Islanders-Canadiens [snowy game thread]
by Dominik on Dec 19, 2009 6:45 PM EST
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Montreal Canadiens (15-18-3, 4th/NE) at New York Islanders (13-15-7, 4th/Atl)
7 p.m. | Nassau [gloriously unsponsored] Veterans Mem. Coliseum | MSG+, radio
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Martin Biron is in. Bruno Gervais just might be is back. Lots and lots of snow already hitting. (What the hey, it's only a blizzard, right? By the way, where I am: zilch. Just grey skies and dry ground.)
If you're in the Eastern blizzard zone or heading to the game, be careful out there. But now you have to represent, given that the Habs fan invasion is in full effect. I like to think of it as Habs fans paying Alexei Yashin's buyout: It's lose-win for everybody.
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A couple of interesting tweets from Katie Strang:
“Montreal Canadiens fans holding court…definitely won’t seem like a home game tonight for Isles. Fans stayin off roads in blizzard” -11 minutes ago from web
“The last time the Islanders played in blizzard conditions was December 6, 2003 against Chicago Blackhawks. Turnstile count was 3,863.” -about 8 hours ago from web
Let Us Go, Islanders!
(Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)
Yikes
Hope the concession stands are stocked with poutine.
Saw Erick dug up the boxscore to that last blizzard game.
Lighthouse Hockey: Eyes on Tavares, mug full of Moulson.
Is the 100th anniversary celebration finally over?
Mercy, mercy, no more ugly Habs jerseys.
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Marc-Andre Bergeron
Reported on HNIC as on the fourth line. With their two goons. I guess he won’t see much beyond the powerplay.
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Minnesota equipment story
So we learn:
- Tavares has six pairs of skates, and the same shoulder pads he’s had since he was 14.
- Biron has the same skates he’s had for 12 years.
Lighthouse Hockey: Eyes on Tavares, mug full of Moulson.
1-0 Habs on the PP
Damn. Through Biron’s legs, and Markov pokes it home.
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I sure don’t have the same hope the Isles can steal a game as I do when Roloson is in. But Biron’s history is a little streaky — I’m hoping we get one of his hot streaks while he’s in an Isles uni.
Lighthouse Hockey: Eyes on Tavares, mug full of Moulson.
Rough one for MacDonald
Giveaway creates a 2-on-1, getting back he takes a penalty.
Lighthouse Hockey: Eyes on Tavares, mug full of Moulson.
His hands certainly aren’t up to the standards of his speed. The story of so many penalty killers.
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Park and Thompson
Shorthanded, joining the parade of burying it into Halak’s body.
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Georges Laraque
Trying desperately to get Andy Sutton to help justify Laraque’s 5-minute place in the lineup.
Oh, one-trick enforcers, you poor worthless lot, you.
Lighthouse Hockey: Eyes on Tavares, mug full of Moulson.
Bailey
Nasty toe drag hopefully his confidence is getting higher. I’d like to see him do that more
Yes, nice move
It’s going to be a process with him.
They still have to get some better shots on Halak. Everything’s hitting his core.
Lighthouse Hockey: Eyes on Tavares, mug full of Moulson.
It would have been nicer if he would have not aimed for the goalies torso. However the move was nice.
What do you call a rivalry without a rival?
by metalcoconut on Dec 19, 2009 7:53 PM EST up reply actions
at the game
Its at least two thirds canadian fans and my section loudville, is the only concentrated group of isle fans. Much fun chanting. My favorite so far is “we speak english”. Would be more fun if we weren’t losing
NittanyWhiteOut.com. Arguably the second best Penn State blog I know of.
by PSUdevon on Dec 19, 2009 8:03 PM EST via mobile reply actions
“we speak english"
Nice. Shout ’em down!
The derisive goalie-name chant in that accent never has the same effect.
Lighthouse Hockey: Eyes on Tavares, mug full of Moulson.
Well, looks like teams have Gordon's "overspeed" figured out and have adjusted to it
Wonder if he knows that yet?
Really?
They’re outshooting them, just not shooting well. I’m not seeing at all where this period is on Gordon. The Habs’ best chances were on the PP or on turnovers that happened in the defensive zone.
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I'm looking over the past few games
We’re getting shots but many of them are predictable and poorly located. Positionally, in front of the net, even if they compete a slot pass, the goalies really aren’t over shifting laterally. As a matter of fact, if you watch Halak, they are coming our and challenging.
