Can’t they get some professionals on there?

Guess what Crosby, Matt Moulson can score hat tricks too and he costs a lot less.

by metalcoconut on Dec 8, 2009 8:02 PM EST reply actions  

Can’t they get some professionals on there?

I missed it, but evidently: No.

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by Dominik on Dec 8, 2009 8:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Joy. I’d run to get a drink — looks like I need to run back to get more.

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by Dominik on Dec 8, 2009 8:11 PM EST up reply actions  

3-0: Carter

Oh, we are just master slump-busters tonight.

Short side on Biron, with Witt in the box.

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by Dominik on Dec 8, 2009 8:08 PM EST reply actions  

Dom.....

…..Witt bent over BACKWARDS to not make contact – can we PLEASE contact Daly now? This is borderline fraud!

by ogam5 on Dec 8, 2009 8:13 PM EST reply actions  

Heh, be my guest. I’ve given up on the NHL listening to anything that doesn’t come from an influential GM.

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by Dominik on Dec 8, 2009 8:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Shots are 19-8

It’s as if they want Biron to look bad.

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by Dominik on Dec 8, 2009 8:14 PM EST reply actions  

NHL.COM has chosen this game to blackout...

so I am experiencing this one through the magic of radio.

by BCISLEMAN on Dec 8, 2009 8:14 PM EST reply actions  

No life, no fight.

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by Dominik on Dec 8, 2009 8:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Isles get a mercy powerplay

Can we decline? I’d like to decline.

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by Dominik on Dec 8, 2009 8:18 PM EST reply actions  

Now it’s a 0:43 5-on-3. Delay of game/over the glass.

Gordon calls timeout.

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by Dominik on Dec 8, 2009 8:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Dominik, is Biron going to be worth anything in a trade if DP is ready to come back? Granted, he gets no help out there, but he looks so bad every start. And is Roli too old to start every game?

by The Kernge on Dec 8, 2009 8:20 PM EST reply actions  

With results like this, he certainly won’t be worth “#1” type quality. I do think that’s a real concern, particularly since DP returning isn’t going to squeeze him any playing time to prove differently.

Yeah, Roloson definitely needs a break here and there. He was great down the stretch last year, but the Oilers nearly ran him into the ground.

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by Dominik on Dec 8, 2009 8:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Gotta start somewhere!

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by Dominik on Dec 8, 2009 8:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Tavares scores on the PP

Rebound from Tambellini, who was on the point for the 5-on-3.

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by Dominik on Dec 8, 2009 8:24 PM EST reply actions  

Oh look: Pronger is a douchebag

I’m shocked … SHOCKED to see him hit Tavares from behind, long after the puck is gone. So totally unlike him.

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by Dominik on Dec 8, 2009 8:25 PM EST reply actions  

I love it: And some Flyers fans are booing Tavares as if he dove. You stay classy, Philadelphia.

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by Dominik on Dec 8, 2009 8:26 PM EST up reply actions  

That hit.....

….was almost like an afterthought for the Pronger…..

by ogam5 on Dec 8, 2009 8:26 PM EST reply actions  

Standard operating procedure. Automatic in his body language.

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by Dominik on Dec 8, 2009 8:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Looks even more natural for him in a Philadelphia sweater

by The Kernge on Dec 8, 2009 8:28 PM EST reply actions  

Wow, Laperriere

He lost seven teeth on a shot to the face?! That man jumps on landmines.

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by Dominik on Dec 8, 2009 8:28 PM EST reply actions  

ANOTHER penalty!

Sooner or later the Law of Averages dictates they’ll score again with this plethora o’ penalties…..

by ogam5 on Dec 8, 2009 8:30 PM EST reply actions  

4-2: Yeah, baby

Tavares again, same spot, same instinct. This time Okposo shot and Moulson redirect right to JT’s hands.

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by Dominik on Dec 8, 2009 8:32 PM EST reply actions  

Take THAT, Richards!

JT’s putting on a nice show, isn’t he?

by ogam5 on Dec 8, 2009 8:32 PM EST reply actions  

Oh yeah. Brick saying he got a bit lucky, but it’s like no, no that’s just what JT does. He smells the puck and scores from there. How many of those are we going to see over the next 10 years?

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by Dominik on Dec 8, 2009 8:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Great passing.

Seriously, something is up. Our PK always sucks in front of Biron. I can’t put my finger on it, but it’s starting to feel like more than chance.

