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Introducing Your Islanders 2010 Olympic Hockey Hopefuls: *crickets*

There is an exchange in the movie "Airplane!" that sort of goes like this but doesn't really go like this:

Elaine (stewardess): "Would you like something to read?"
Old Woman (not the one who later "speaks Jive"): "Do you have anything light?"
Elaine (hands over a bookmark-sized paper): "How about this leaflet, 'Famous Islanders 2010 Olympic Hopefuls'?"

(The original line is a harmless religious gag that you might not remember unless you're someone who watched that film way too often in the '80s ... someone like me.)

Because 2010 Olympic hockey rosters will start to be announced later this month, several of us hockey site managers on SB Nation are taking turns looking at our respective teams to see who's a lock, who's on the bubble, etc. for each country. Sadly, Team Denmark did not qualify for this Olympic tourney -- cutting Islanders representation by a scientifically estimated figure of 33 to 50 percent.

Fine by me. While I like to have good players, I don't mind our good players getting a big rest in February while everyone else's stars fight it out for bigger endorsement deals the pure patriotic pride that the completely uncommercialized Olympics has proudly represented for so long. Unfortunately, our best player at our weakest position is the most important player on his national team.

[Olympic outlook continues after the jump, after the poll...]

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This Guy Right Here, He's an Olympian


Mark Streit

#2 / Defenseman / New York Islanders

6-0

197

Dec 11, 1977

"Mark Streit" is Latin for "Swiss god of hockey"

"Lay her down and slap 'em yack 'em"



GP G A P +/- PIM PPG SHG GWG GTG SOG PCT
2009 - Mark Streit 27 4 11 15 1 22 2 0 1 0 61 6.6

With all due apologies to David Aebischer, Mark Streit is the face of Swiss hockey on these shores. Be it Olympics or be it the annual World Championships -- where Streit played 10 consecutive tournaments -- Streit is a fixture. He was captain in 2006 (when Switzerland beat Canada and the Czech Republic in group play) and the captain at the World Championships last spring, when I really wish he'd been resting his banged-up body after his first NHL season as a #1 defenseman.

Streit's not only a lock this year (barring injury), he's probably a lock until he gets old and gray, sort of like Petr Stastny was for Slovakia. Why this sort of stinks? As often discussed here, the Islanders blueline is a bit of a weak point, and Streit is their best defenseman, logging the most minutes. I don't relish the thought of him coming back exhausted. Fortunately for the Islanders-centric view, his team is a long shot to make it to the medal round.

Streit might be the only Islander at the Olympics ... but maybe not.

This Guy, He's Got Work to Do, But One Day He'll Be an Olympian


Kyle Okposo

#21 / Right Wing / New York Islanders

6-1

200

Apr 16, 1988

2008 WJC, 2009 WC

A Brian Burke-type of player, minus the dumb penalties part. But would need to pick it up, quickly. Or, in short: "Cutter say can't hang."



GP G A P +/- PIM PPG SHG GWG GTG SOG PCT
2009 - Kyle Okposo 26 5 9 14 -6 16 2 0 2 0 82 6.1

The first step for Kyle Okposo was last spring, when he formed the most consistent line for Team USA at the WC with David Backes and TJ Oshie. That line is an ideal, North American-style combo of physicality, hands and determination right there. The coach's stereotypical "Give me 18 Backeses/Okposos/Oshies and I won't have to coach" sort of deal. The second step for Okposo was being among the 34 invited to last summer's orientation camp.

But after a promising second half last year and a nice start this year, Okposo's been in a bit of a slump. He's only 100 games into his NHL career, and his scoring totals will definitely improve (particularly if he re-unites with John Tavares and Matt Moulson on the top line). But for now, his totals and play tell me he's not on pace to make the cut this year. Lots of games in December could change that projection, though. And generally when people watch an Islanders game, they notice when this Minnesotan is on the ice. That talent and love for the game could make him an Olympian one day ... if the NHL is still doing that thing in 2014 or 2018.

This Guy Has Been Shelved, But Deserves a Mention for Service


Doug Weight

#93 / Center / New York Islanders

5-11

196

Jan 21, 1971

Led the U.S. team to gold at the 1960 Olympics in Squall Valley

Dinner is every day at 4:30 in the cafeteria. Bridge is in the lobby. In the lounge is a TV with SAP where you can watch Wapner and the Olympics in closed-caption.