The shots, as noted are going into the bread basket.
Gordon needs to work on the guy in the slot breaking towards the far side of the net a little more to drop the goalie and get more lateral movement.
I agree with all that — I just don’t see it as teams figuring Gordon out. I mean everyone’s system is fairly similar, and everyone’s is out there for all to see. Teams adjust to their own flaws and the other teams’ strengths/tendencies each game.
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Last Snow game v. Chicago
Hurts a bit to see how the Hawks are great now and the Isles not. But then the Hawks were something awful for 10 years straight, while the Isles were bubble hunting in the years between then and now.
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Unless something miraculoius happens with McDonald and Hillen we may be as bad for just as long
we haven’t even really gotten to the tryout period on the NHL level with Hamonic and deHaan.
I even think it’s gonna take maybe two more years with Bailey before he gets his game down.
We may be competitive in most of our games during that time. The more I look over Bridgeport, who’s here and our prospect pool, the more I’m beginning to think this is gonna be a really long haul. Our situation in goal (the most important position I don’t care if you are building or competing) is far from setteled.
Long haul
Yeah, I would think so. Nobody’s rebuilt overnight. Even Pittsburgh with those two gift-wrapped prizes of Malkin and Crosby falling in their lap, took half a decade.
I expect slow, steady progress though, all location/budget/ownership questions aside.
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You have to look at the half full side
we have had pleasant surprises in Moulson and in MacDonald and Hillen. Opposing announcers rave about Hillen. Going to the playoffs was always a long shot, but we have one great top line and have made a couple of solid additions to the blueline. Joensuu and Comeau also look like they are coming around. This year was always about seeing what we have and what we need. The good news is that we don’t need everything. We are 1-2 players away on offense and, after our blue chip blueliners are brought up, 1-2 away on defense as well. Garth will know what he needs to do in the draft and through trade this summer.
Serious Question
Why does Gordon keep breaking up the Tavares, Moulson, Okposo Line? They were playing great early in the year and if he keeps that line together it could become one of the better lines in the league in the future
I can only guess it has to do with the desire to get scoring beyond one line. Since no one else is scoring consistently, I assume the hope is to get Okposo to spark a second line, or at minimum make a second line dangerous.
The perils of lacking depth.
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true, but let’s be honest Okposo hasn’t really had a scorer’s touch the past few weeks. Putting him on that first line could jump start his scoring
Agreed. I’d be fine with them keeping that line together all year long, unless things got really lopsided. With no real aspirations this season, that’d make it far more entertaining at least.
But I can see why a coach would try something else. He looks at his (thin) roster and thinks “KO ought to be able to create something there.” Meanwhile, JT and Moulson can create things on their own — and actually Comeau’s looked okay there lately, at least using his passing skills and being assertive on the forecheck.
Probably every coach fears becoming an easy-to-beat, one-line team. But I don’t know when enough’s enough and you decide you’re not even a one-line team without that combo together.
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I agree with you… I think it is to the point where Kyle should not be used to spark anyone else, he needs to be sparked himself. Man do I hope Weight comes back soon.
Let Us Go, Islanders!
(Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)
by TheMetalChick on Dec 19, 2009 11:45 PM EST up reply actions
Wow, yeah
That was epic. He heard something that wasn’t there? I thought he was pulling it back to shoot — and then that!
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Yikes
2-0, Markov again, and Thompson’s shot-blocking luck has run out. Shit.
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This really just has not been our month
This keeps up we are headed for another lottery pick.
Dom? What was it you were saying about going 11-1 in December again? I think we are on pace for 9-2 or something like that.
:( Every year I insist to myself that this is not going to happen again, and every year it punches me in the face.
Let Us Go, Islanders!
(Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)
by TheMetalChick on Dec 19, 2009 11:46 PM EST up reply actions
I take full blame
(or credit, if it nets us a juicy pick)
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Great Honor for the Isles
Toronto is playing and they are not Game 1 on HNiC. We are! Folks, this just does not happen!!!
The PK
Much worse lately. Any theories?
This stuff ebbs and flows? It’s a lot to do with luck and bounces anyway? The same grinders who do well get a little tired, or complacent, or not quite as my-job’s-on-the-line as they are when the season starts? Teams adjusting? Thompson can’t block everything?
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Nice crosschaeck to Shremp's face
No call of course.
But it was a way from the puck so they — oh wait, no it wasn’t. It was right in front of their damned eyes.
