Flyers 2, Islanders 1: Biron's loveless Long Island marriage continues
A couple of ugly goals allowed, one heli-ugly final minute, zero goal support for Martin Biron, and several (typical) uncalled Chris Pronger infractions: Just another Islanders loss to the Flyers.
The Islanders have now scored 13 5-on-5 goals for Biron in his 15 starts and two mop-up duty appearances. That's not loveless -- that's just plain malice.
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The first Flyers goal: Understandably, I don't want Biron to be beat short-side like that. But it was a goal-scorer's cookie-jar placement by Danny Briere. Far worse: Andy Sutton completely took himself out of the play to make a booming hit, leaving Briere open to walk in alone. Far, far, far worse: Sutton's hit attempt completely missed, he ended up colliding with (unintended target) Scott Hartnell, and falling on his ass [first video highlight after the jump]. That is the flip-side of the bargain you get with Sutton; given that outcome, I'd prefer he stick to hit attempts along the boards.
The second Flyers goal: Understandably, I don't want Biron to be beat short-side like that. But it was an inside-the-post shot on another two-on-one, made possible by Jack Hillen's ugly whiff in the Flyers zone. Biron's in a tough spot because of his lack of work; but in his limited appearances I continue to be struck by the short-side goals and by his tendency to end up on his butt in the crease.
Regardless, once again: One goal for your goalie doesn't cut it.
It will be interesting to see how this evolves in the next two months. I've watched too much NHL hockey to believe nothing will change (Biron's goal support will swing the other way, or injury will conspire to give Biron more time, or even DiPietro will return and stir things up.). But how it mutates is anyone's guess.
Video Clips
More Pronger Rant (sorry)
It's funny, you watch Pronger more and more -- and god knows I saw too much of him as a Blue -- and you realize he is as cheap and spineless as Sean Avery, except he fights even less and gets the massive benefit-of-the-doubt that is afforded likely Hall of Fame players. As we touched on briefly during the game thread, it's like they use "old NHL" officiating with him, where you let him get three, four free whacks/spears/high-sticks before they say, "Really, this time I'm gonna call something if you don't stop." What's unexplained is how he's rarely held accountable on the ice, despite what should be a reputation for the dirty given the times he's received a suspension from the random Campbell Wheel of Justice when he does something that makes news.
I said this summer I'd hate him more now that he's in the Patrick Atlantic Division. That's come true in spades.
Even when I "rooted" for him as a Blue, it always felt dirty -- like defending your abusive uncle who drinks too much because he gave you beer and hockey tickets. Now that he's been to three more NHL teams, I assume this is how many of his new teams' fans feel or felt, but I can't be sure. When he was a Blue -- and this is in the "old" NHL, remember -- I just recall constantly cringing and remarking, "Wow, they let him get away with that?" Except every fifth or sixth time they'd call him, and fans would get on him for taking another undisciplined penalty, and he'd look at the ref in feigned shock. Then I'd wonder if the referees made him what he is precisely because they called it so randomly, giving him this sense of entitlement. Who knows.
Pronger is outstanding with the puck, with the breakout, and with positional defense. But the way he plays in the trenches is almost indefensible in the post-lockout NHL -- except that he largely gets away with it. Therefore it is effective. Tonight I'm thinking of his multiple (uncalled) crosschecks to the neck and head from period one to period three, and I'm searching my brain for a significant player who did similar things with such regularity without having to fight to back it up. If you can think of any, do let me know (I know they were out there, I just can't recall famous ones at the moment -- oh wait: Claude Lemieux! Nice company there. As with Pronger, I know "Turtle" Lemieux had his legion of worshipers, but I found his cheapshot-without-consequence nature patently disgusting. So a few tears shed over winning the Cup didn't help me see his humanity. It's the Cup: Even an engineer would cry like a baby.)
Ah well. This rant is tired, but clearly I still have some Pronger demons to get off my chest. While I'm at it, Briere has bugged me ever since his Phoenix days, though for different reasons.
Errata
- Speaking of shady characters, Daniel Carcillo was typical Carcillo, trying to justify his presence. Then Jon Sim got a dive on Carcillo's roughing penalty. Huh.
- Speaking of Sim: He converted on a breakaway. That's right: He converted on a breakaway! Was the key that he had zero time to think, and thus had to go on instinct? Don't know, but he was a good contributor even beyond the goal.
- Speaking of contributors: John Tavares' slump, briefly interrupted by the tap-in goal against Toronto, continues. It's fair to call out how he's been quiet lately. It's also fair to note that a lull during his first NHL season, at age 19, was inevitable. I'm not sure what it is we're witnessing right now -- rookie fatigue/injury/burden of carrying a team at this age -- but it goes into the data bank for further theorizing later on.
On Size, or Lack Thereof
In his post-game presser, Scott Gordon defended Biron's record, noting he's played against teams the Isles don't offensively match up well with. He also repeated that the Flyers are a tough match because of their size:
"That's just something we've got to try to find an answer for."
I don't doubt this -- although clearly several teams have found an answer for the Flyers this year -- and my lord I don't disagree that the Isles need more size. I just wonder how Garth Snow sees this and what his long-term plan is to address it. As noted often this season, pending UFA Andy Sutton represents a chunk of what little physical presence the Islanders have. As noted earlier in this post, Sutton is a double-edged sword. What do do with him this spring -- and how to replace or supplement him this summer -- represents some interesting decisions for Snow.
