Islanders Gameday: Let's play two, Battle of NY style
by Dominik on Dec 17, 2009 12:02 PM EST
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PrintUpdate: One of the lineup moves for the defeated is scratching overpaid, underperforming Wade Redden, and my god does his reaction tell you everything you need to know about how absolutely out of touch he is about his performance as a Ranger:
"Redden was not shy in expressing his opinion that he was being made a scapegoat for the Blueshirts’ miserable string of games that included Wednesday’s 2-1 Garden defeat to the Islanders.
“I’m not pleased to be singled out,” said Redden, scratched for what is believed the first time in his 13-year NHL career. “We’re going through struggles as a team and the fact that I’m sitting out, I’m not real happy."
The sorry thing about tonight's tail end of back-to-backs is the Islanders have (real, but not justified) reason to relax after taking the opener, while the Rangers have absolutely no excuse if they don't come out like it's a Game 7. The Rangers are in a tailspin, and nothing would cap off "rock bottom" of such a spin like being meekly swept by the Islanders.
If the Smurfs don't come out like a bat out of hell (Query: Who, actually, has seen a bat fly out of hell to know that it is worthy of the phrase?), they are essentially conceding that there's no hope for them until someone blows up the roster or fires the decision-makers. (Heh.) That would be a justified concession, actually, but it's not one that professional competitive players typically like to make, regardless of what the Garden fans tell them.
Lots of unknowns as of this mid-day posting: Does Martin Biron get his turn? Will the Rangers' biggest change be the one they can least afford -- debuting Chad Johnson in place of Henrik Lundqvist, the one part of their team who isn't broken? [Update: No. Lundqvist goes back in, while Redden and Kotalik sit.]
Suffice it to say, despite on-ice evidence to the contrary the meme that only one team considers this a rivalry is, well, not backed up by evidence. Quoth Marc Staal:
"The Islanders are a huge rival for us," defenseman Mark Staal said. "For us to come out the way we did in the first period was embarrassing."
Agreed.
This pre-game is somewhat formulaic -- all too rare that we have back-to-backs with the same team. So discuss what you will here, or in last night's recap, or in the post-game presser post of Tortorella's (rather calm) tirade. And we'll see you around the bend.
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Query: Who, actually, has seen a bat fly out of hell to know that it is worthy of the phrase?
Aristophanes is the man you can thank for that phrase…(excerpt from The Birds)
Near by the land of the Sciapodes there is a marsh, from the borders whereof the unwashed Socrates evokes the souls of men. Pisander came one day to see his soul, which he had left there when still alive. He offered a little victim, a camel, slit his throat and, following the example of Odysseus, stepped one pace backwards. Then that bat of a Chaerephon came up from hell to drink the camel’s blood.
(my dad’s a big meat loaf fan and i looked it up for him once before so i knew where to get the reference… )
why isn't #16 hanging in the rafters?
Wishes do come true
Thank you, bob. Internet for the win.
I’m gonna go all the way tonight…
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Biggest Question
Can the Islanders finally play back to back nights and not look horrible one of the nights?
"So basically, the Stats make no sense whatsoever."
if we forecheck like last night we should be fine, their top 2 Dmen and the gaborik line played a ton of minutes and they could wear down with fatigue by the 3rd tonight if we keep the pace up
why isn't #16 hanging in the rafters?
Perhaps Sutton makes Gaboric the newest guest in Sutton’s Section?
The Whole Foods grocery store (headquarters in Austin, TX) near me has announced that they have an outdoor rink on top of their building. I went to see it and got a good laugh...but it is an outdoor patch of ice on top of a building in Austin, TX. I guess I should be impressed.
by metalcoconut on Dec 17, 2009 3:11 PM EST up reply actions
Well he kindly introduced him right there…
What do you call a rivalry without a rival?
by metalcoconut on Dec 17, 2009 7:16 PM EST up reply actions
Yes! I would’ve liked a little more boom, but I’ll take it.
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I want to see Biron pick himself up but for all that is right and holy please leave Rollie in net tonight. They almost couldn’t figure him out last night, with help from the 28 blocked shots, so why change that?
The Whole Foods grocery store (headquarters in Austin, TX) near me has announced that they have an outdoor rink on top of their building. I went to see it and got a good laugh...but it is an outdoor patch of ice on top of a building in Austin, TX. I guess I should be impressed.
Yeah, I have to say I’d do the same. Generally I’m a fan of avoiding back-to-backs on the goalie, but this is a special case.