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Halak on Moulson
Wow. That was a helluva save. Nice pass by JT.
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Hot Stove next
Milbury TV! Oh what genius will he provide us with for this holiday season?
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Got that covered
“I really don’t think Ovechkin makes Washington a viable cup contender. He’s a whiny gutless puke. If I were in charge I’d package him to Montreal for Obyrne and Kostystin.
has to have a DP comment
after all he is the reason we have DP instead of Roberto and Heatley/Gaborik
MacLean
We know there’s a problem, it’s just the people who want to solve the problem are making it more dangerous.
WTF is he talking about?! There’s nothing dangerous about studying an issue! Collecting data! Exploring alternatives! These guys are hurting their own cause because they don’t even know what they’re arguing about. What a disgrace.
Proof, once again, that serious issues probably shouldn’t be discussed by TV personalities in 60-second segments.
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nobody asks Neanderthal Idiot about DP
but apparently Charlie has had enough and he is going to sell the Islanders…this according to “rumblings”
Maybe Tavares goes all out and digs us out of this one
We’re due for some heroics in this long losing month.
We got another PP?
Four minutes? How did that happen?!
JT, it’s your turn.
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Attendance: 7,842
Not sure how to say that number in French.
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This may not go down as a blowout
but I gotta say probably one of the worst losses of the season if this keeps up.
It’s freaking Halak!!!!
and last time it was Henrik
a letter “H” thing? Gotta find ways to beat the good ones if you are going to be a contender.
I’m a Halak fan, honestly. I’ve seen him do this to plenty of teams, although he hasn’t been challenged much.
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Joensuu
I liked Joensuu there. I could handle him adding that element to his game, sticking up for teammates, using his size to lay some people out.
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I hope all of them get run over by snowplows.
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This team finishes in the lottery again
I’m sorry but they should seriously consider firing Gordon. There’s no excuse for it two years in a row.
With this roster, that’s plenty of excuse in my book.
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And Gervais’ pedestrian shot makes it an even 40.
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These Habs fans standing up and waving their frickin arms every goddamn time the puck comes near them is SO DAMN ANNOYING. Nobody cares about seeing the outline of your stupid arms!
I am pissed. What the hell? Biron had a good game, I dont care what anyone says to the contrary. And what happens? We are shut out! WTF?
Let Us Go, Islanders!
(Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)
They’re pretty obnoxious. Sort of looking forward to the day when the 3,000 come in and the Isles hammer them and Coliseum fans let ’em have it. Surely it will happen one of these days…
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I’d say that’s on the mark.
Le pew, le pew, this game wreaked of B.O.
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UGHHHHHHHHHHHH
Every frickin loss- EVERY LOSS- there are these annoying whiners practically everywhere online who go berserk turning every single situation into as big of a mess as possible. There are people complining about the ownership and pointing to the attendance tonight!!! WTF- like if someone else owned the team then a blizzard would not have hit? Give me a BREAK! I love this team and there are many Isles fans whose opinions I value (many of them here, actually) but unfortunately some Isles fans are such whining drama queens. :(
Let Us Go, Islanders!
(Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)
and the economic situation isn't good either BUT
attendance has been bad all year, not just tonight. Don’t think it was even this bad last year. if Wang either resolved his differences with the ToH or made some noise moving ahead with a deal with Queens, it might help. Islanders going on a winning streak would as well.
Are time will come
Thing most people even hockey people dont realize
- everyone still thinks Milbury is making decisions for the Islanders
keep bringing up the Depietro contract to me it seems Wang was ahead of his time this seems to be the norm now and every pro hockey players dream
- when has Wang ever been cheap, he tried Milbury’s way and got burnt, if it wasnt dor DP getting hurt he unleashed getting Smyth and Zhitnik for play-off run and offered Smyth good money. The following yr he grabbed any FA available and paid them. -
- the way I look at it is both Wang and Snow thought lets step back look at what we have to work with what we can obtain with stockpile in 08 draft picks and getting a franchise player in 09 I think we know have the talenbt its just developing it
-Getting a new facility wouldnt hur both in A)attracting FA and B) atractting fans this is all in the works only us few who can read really know whats going on with the direction the team is heading in, let alone we are also in an oppturnistic finacial situation when considering the salary cap (17mill to spend) where other teams are in for a real shock especially if cap goes down
Being patient is easier than done within a few yrs we will have developed are prospects grabbed a few FA’s and built a new building weather its in Long Island maybe another question thos three things will b gurenteed
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