Pronger's Warning to Tavares
by Dominik on Dec 10, 2009 8:00 AM EST
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Print"I hit him in the first [Islanders-Flyers] game. He told me, 'Keep your head up.' I didn't realize he meant the whole season."
>>John Tavares, telling Billy Jaffe about Chris Pronger's sneaky hit from behind,
which cost Tavares part of a tooth when his face was driven into the glass.
Which is odd, because when Pronger hit him in that second Flyers-Isles meeting Dec. 8, it was not a hit Tavares could have avoided even via hockey's oversimplified "keep your head up" cliche. As explained at the end of this post, Pronger chipped Tavares's tooth by hitting him from behind, drawing a minor penalty to which Pronger, naturally, objected.
Next time Pronger does the faux tough guy warning to a league newcomer, in the interest of full disclosure he should probably revise his Miranda reading to something like:
"Keep your head up ... but watch your blindside, because I like to prey on that, too. ... Oh, and look out for my elbows, because I use those a lot ... Oh and if you're prone on the ice, I might stomp or I might kick, it just depends. So yeah, watch out for those, maybe keep your legs wrapped in kevlar, I dunno. ... But it's okay: As a repeat offender the league always throws the book at me, totally ignoring my star status."
It's only fair.
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You know, I have said this before and I’ll say it again, it is times like these and players with such enigmatic warnings that I miss Darius Ignacio Charles Kasparaitis. I can picture it now, a little witty banter laden with monosyllabic verbiage followed by some non flattering comparisons of mothers and the grand finale of Kasper showing Pronger Russias new fleet of submarines. “This one is really quick and low profile. This one cruises under the radar. This is our prized wartime sub that we bring out in honor of admireable foes…we call it Red October…”
The Whole Foods grocery store (headquarters in Austin, TX) near me has announced that they have an outdoor rink on top of their building. I want to see how they get the Zamboni up there...
*giggling*
"This one is really quick and low profile. This one cruises under the radar. This is our prized wartime sub that we bring out in honor of admireable foes…we call it Red October…"
Beautiful.
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if he chipped his tooth
why wasn’t that at least a double minor? Or even a major? I think the NHL should send a message and suspend him a game or two. They won’t, of course, but they should.
How tough is Pronger?
I am not a big fighting in hockey guy. But does Pronger ever drop the mitts? I think the Isles should send someone after him.
He used to, and he still does on occasion. But of course he’s valuable so his team never likes to have him in the box. And it’s easier for him to hurt people behind the play than to go toe-to-toe with them.
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If Buff were an Islander...
(btw see my video fanshot of his end to end OT winner last night against the booshirts), I would give him a mission everytime we played the Flyers—-make Pronger’s life miserable.
No way in Hell do I want one of my players going up against Pronghole. The only nice thing about him is that he is not in StL anymore, so I don’t have to hear about him as often.
SHOOOOOOOT IT!!!! Anon
by burpchelischili on Dec 10, 2009 2:34 PM EST up reply actions
Why not
I don’t want Okposo or Johnny T dropping him, but I wouldn’t mind Morency getting called up to spear him in the groin.
Morency would be excellent. I wonder if we’ll get some Morency or Reich time before the year is up? That could bring some of the crazy. Of course Reich is just now finally healthy.
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ok, so not only does my flight get cancelled and i miss the game last night, but i get to come back to hearing pronger cheapshotted my man?
not surprised, he was sending a message, hopefully we sent one back… anyone go after him ?
why isn't #16 hanging in the rafters?
Welcome back
Sorry about the flight.
I didn’t see anyone do anything. By the time cameras showed me what happened, Pronger was already on his way to the box (complaining the whole way, of course), so I don’t know who saw what and when. Six more games to love him back, though.
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Pronger Fighting
He used to every now and then and would normally just destroy a guy. In STL they told him he was too valuable to fight and later he developed the bone problem with his wrist that nearly ended his career. I am not sure if a fight could be career ending at this point.
As far as not being tough, he could have played in any era, he just is smart enough to work the line, and even if he occasionally goes over hes still a Norris candidate, makes a ton of money, and teams want him on their side.
Yeah, according to HockeyFights.com he fought Willie Mitchell this year and has had seven fights since 2000-2001. I suspect that’s more to do with the value you mention rather than the wrist injury.
To me, that’s worse, actually: If you play like a guy who should answer the bell, then you shouldn’t hide behind the fact you’re an important player to your team. How many fights would Pronger have if the instigator rule were removed? Quite a few, I suspect.
But he’s very good at what he does in many aspects of the game, so here we are.
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I was going to write what Dominik did.
Mine was a legitimate question. I assume Pronger is a very strong dude. However, I don’t know how “tough” he is. I haven’t seen him fight that often, and some of his good tactics deserve a punch in the face.
He is likely tougher than most skilled guys, so I would like to see a heavyweight Dan Carcillo him in the nose.
However, I don’t know how "tough" he is. I haven’t seen him fight that often, and some of his good tactics deserve a punch in the face.
Amen. He’s been getting a free ride for quite some time.
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I still like my idea
get Buff or someone like him and have the guy harass Pronger endlessly throught the game. Everytime Pronger’s on the ice, our guy is, everywhere Pronger goes, our guy goes. He won’t have a chance to bang JT or Sir Matt because he’ll be constantly fighting off our guy’s checks. Eventually, he’ll goad Pronger into fighting.
Recent combatants
Dan Cleary, Michal Handzus, Jiri Slegr, Vaclav Varada…Methinks Chris Pronger picks and chooses who he is going to tilt.
From this list, I gather his rule of thumb is 4 inches and 20 pounds smaller, with little or no history of fighting.
I don’t know why this frustrates me so much, as I am on the fence on if fighting even belongs in hockey, but in Pronger’s case I really vote to have him suckered in the nose.
Great catch
He really lines up the heavyweights, eh?
I don’t know why this frustrates me so much, as I am on the fence on if fighting even belongs in hockey, but in Pronger’s case I really vote to have him suckered in the nose.
This. Wow do I know how you feel. It’s like he plays within this little loophole in the game, and his behavior is an inadvertent argument for fighting’s place. Come to think of it, I think he’s even commented before about letting the players “police themselves,” which would be pretty hilarious coming from him.
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It’s like he plays within this little loophole in the game
Its like it because that is exactly what he does. I cant stand him.
Let Us Go, Islanders!
(Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)
by TheMetalChick on Dec 12, 2009 10:32 AM EST up reply actions
Ha!
I bet he also trips little girls in the mall parking lot just so he can practice his “How on Earth can you blame me” look.
As far as fighting in Hockey, Both Stan Mikita, and the Golden Jet are for it, in my opinion that calls it.
SHOOOOOOOT IT!!!! Anon
by burpchelischili on Dec 12, 2009 12:15 PM EST up reply actions
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