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rollie the goalie
i dont care that birons stats are comparable to rollo,the only stat that counts are wins/points. Call it luck or whatever,its gotta be Rollo tonight. Dont worry about Birons ego-we are trading him anyways
by Lakewood Islander on Dec 17, 2009 4:41 PM EST via mobile reply actions
status?
is queen henrietta in goal?
by Lakewood Islander on Dec 17, 2009 5:37 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Yes. Haven’t heard about the opposite end yet.
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"I’m not pleased to be singled out," said Redden, scratched for what is believed the first time in his 13-year NHL career. "We’re going through struggles as a team and the fact that I’m sitting out, I’m not real happy."
I believe that this is the most moxie he has shown since…well…since I can ever remember.
What do you call a rivalry without a rival?
Can we start calling him the Six-Million Dollar Scratch Man? Oh that would be fun. Isn’t he the one that Milbury stopped practice for and then went out to say “Welcome to the NHL!” That is just too funny.
What do you call a rivalry without a rival?
by metalcoconut on Dec 17, 2009 5:56 PM EST up reply actions
He’s grown up so much!
Seriously, what kind of bubble is he in? Has there been a moment since the ink dried that anyone argued he was living up to his contract?
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That stuff is absolute gold. I love it. He’s getting paid 6 mill so it’s hard to feel sorry for him in the first place, but the complete lack of self-awareness seals it. And for the cherry on top you know every half-wit Rags fan thinks he’s qualified to be a GM now (and I guess they can’t be less qualified than the guy they have now). That’s just going to increase the chirping.
I may be joining you for a bit tonight, depends on the domestic situation. Good luck, I love seeing the Rags get demoralized. Just one favor, for the sake of my fantasy team don’t kill Dubinksy’s plus/minus and maybe even let him get a point or two.
In an ideal world all ten fingers would be on my left hand so my right hand could just be a fist for punching.
You didn’t just ask that in a Ranger game did you?
What do you call a rivalry without a rival?
by metalcoconut on Dec 17, 2009 7:20 PM EST up reply actions
This is why I just can’t do fantasy. Too many requests that cannot compute.
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goal song
havent heard what the new goal song is.could someone let me know? i kinda liked burn it to the ground
by Lakewood Islander on Dec 17, 2009 6:12 PM EST via mobile reply actions
bro hymn by pennwise
BRING BACK THE HEY SONG
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I don't think of pedophilia when I hear it.
Only a sick basard would.
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Pederast or no pederast, that song never moved me anyway.
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I am DANGEROUSLY pumped for this game
If we win, I’ll have so much ammunition to throw at my Rag fan friends.
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Islanders playing GREAT hockey
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A solid start, for sure. Lundqvist has saved them again, so far.
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I think today it is. Apparently once you take your arm off your stick and put it on him, you’re risking it.
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Huh
Roloson doing some pirhouettes in the crease on that goal. Guess he lost where it went.
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That goal is ussually disallowed
Prospal was in the net. My how things have changed.
do we have challenges in the nhl?
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Not really
You just give the ref a lot of shit and he’ll choose to review just to shut you up.
They can’t overturn anything there with a review though. Can’t declare interference on a replay.
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Rob Schremp is killing us
2 gimme goals he’s missed.
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FINALLY!!!!
Rangers called for too many men. It’s been years my brothers and they get away with that all the time.
Rangers too many men
Same old same old…but they actually called it this time!
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What is Prospal saying to the refs? We are the Rangers and we don’t get called for too many men on the ice!
What do you call a rivalry without a rival?
Prospal should be happy that last goal didn't go up for review
He was in the net before that puck crossed the line.
agreed.
What do you call a rivalry without a rival?
by metalcoconut on Dec 17, 2009 7:34 PM EST up reply actions
Callahan should know
if he goes there will be trouble, but if he stays it will be double
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I hate the one-pieces and I hate shootouts, but Howie rants about them every night like an old man.
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Awful job, Rollie
the rest of the team is doing their job, and you’re sucking a giant dick.
Get Biron in there.
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Mmmkay, well this is bad
Two goals on four shots?
Lundqvist has held the fort, and we’re missing the big save on the other end.
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Are you kidding me?
That’s not a trip. Fuck you, refs.
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This is one of those games where Gordon has to work the ref
and he’s not doing that.
Ah, fuck
We’re outplaying them by a mile, and Rollie’s let in 2 cheap ones while Schremp has whiffed on 2 gimmes. God damn it.
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Rangers are controling the flow though
The Islanders offense is based on too much reaction. Much of that is cause of the state of our D. Not many guys back there can lay up and decent outlet pass without icing the puck or putting it on a defenders stick.
disgusting!
last 5 minutes of the period was some of the laziest hockey i ever saw. cant get a decent clear
by Lakewood Islander on Dec 17, 2009 7:44 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Missed opportunities
Both ends. And Lundqvist looking determined and positionally sound, his toes glued to the posts.