GP G A P +/- PIM PPG SHG GWG GTG SOG PCT
2009 - Doug Weight 11 0 6 6 2 0 0 0 0 0 19 0.0

I'll just be happy if Doug Weight, whose body keeps reminding him this is a young man's game, is healthy in February. When healthy, he's a big help to the Islanders powerplay. But he's on the shelf now, likely for several more weeks, and he wasn't in the picture for this year's Olympics anyway. Of the World Cup '96ers -- man, what a wonderful week that was -- only Mike Modano was invited to last summer's orientation camp as a player. And seriously, Modano shouldn't be in Vancouver either.

Don't Call Us, We'll Call You


Sean Bergenheim

#20 / Left Wing / New York Islanders

5-10

205

Feb 08, 1984

Multiple WJCs plus 3 of the last 4 WCs

Pretty slim, actually - but he'd fit right in if called.



GP G A P +/- PIM PPG SHG GWG GTG SOG PCT
2009 - Sean Bergenheim 27 4 6 10 1 14 0 1 0 0 55 7.3

Sean Bergenheim is a diligent, feisty, responsible two-way player, which is why Scott Gordon trusts him in defensive situations more than the "pure" scorers on the Islanders. Of course, that description fits a ton of Finnish players, so there's no reason Bergenheim should expect to be on the squad. He would have played at last spring's World Championships, but as with Frans Nielsen and his Mottau'd knee, the Islanders wisely talked Bergenheim out of putting his wonky groin through an intense tournament test.

Still, if a plague of injuries wiped through Finland's best players, you know Bergenheim would handle a fourth-line role like a pro.

Sticking with Bergenheim's team: Finnish goalies are as common as Texas quarterbacks and Nebraskan linemen, so no, Mikko Koskinen does not get the call, even if Miikka Kiprusoff is doing the whole prima donna thing.

Sticking with Nordic goalies: Were you like me when you saw Chris Botta's headline about Anders Nilsson being "selected to Team Sweden?" Wha-wha-what?! Oh, that Team Sweden. I always forget about the kids, so of course I was going to forget about the WJCs when it was the Olympics on my mind. Still, the fact Nilsson is in the picture for his national junior team is nothing but a positive for the Islanders' future. Oh, hey, did you hear Rick DiPietro is about to get some game action in Bridgeport?

If Only My Country Had Qualified

Frans Nielsen, the NHL's first Dane, would be there if the rest of his team was. He's a smart two-way center with some savvy puck skills -- okay, and I have a man-crush on his game -- but the fact he's one of Denmark's best hockey products tells you why Denmark won't be in Vancouver. As with Streit and Switzerland, though, players like Frans are the guys who pave the way for national team growth. And unless you're the type of Canadian who thinks the sky is falling each time the percentage of Canucks in the NHL drops, then more hockey played by more people in more countries is always a good thing. Period.

Richard Park, one of the few Korean-born players in NHL history, will not be at the Olympics. But not because South Korea won't be -- Park's actually a U.S. citizen who has represented the U.S. several times at the World Championships. But the pool of willing Olympic players is deeper than the IIHF's annual spring tournament, so the role Park normally plays will be taken by a 20-goal scorer.

Regardless, Park is also a trailblazer with a very interesting route to the NHL, and a couple of times on this site we've had at least one Asian-North American (another Nova Soctian, actually) log on just to share with us what Park's career has meant. That is always cool.

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Related: Full stream of SBN's 2010 Olympic hockey previews.

Note: This is a hockey-lover's site, run as a labor of love. Which means it's hardly authoritative and not sourced by Olympic team insiders. You're not only welcome to disagree with these assessments, you're encouraged to lodge any disagreement or other thoughts in comments, whatever they may be ("Airplane!" quotes, for example).

Side question: How much do you care about Olympic hockey? I feel a bit inconvenienced by it myself. Kind of miss the amateurs and the Canada Cup/World Cup.

