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Russian Intrigue: The Anton Klementyev-Kiril Petrov situation

UPDATE Dec. 7: Chris Botta has uncovered a fountain of information on this topic. Namely: Petrov's agent didn't know about the maneuver (but thinks there's a way -- a different way -- for Petrov to be under an Isles contract in 2010). Botta also drops this juicy bit: "Intrepid Klymentyev agent Paul Theofanous - almost certainly a co-producer in this maneuver - has not returned two phone calls." Go there for the full story (well, as much as is available).

Original post below...

The team has not granted the Russian Hockey Federation’s request for Islander defenseman Anton Klementyev (currently playing with the Sound Tigers) to participate in their pre-camp leading up to the World Junior Championships in January.

"We are looking for cooperation regarding the release of Kirill Petrov from his obligation to Kazan of the KHL," Snow said.

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Anton Klementyev, a 19-year-old, 5th-round sleeper pick in this past summer's draft, has appeared in 10 games with AHL Bridgeport, amassing zero points, five shots on goal, four PIM, and a minus-5. Kiril Petrov, a well-regarded talent whose Russian "signability issues" dropped him to the 3rd round in the 2008 draft, has not lived up to that hype since then and was even assigned this year to a junior squad by his KHL team Kazan Ak-Bar.

Aside from a common NHL team's rights and separate hometowns far to Moscow's east, their common bond should be a chance to play on this year's Russian World Junior Championships entry. But in a cheeky bit of asset management, Islanders GM Garth Snow is for the moment keeping that from happening.

Give Snow two points for creativity.

Star-divide

It's a curious gambit. Given the state of NHL-KHL relations and the relative stakes of these two, it's hard to see how it would work as hoped.

At the moment it's not clear how much Klementyev wants the chance to play for Russia's junior team. It's also not clear how much (if at all) Petrov wants to break his KHL deal, which reportedly has three more seasons including the current one. Individual motivations in these cases are usually a bit shrouded, anyway. But from Snow's angle, it probably doesn't hurt to raise the issue and gauge the response. (Not surprisingly, Snow is not inclined to say more than the above statement about the issue.)

If Petrov will ever become an NHL player, it will have to be as a dangerous scorer. If that's ever going to happen, the Islanders surely will want a crack at his development before 2012. But would the quite-political KHL care to bend on a pro contract -- even for a demoted player -- just for the sake of having a non-heralded, non-KHL defenseman on their junior team? Surely not without a nice payment, which might offend Uncle Gary's sensibilities.

For the Islanders' handling of Klementyev: Does it make sense to use him as a pawn like this, potentially depriving him of a shot at the whole patriotic rah-rah national team experience? (Alternatively, maybe he's just digging life in Bridgeport so much he'd rather not break away...). But if we're comparing ceilings, certainly a happy Petrov in Islanders blue is a greater prize than a happy Klementyev.

There'll be more to come on this one. With all the screwy intercontinental hockey politics, it just might get fun to watch.

Then again, neither controlling party is exactly known for it's love of freedom of information. In two weeks we might just get some canned statement from either side telling us nothing more than, "We enjoyed our discussions and have reached further understanding, but there is no change to report." ... while the real story might reside in the records of some Swiss bank account.

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Thought he had a bit of a physical side to his game as well. In any event, it seems like a worthwhile gambit to me. If it doesn’t work, Garth hasn’t lost anything. If it does, he has a potential quality second line forward. And I wouldn’t write AK-22 (should have given him #47 just for fun) just yet. Have a feeling about him.

by BCISLEMAN on Dec 6, 2009 3:07 AM EST reply actions  

Alright, I understand the Isles want to get Petrov over here and control the development of a very talented young player, but is this really the right way to go about bringing him over here?
The WJC could be a very rewarding and developmentally beneficial experience for Klementyev, even if it is just practicing against his peers on the Russian team. What if he really wants to go? How does Snow justify this decision to him? This isn’t Josh Bailey last year… I just don’t agree with this decision, there is just too much Klementyev can gain that he will be denied because of politics.
Do you really think the Russians would release a player from the final two and a half years of his KHL contract for two weeks of Klementyev?

by David Hanssen on Dec 6, 2009 1:25 PM EST reply actions  

Very Interesting

I dont see the harm in trying this at all. Of course the chances of them giving in to Garth Snow are IMO kinda slim, but Garth is making what I believe to be a positive statement. He is showing faith in Kirill as an NHL player and for a kid that was demoted (IMO helping stack their WJC team was a factor in that) this could be a good way to let him know that he is wanted and needed in the NHL.

One thing- Knowing how notoriously tight lipped Garth is, I really dont think that Garth says a word about this unless there is at least something to it.

I also dont think he says anything like this whatsoever unless he has a good idea where Petrovs head is. I remember Petrov specifically said that he wanted to come to Isles camp and do things with the Isles, but the Russians keep not letting him. Maybe Petrov is annoyed with that? I also think that Garth knows where Klementyevs head is as well.

Let Us Go, Islanders!
(Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)

by TheMetalChick on Dec 6, 2009 1:56 PM EST reply actions  

Good Points

I agree Snow wouldn’t be going public this unless he had good reasons, but it just doesn’t seem like this is the right time for this fight. Snow has shown in the past that he believes his farm system is the best place for player development (See Okposo, Kyle), but in this case I think he’s wrong.

But hey, you know what I hope I’m proven wrong here.

by David Hanssen on Dec 6, 2009 2:20 PM EST up reply actions  

YEAH, I suspect that...

this comment is part of a larger ongoing negotiation that we are not privy to. I am hopeful that Petrov may wind up here in the end. The KHL may feel that he isn’t that big a deal with the dropoff and performance and may see this as an easy way to build goodwill.

by BCISLEMAN on Dec 6, 2009 3:06 PM EST reply actions  

A development question

Since we’re talking about Klementyev, do you think Bridgeport is the best place for him right now or should he be sent to the CHL?

Botta noted yesterday he seemed over matched in the short time he saw him, in the handful of Sound Tigers games I’ve been to this year and he either hasn’t played due to the visa issues or didn’t get much time on ice. I know Snow prefers guys stay in the organization but at 19 should he be learning with the big boys or getting more ice time with those his age?

I have an ego larger then Mikko Koskinen

by David Hanssen on Dec 6, 2009 5:54 PM EST reply actions  

It’s a good question. So hard to hazard a guess when I haven’t seen him and there’s not a whole lot known about his game. The CHL would sound ideal, but I don’t know if it would have been an easy sell for him.

At least one source said he was again going to have trouble making Lokomotiv’s lineup in Russia. But since he had at least made it to the KHL, with guys like these the choice may be between staying for a decent rate over in the KHL and playing for a decent rate in the AHL. In other words: “Move to a new country and play at a lower level for minimal compensation? Gee, no thanks.”

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by Dominik on Dec 6, 2009 6:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Update

I updated this post with a link to Botta’s story and some explanation at the top. It’s interesting that he thinks Klementyev’s agent is a “co-producer” in this. If that’s the case, it certainly makes it look better in terms of how the Isles are treating Klementyev.

Klementyev was always a bit of a mystery, so I can think of a few motives where he would potentially be on board with this. For all we know, it could be more about Klementyev than it is about Petrov.

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by Dominik on Dec 7, 2009 3:13 PM EST reply actions  

I am hoping that they have a plan...

to bring KP here. Then they use their first rounder for a defenseman like Gudbranson and move their second rounder up to get Nino and they have a second line.

by BCISLEMAN on Dec 7, 2009 4:50 PM EST up reply actions  

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