Early PPs are so dicey, because when they miss it feels like they’re snakebit, and worse the refs start to bring the calls the other way.
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We're in a goal scoring rut
The way things have gone these past five games we can’t afford to give up a third.
Shudder to think of life without Tavares and Moulson.
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Don't know about that
This team has a long ways to go before being that bad.
subtract Moulson and Okposo and Rollie and Biron and Hillen (he wasn't this good last year)
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Isles are gonna have to neutralize Avery in this period
Make no mistake, he’s been a factor in this one. They are risking the health of Roloson if someone doesn’t confront him in this period. Avery will use that patented elbow drop befor the night is though.
Rollie has been absolute garbage
PUT IN MARTY
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I wouldn’t complain. They’re just not showing enough to do it, and Lundqvist doesn’t look like he’ll be budging.
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They're not gonna have any luck firing at him from the point
Need to get the puck down low and go high on him.
Lundqvist is good at managing those shots from the points and deflections.
Exactly, and they’re not getting the space or control of the puck down low to do that. This is why the Rangers can be so bad but rely on Lundqvist. Clog up the house and not many shooters can beat him from outside.
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Every pivotal moment has gone the wrong way, including not killing off this opening PK.
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I can't believe they came out of the gate
On a PK and just didn’t even thing to play physically on that PF with 55 seconds to kill and winning that faceoff.
Not taking the body and playing the puck
The Isles get into this habit and it gets ugly. That was just ugly and sloppy.
Brashear fail
Genius! Man, we need a guy like that. Pay him a million dollars! Or bring me an Orr!
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LOL! Nice!
What do you call a rivalry without a rival?
by metalcoconut on Dec 17, 2009 8:07 PM EST up reply actions
If we are getting back into this this is where it is going to happen
What do you call a rivalry without a rival?
Need to get Thompson and SIm out their to initiate a bit.
Those are our energy guys. That’s why they are there.
Lunquist is standing on his head
Would be nice if Rollie had more than 5 saves on 8 shots.
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I'd give Thomson and Sim more minutes in this period
Good last shift. They need that kind of energy if they hope to turn this around.
I’m generally not a fan of sending goalies out on back-to-backs, but I was happy they started Roloson tonight. Tonight would be a good exception: He’s been better, and he was so sharp last night. But he’s been shaky, particularly side to side.
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Too many men????!!!!! Way to kill it guys! Can we just get a goal?
What do you call a rivalry without a rival?
Apparently the answer is no, we can not get a goal.
What do you call a rivalry without a rival?
by metalcoconut on Dec 17, 2009 8:13 PM EST up reply actions
What happens if we run into the Queen the way they ran Rollie’s net in the first?
What do you call a rivalry without a rival?
I feel like we should start off every Rangers game that way.
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Strange Brew style…
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by metalcoconut on Dec 17, 2009 8:14 PM EST up reply actions
I'm serious. In between periods, cut him.
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I hope Nate Thompson actually gets bit by a snake
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Doggone geriatric goalies. He really is, though. Just sloppier and leaving more holes.
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Why not walk that puck in?
YOU FIUCKINGWNGOGBWIGTB@Q#I #$$
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Andy MAC!
Hell yeah! Bruno better never play again.
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Hey hey #47
Nice! He hasn’t caught the snake venom yet. Man, he deserves it too. He’s been good.
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Should be assist to Streit and the faceoff man … Nielsen I assume.
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If MacDonald’s shot doesn’t go in, think they call a penalty for dumping Nielsen in front of the net? Nah.
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Right…ok. LOL.
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by metalcoconut on Dec 17, 2009 8:21 PM EST up reply actions
Well it is good to see that they still have some fight in them after going down by 3. This is a pleasant surprise.
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Yes. And after the deflating Thompson miss.
Still need to get shots/rebounds from in closer. I appreciate they’re frenetic push, but the kitchen sink offense is better against Toskala, not the Swedish princess.
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Newsflash: Avery still a jackass
He’s like some beer league player who thinks everyone’s out to get him, when no one really cares about him because he’s not much of a threat.
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Moulson Golden
So he missed the backhand … but then he’s the first backchecker back, and breaks up a scoring chance. The man knows how to play this game.
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How is that not an Isles PP?
It’s games like this that gets me heated at Gordon. An experienced coach would be all over the Refs for such a shitty call like that.
Gordon doesn’t do a good job at selling his own cause. The refs are gonna make the lazy call every single time. This is like a home game for the Rags the way these refs are calling this one.
3-1 at the end of two
Damn. The Thompson miss hurts. So does that opening PK.