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by Dominik on Dec 8, 2009 8:39 PM EST up reply actions  

I've had the feeling.....

…..there’s what might be referred to as a communication gap…..

by ogam5 on Dec 8, 2009 8:40 PM EST reply actions  

"Charging? Left his feet?"

How about Laperriere checked Meyer before he had the puck?

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by Dominik on Dec 8, 2009 8:41 PM EST reply actions  

End of 2nd: 5-2

I guess I feel a little better than I did 15 minutes ago.

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by Dominik on Dec 8, 2009 8:43 PM EST reply actions  

Yeah.....

…..if we’re still destined to lose this one, there’s something that would take a LOT of the sting off – but I won’t mention it for obvious reasons…..

by ogam5 on Dec 8, 2009 8:45 PM EST reply actions  

If only texting him our requests worked

…like it does with Molson.

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by Dominik on Dec 8, 2009 9:02 PM EST up reply actions  

our last three goals by JT

previous three by Sir Matt of the Golden Molson and our PP definitely NG. Need to address secondary scoring and PP in offseason.

by BCISLEMAN on Dec 8, 2009 8:50 PM EST reply actions  

Oy, 6-2

Ugly, ugly. Gervais pass to Okposo’s feet in our own zone causes a turnover, then Gervais doesn’t do much to stop the 2-on-1 pass.

Holy disappointment, Batman.

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by Dominik on Dec 8, 2009 9:05 PM EST reply actions  

Moulson coming to Tavares's aid v. Hartnell

Thataway. Protect The Franchise.

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by Dominik on Dec 8, 2009 9:18 PM EST reply actions  

That whole exchange was probably the best part of the game…along with Tavares picking up 2 more points of course.

Guess what Crosby, Matt Moulson can score hat tricks too and he costs a lot less.

by metalcoconut on Dec 8, 2009 10:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Attaboy, JT!

LIKED the way JT stood up for Biron against Hartnell….

by ogam5 on Dec 8, 2009 9:19 PM EST reply actions  

I just saw this and I completely agree with you.

Guess what Crosby, Matt Moulson can score hat tricks too and he costs a lot less.

by metalcoconut on Dec 8, 2009 10:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Isles PP blueline

Really trying to give them shorthanded opportunities.

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by Dominik on Dec 8, 2009 9:22 PM EST reply actions  

Ugly, absent, empty, spiritless … better luck tomorrow? Outlook not good.

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by Dominik on Dec 8, 2009 9:33 PM EST up reply actions  

I am hoping that the good Islanders show up tomorrow. Roloson is in net. If Okposo can remember what a goal looks like and anyone on the team can deliver a hit perhaps they can play some hockey.

On a brighter note it was good to see Tavares stick up for Biron when Hartnell crashed him. Good for Tavares. Hopefully he can inspire the team a little.

Guess what Crosby, Matt Moulson can score hat tricks too and he costs a lot less.

by metalcoconut on Dec 8, 2009 9:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Particularly nice to see Tavares pot two after losing a tooth. Composing my Pronger rant now.

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by Dominik on Dec 8, 2009 9:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Speaking of Botta's article on Snow shopping for a D

Maybe he should trade his 1st rounder to St Louis for Pieterangelo. Guy can’t crack the lineup there and we need a young defensemen. Chances are Snow is gonna use his 1st to draft a D anyways.

by Chickendirt on Dec 8, 2009 9:36 PM EST reply actions  

I didn’t even think of that. That does make a lot of sense.

Guess what Crosby, Matt Moulson can score hat tricks too and he costs a lot less.

by metalcoconut on Dec 8, 2009 9:39 PM EST up reply actions  

NO!!!

Have a hard time believing they would part with him this quickly…but even if they would no way should Garth trade away our 1st round pick.

by BCISLEMAN on Dec 8, 2009 9:40 PM EST up reply actions  

My impression of Davidson is they wouldn’t do it, anyway. Maybe during the summer once they knew where the Isles pick is, but they’re pretty firm on him being part of the future, they’re just waiting for him to develop enough to make Murray comfortable using him.

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by Dominik on Dec 8, 2009 9:42 PM EST up reply actions  

St Louis is pretty well stocked with blue liners

They are gonna have to move some for scoring forwards. Much of their offense is aging. My be is that they start moving a few. I think they just made a deal with Columbus recently.

by Chickendirt on Dec 8, 2009 9:46 PM EST up reply actions  

I hope you are right. I it is just a shame that they won’t take a shell shocked goalie in return for a d-man.