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The only reason I like Olympic hockey with the Pros is because USA/Canada always seems to lose. Plus one of the NHL games had Team Italy as goaltended by the immortal Jason Muzzati

"So basically, the Stats make no sense whatsoever."

by Mark D on Dec 1, 2009 11:11 AM EST reply actions  

Oh man, that’s right — Italy had some interesting ones. I remember when Olaf Kolzig was all Germany had going for it.

Lighthouse Hockey: Side effects may include Weight gain and frequent game loss.

by Dominik on Dec 1, 2009 12:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Funny enough, I watched the first year Ollie was backstopping Germany. I think they were playing Sweden, and the score was 2-1 for Sweden until the last 10 minutes of the game (Ollie already had 56 Saves by that point and was exhausted). The next day I tell my fellow goaltender friend about him and how he’s going to be a star. Needless to say my friend looks at the box score, sees the final score of 6-1 and just laughs at me. I won that argument when Ollie got to the Stanley cup, lol.

"So basically, the Stats make no sense whatsoever."

by Mark D on Dec 1, 2009 6:10 PM EST up reply actions  

The olympics belong to the amateurs and the pros should stick to the world cup. There is no need for both of them if the pros are going to play in both of them. They just as well create a roller hockey league for summer where the pros….oh yeah that didn’t work. Herb Brooks was right on this one too.

I'll see your starting goalie and raise you a Biron.

by metalcoconut on Dec 1, 2009 12:27 PM EST reply actions  

create a roller hockey league for summer where the pros….oh yeah that didn’t work

Gah! My EYES! It hurts!

Remember the “pro beach” league with the banked ends of the rink? Good god, the horror…

Lighthouse Hockey: Side effects may include Weight gain and frequent game loss.

by Dominik on Dec 1, 2009 12:59 PM EST up reply actions  

That looked like a foozball table gone wrong. Just aweful.

I'll see your starting goalie and raise you a Biron.

by metalcoconut on Dec 1, 2009 6:12 PM EST up reply actions  

I had to look this up. I knew there was a goalie in the RHI who became a goalie in the NHL. That goalie is, Manny Legace.

"So basically, the Stats make no sense whatsoever."

by Mark D on Dec 1, 2009 6:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Wow. Did not know that. I remember there was a guy (brief Blue and Ranger) Harry York who came out of the roller league. Didn’t last long, of course.

Lighthouse Hockey: Side effects may include Weight gain and frequent game loss.

by Dominik on Dec 1, 2009 8:47 PM EST up reply actions  

The Danes not qualifying is an interesting topic because for the lesser European nations, The Swiss, Norway, Denmark among others, They need to win qualifying rounds to make it in. While the NHL releases players for the Olympics, the qualifying is a different story and it takes place during the regular season.

The Norwegian team that beat Denmark to make it to the Olympics had one player of note who was not released becuase he was playing in the NHL, Ole-Krisitan Tollefsen then with Columbus and hasn’t played for his country in over three years. All their better players (Patrick Thoresen, Mats Aasen, the Spets brothers, Jonas Hoelos) were with European teams and were released. Meanwhile Denmark was without NHLers Nielsen, Jannik Hansen and Mikkel Boedeker.

Is this fair? Should these countries federations make a concerted effort to keep these players in Europe? Why should I feel sorry for Denmark when I am the son of a Norwegian?

by David Hanssen on Dec 1, 2009 4:58 PM EST reply actions  

Why should I feel sorry for Denmark when I am the son of a Norwegian?

LOL. “A doughnut without holes … is just a Danish.”

As the son of a Czech, I got a good chuckle when the Czechs and Slovaks split, so Slovakia had to play its way all the way back up from the bottom.

It’s too bad, it’s never really “fair” with these qualifying play-ins, which I guess is why ultimately national team depth is important. It’s incredible we can talk about the Isles and the Olympics without mentioning even Tavares because Canadian depth is so great. He’d at least be in the conversation with most national teams.

Lighthouse Hockey: Side effects may include Weight gain and frequent game loss.

by Dominik on Dec 1, 2009 5:55 PM EST up reply actions  

pros at the olympics

Now that I’ve given up my “lurking” ways, you can’t get me to shut up! Those of us in Norht America with constant acess to the highest quality hockey on earth, don’t realize how important the olympics are to the rest of the hockey world. European hockey fans live for the olympics every four years- and a chance to see all the best players their country has produced play meaningfull (to them) games. Sometimes even played in thier prime time for T.V. viewing. What would olympic hockey be with out the worlds best players? The Caulder Cup?

by since70too on Dec 1, 2009 5:40 PM EST reply actions  

Don’t they go ape for the World Championships, too?