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so do Schremps two point-blank misses and Rollie's awfulness
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I’m not really bothered by the one Schremp miss. Quick rebound in between his feet. Wish he’d gotten it up, but that’s a tough one to lift.
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Shots: 27-16. PPs: Isles – 0 for 5, Rags 2 for 4.
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twice we've had great ones, with 5 shots
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Not much to say
That about says it all.
You can have all the shots in the world. If you don’t bury them and play poor fundamentals you are not gonna get far in this league.
Last night I felt the Rags took the Isles too lightly and the Isles really didn’t bring their A game. No Sim bounce and that game would have had a different view from many Isles fans. Tonight there is no lucky bounce and it’s showing in this game.
And Nielsen gets a penalty for...
Getting attacked by Prospal? Fuck these refs in the ass, and fuck their families.
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Ref clusterfuck
Well, they blew that call something awful. That’s unreal. You’re standing there, watching, and first, you can’t figure out your own penalty calls, and second, you can’t even count off facewashes/punches.
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Gordon needs to go to bat for his team
He should be standing on the bench right now screaming at these refs. He just has a blank look on his face.
Considering it took them five minutes to actually announce the calls, I thought he did alright. He had to wait until it was clear he was getting jobbed.
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Arent we the home team?
Arent we supposed to get the benefit of the doubt here?
And now the idiot is yelling at players warning him that he’ll call more. Yeah, you go ref.
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Gordon blew it on the Rags first goal where Prospal was IN THE NET before the puck
At that point you could tell the refs just didn’t give a fuck.
Scott Gordon should jump off the bench and start beating one of those refs
then take off his skate and stab him with it. They deserve it.
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Seriously. Nielsen four minutes for roughing?! Really?! And a 5-on-3?! Their asses must be rosy clean, with how far their head is up ’em.
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I'm going to murder one of these refs
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Hell, I’d settle for refs who have seen a goalmouth scrum before at this point.
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These refs should be fired
into the sun. Or death by firing squad. Or “inadvertently” punched in the face by Brendan Witt.
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I can't imagine would Arbour would do here
but it would involve a ton of expletives and maybe throwing stuff.
Honestly, I would advocate the murder of these referees
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Tough spot for Gordon since he doesn’t have a name yet. And all these new refs are anonymous. I love taking their nameplates off — yeah, let’s make them as unaccountable for their calls as possible. We wouldn’t want the crowd to know their name too easily.
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I don't care how green you are as a coach
You don’t allow the refs to run you out of YOUR OWN BUILDING like that.
I just don’t see there being that much you can do in this league. Definitely not like the NBA where you can get a constant dialogue and nudge things along. By the way they overreacted to that goalmouth scrum, these guys might be the overly sensitive type.
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Okay,
time to watch Jags-Colts
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wow
If you went by just the Penalties, you’d think the Islanders tried to murder someone.
I’m willing to bet that one/a few of these refs worked the night Carcillo got 29 minutes in penalties last week.
"So basically, the Stats make no sense whatsoever."
Can we bring up Dr. Hook McCracken
and tell him to fuck up the refs?
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Anisimov's goal
Did Tavares knock that in? I can’t see where Anisimov actually pulled a shot off.
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And in the end, they declined. Seems like the PP has gotten worse and less assertive as the night’s gone on.
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Nice Frans tip
So many missed opportunities and a couple idiotic calls and this could be a game right now.
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Gotta give Franny some credit, he’s +2 on the night.
"So basically, the Stats make no sense whatsoever."
Oh, but that awful undisciplined penalty he took! ;)
No, he’s been good.
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He certainly made it possible.
Feel like those were the two stories: Isles didn’t convert their PPs as Lundqvist shut the door, Roloson let some sloppy ones in as the Rangers potted two 5-on-4 goals.
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That was good. Frans will need to do more standing up for himself over time.
And Roszival, acting like he’s a badass for a brief moment. Hope he enjoyed it.
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I’m glad that I missed the 3rd period. I went swing dancing instead. Met a Red Wings fan while I was there and his wife had really sweaty hands…lol.
What do you call a rivalry without a rival?
He was a nice guy. No complaints here.
What do you call a rivalry without a rival?
by metalcoconut on Dec 18, 2009 9:06 AM EST up reply actions
It felt good to beat ou guys 2nite.......uhhh actually to beat any1 for that matter!
by giantsNYrangers on Dec 17, 2009 11:46 PM EST reply actions
Don’t get used to it. However it was good to see that there was some fire in that team. Hopefully their next match will be a little more spirited with the Islanders winning. :)
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by metalcoconut on Dec 18, 2009 8:49 AM EST up reply actions
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