Guess what Crosby, Matt Moulson can score hat tricks too and he costs a lot less.

by metalcoconut on Dec 8, 2009 10:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Agreed, they're stocked

But Pietrangelo is part of the plan. Or The Plan. I don’t see them parting with him just to restart the awkward growing pains they’re already having with their current crop of youngsters.

The aging part of their offense isn’t performing.

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by Dominik on Dec 8, 2009 10:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Keenan post-game

He says he would’ve yanked Biron after the 3rd or 4th goal “to change the momentum.” I’d just as soon save Old Man Roloson fresh for tomorrow.

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by Dominik on Dec 8, 2009 9:43 PM EST reply actions  

Keenan was hating on the Caps and Ovechkin throughout his commentary in the 2nd and 3rd…he is a buffoon has been coach but I have to say that I actually agree with him on this one. As soon as the 4th goal was scored I said it is time to change Marty and not because it was all his fault. If the Isles are going to put forth such a lackluster effort then start benching some players in-game. The goalie is just a victim of attrition in that case. However the Isles did need something other than a timeout to get them in that game.

I know App77 won’t like this but it almost seems that if Sutton was in that game the defensive effort may have been a little tighter. The team seemed scared of the Flyers throughout the game. I felt like I was watching a scene from the Deliverance most of the game.

Guess what Crosby, Matt Moulson can score hat tricks too and he costs a lot less.

by metalcoconut on Dec 8, 2009 9:53 PM EST up reply actions  

I remember Keenan once pulled Fuhr during a game w/St Louis and put him back in for the 3rd period.

"So basically, the Stats make no sense whatsoever."

by Mark D on Dec 8, 2009 10:09 PM EST up reply actions  

"once"

Oh my god, he did it TONS of times.

I just mentioned it because it was fun that they dinged him about this tendency.

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by Dominik on Dec 8, 2009 10:10 PM EST up reply actions  

I only remember that one specific instance because that was the year Fuhr started all 82 games, and that was game 60 or so.

"So basically, the Stats make no sense whatsoever."

by Mark D on Dec 8, 2009 10:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh I know. It was just hilarious because he’d yo-yo goalies from Philly to Chicago to STL to okay-I-forget-all-8-of-his-stops-now.

I think Fuhr only made it to 79, by the way.

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by Dominik on Dec 8, 2009 10:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Philly, Chicago, St Louis, NYR, Calgary, Vancouver, Florida. Dam, I’m missing one and thats just from the top of my head.

I think there’s a Luongo quote saying that his style with Goalies in Florida actually helped him improve his game.

"So basically, the Stats make no sense whatsoever."

by Mark D on Dec 8, 2009 10:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Boston.

He defended his (over)use of Kiprusoff in the studio chair tonight. It was typical Keenan doublespeak — which is why I love having him in the league, actually. It’s hilarious to watch him joust with reporters.

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by Dominik on Dec 8, 2009 10:47 PM EST up reply actions  

I’ll never understand how Keenan gets so much more flak then Milbury. At least Keenan has a ring and an understanding of the game.

"So basically, the Stats make no sense whatsoever."

by Mark D on Dec 9, 2009 7:22 AM EST up reply actions  

Agreed, Metalcoconut.....

…..there were times when the Islanders looked uncomfortably like a pee-wee team…..

by ogam5 on Dec 8, 2009 9:56 PM EST reply actions  

Please don’t play this same game against TOR tomorrow! Please for the love of all that is holy please play a better game!

Guess what Crosby, Matt Moulson can score hat tricks too and he costs a lot less.

by metalcoconut on Dec 8, 2009 10:09 PM EST reply actions  

Yeah, if they do this tomorrow, the Leafs will be two points behind the Isles.

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by Dominik on Dec 8, 2009 10:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Well they usually play better with Rollie in net.

I get the feeling more and more that the Isles are missing Weight.

"So basically, the Stats make no sense whatsoever."

by Mark D on Dec 8, 2009 10:16 PM EST up reply actions  

DEFINITELY missing him on the PP, and probably in the intangible “settle down boys” department.

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by Dominik on Dec 8, 2009 10:22 PM EST up reply actions  

If Callahan is available, why not bring him back?

by BCISLEMAN on Dec 9, 2009 5:41 AM EST reply actions  

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