I love best-on-best tourneys, I’d just prefer hockey actually have a regularly scheduled summer World Cup that doesn’t interrupt the season, then keep the Olympics as well. I like to have my cake and eat it too. :)

Lighthouse Hockey: Side effects may include Weight gain and frequent game loss.

by Dominik on Dec 1, 2009 5:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Ok I understand that you want to see the best players out there but how can jamming 21 players together from all over the world, in some cases, for only 2 weeks count as a team? That is the dream that killed the olympics. It is not a dream team it is a profitable venture. Plus, they already have the best players playing for their countries during world cup. The only difference is that the world cup can be resituated to not fall in the middle of the NHL season which is where the majority of the players from the sport are coming. The winter olympics can not be resituated to accommodate the NHL.

Then you have the issue of dealing with playing together as a team. Let’s face it, the stars that are playing right now are not playing together as a team the way a bunch of players practicing together for at least a month would play. They are focusing on the strength of the individuals rather than getting the benefit of team play.

I love watching the best play but I love to see them play together as a team that has practiced together rather than just crammed together for 2 weeks on a tight schedule.

I'll see your starting goalie and raise you a Biron.

by metalcoconut on Dec 1, 2009 6:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Can’t argue with that. While we are wishing for things that the current fiscal model precludes, how about a 70ish game sched. that ends before summer heat waves. Maybe players wouldn’t be still worn out come time for a September world cup.

by since70too on Dec 1, 2009 6:44 PM EST up reply actions  

I can agree with that, especially with the southern expansion. When Dallas makes it to the cup and they talk about having issues with the ice melting…you have to figure that is bad for the sport.

I'll see your starting goalie and raise you a Biron.

by metalcoconut on Dec 2, 2009 10:21 AM EST up reply actions  

Why can’t we dream really big – and move the hockey from the Winter Olympics to the Summer Olympics instead? I know that it would never happen, and you would create a totally different set of issues and problems, but – why couldn’t the IIHF championships be adjusted instead {maybe starting in mid-May instead of late April} which would allow more NHL talent to participate?

The IIHF games will never been widely seen in North America {except on the Internet, where they were all viewable at a low cost bundle price live this year} and I doubt they would ever be unless some network like Sportsnet or Fox Sports would take a chance on them – but I also believe the NHL would not like that idea too much.

Give me the late 1980’s Canada Cup style tournament instead in August where the early games were played in many NHL arenas. That may be the best solution in some ways, I have heard that it may return if the NHL abandons the Olympics, but that idea is a good way off too. I believe the NHL is in the Olympics to stay, and this will be negotiated again on the next CBA.

I guess I have given up my “lurking” ways too now…

by spiker97 on Dec 1, 2009 8:59 PM EST reply actions  

I'd love that
I guess I have given up my "lurking" ways too now…

Welcome to the party :) Love that Seals logo.

That’s be great to shift it to the Summer Olympics (or really, yeah, just do the Canada/World Cup right). Seems like the summer Olympics carry into September sometimes though, right?

I agree that the NHL will probably stay in the Olympics — it’s just smart (for their interests, anyway) for the owners to treat it as a CBA issue rather than as a given.

Lighthouse Hockey: Side effects may include Weight gain and frequent game loss.

by Dominik on Dec 1, 2009 9:47 PM EST up reply actions  

please no

the olympics in general are a huge waste of time. just because you add professional players to it doesn’t make it better – it makes it worse, since they have about 2 weeks to train together. my friends and i had more chemistry in our pickup roller hockey games years ago then these guys do. that was due to the fact that we played together several times a week.

personally i hope none of the isles go so we don’t have to worry about injuries or the players coming back and getting tired down the stretch. let them get 2 weeks (or whatever amount of time it is) to rest and worry about the real hockey.

as for the winter/summer thing – never happen. it’s a winter sport – they are not going to move it just to accomodate the NHL. There’s already too much crap in the summer games as well.

by nullzero00 on Dec 5, 2009 1:59 PM EST reply actions  

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