Bottom Line
So this was a largely even-strength game, with even shots throughout, that the Islanders lost thanks to a few 2-on-1s created by mistakes of different forms (a bad hit and a bad pinch). The final minute, when the Isles couldn't get Biron pulled and even drew boos from the home crowd, was embarrassing but also I think a sign of the Flyers playing well.
Once again, Biron was hung out to dry offensively. Once again, the Islanders' December homestand -- touted beforehand by the players themselves as a chance to net significant points -- is slipping away. The NHL's version of quasi-.500 -- they've now 37 points in 40 games -- is likewise drifting. That's good for 13th in the conference right now and 26th overall. But they remain more organized and more entertaining (overall) than last year at this time. All part of the process, along with almost nightly ups and downs.
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I have NEVER thought that pronger deserved to play in the NHL, of course, the first time I saw him play he took a 100’ run at Roenick, speared Chelios into leaving the game, and a two handed slash at the back of Belfours legs. All that without drawing a penalty.
As far as defending Birons record… if there was offense during the game, then nobody would have to play defence during the post game. I am happier with the team this year than I was last year, and I hope to be even happier next year. I don’t demand “the cup” from my teams, I just want to see improvement.
Oh yeah, and I want to see pronger take a run at somebody, miss and hit a ref. Maybe then they would think about calling him on some of his “specialty plays.”
SHOOOOOOOT!!!! Anon
by burpchelischili on Dec 28, 2009 6:47 AM EST reply actions
he took a 100’ run at Roenick, speared Chelios into leaving the game, and a two handed slash at the back of Belfours legs.
I can only assume all three of them deserved it. :)
Honestly, I think he’s a fantastic player. It’s ironic that in Hartford (and early in St. Louis) the challenge was getting him to play meaner. But when I see a guy with that size, I’m expecting that to translate to, you know, checking people, rather than to extending the range of his stick as a weapon on others’ body parts. Then again, one of the few times he tried to lay someone out open-ice, he shredded his own knee trying to check Steve Yzerman. Guess he sticks to what he’s good at.
Lighthouse Hockey: Eyes on Tavares, mug full of Moulson.
Guess he sticks to what he’s good at.
Yeah, sticks.
Seriously, it really annoys me to see someone who has an unfair amount of talent take the the lazy way and try to hurt someone instead of working for it.
SHOOOOOOOT!!!! Anon
by burpchelischili on Dec 28, 2009 2:31 PM EST up reply actions
Position in standings
Ah, reality sets in. I too feel heavey hearted as it begins to become apparent this squad indeed doesn’t have the talent to compete this year. But two thumbs up anyway. In October, at the end of the terrible start, I pleaded for the team to string togeather a few wins to give us hope, and they answered in spades. As all of us knew then, this team needs more draft infused talent. So with three months of the season day-dreamed away, we can now get down to our true goals for this year- optimizing current talent development and postitioning ourselves for the additon of more. ( how can we get this Hall kid? we’re not bad enough to finish last! ).
Yeah, that is my mindset exactly. It’s probably good for everybody that they’re close enough to be shooting for something. It’s also good the club ultimately realizes this roster isn’t good/developed enough for that.
Lighthouse Hockey: Eyes on Tavares, mug full of Moulson.
This is ironic but we have quite a few talented d-men coming up right now but they just lack size at the moment. Speaking of which Donovan scored a goal in the first 2 games of the WJC’s. Today he attempts to continue that streak. I have not seen the results of the other 5? players we have in the tournament. However Canada pasted Latvia and Harmonic posted 1-1-2 in that one. Strangely DeHaan did not show up on the score sheets. I’m just about to check on the Russians…
Sooner or later someone is going to have to tell the truth about the Lighthouse Project and when they do I will probably be really old if not dead.
OOOO Kirill with 1-2-3 in the first game. Perhaps he is excited about defecting Russia. :)
Sooner or later someone is going to have to tell the truth about the Lighthouse Project and when they do I will probably be really old if not dead.
by metalcoconut on Dec 28, 2009 11:22 AM EST up reply actions
Those two goals were the result of inexcusable breakdowns by the Islanders “defense.” I was at the game at the Garden the other night and I remember saying to my father: “Holy hell, Hillen is horrendous.” I think I’m adding him to my hate list.
Nice to see Schremp getting some ice time. He has held his own defensively and does some creative things with the puck. He’s just got to get on the scoreboard now.
Dom
Also, I like the roster “widget” on the right of the page. Any way that we can get goals/assists/points in there as well? That would be more interesting to me than DOB/height/weight.
You mean you aren't burning to know each player's birthday and alleged weight?
Sadly, there isn’t a right-margin stats widget for some reason, even though those stats are available at the top of the page (orange header bar, final link on the right: “Stats”). It all comes from the same data feed, so I’d think it’s possible. I’ll put a request in.
Lighthouse Hockey: Eyes on Tavares, mug full of Moulson.
ARGH!
I just noticed that only 12 of them were born before I graduated!
SHOOOOOOOT!!!! Anon
by burpchelischili on Dec 28, 2009 2:24 PM EST up reply actions
Whoops
make that thirteen, but Still
SHOOOOOOOT!!!! Anon
by burpchelischili on Dec 28, 2009 2:26 PM EST up reply actions
Agreed, especially since they arent always right… most sites keep guys at the same H/W stats year after year.
Let Us Go, Islanders!
(Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)
by TheMetalChick on Dec 29, 2009 6:28 PM EST up reply actions
Great Simile
You compared Pronger to an abusive uncle that drinks too much… and it totally worked!!
Thank you
I’m here all week … don’t forget to tip your waitresses.
Lighthouse Hockey: Eyes on Tavares, mug full of Moulson.

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