Garth Snow now has "green light" from Wang to make stupid deals
Not that I'm trying to take away from a great start to the season from this team. Was reading Chris Botta's latest in regards to whether or not Wang is choking Snow's funds right now. According to Snow, Wang has given him the green light to go out and spend for guys so they can improve their post season chances.
I think this franchise is jumping the gun here and is too easily fooled by a good looking start to the season. This really is nothing more than a mirage and it will dissapear as we approach late January. That's barring any serious injury to key players and those seem to be piling up now. Even healthy, and I think we've gone over this ad nauseum this season, the D just is not skilled or mobile enough to make a difference for a very long period of time.
Snow could deal for D now but anything significant is going to cost too much. Once the season starts D is at a premium and the price tag goes up as each game goes by.
The biggest question is, at what price? My bet? Given the teams position any significant upgrade is going to cost this team one of these: Bailey, Okposo, DeHaan, Hamonic, Ness, Donovan, First rounder, second rounder or Petrov. Then there are the Vets which (Sutton, Weight, Witt) are also gonna most likely cost a pick or a prospect as a sweetener to any skilled Dman coming back.
The price is too high for a team that's slowly starting to show some bite at the NHL level and replenish it's stock in the AHL, Juniors and college.
My take? Allow the team to fail or succede on it's merits this season. Let this years draft and summer UFA market take care of the rest. If anything, if Snow is thinking of making a rush to judgement trade, at least wait till after the WJC considering that DeHaan (He's put on 14 lbs since camp) and Hamonic are a lock to make it.
This may be New York where patience in sports is not really pary of the culture. This is hockey and in this sport, slow and steady wins the race. The Isles priorities is still to stock up on as many picks as they can grab so injuries to guys like Martinek and Sutton don't kill this team. And we are gonna see the fall out from those in the weeks to come. Keep stocking till you reach a point where you can get the UFAs you need at discount on short term deals and sign your core to long term deals. The last thing you want is to become a farm team for the rest of the NHL like Buffalo has with Brierre, Campbell and Max Afenigenov (I said Snow should have signed at least this UFA).
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It is doubtful that Snow will or should make any deals until the trade deadline. If the Isles still look good at that point, then go make some moves (hopefully not stupid deals like you by-line says). Yes, the rebuild is a slow process, but there is no reason not to do some prudent buying at the deadline if the opportunity arises (being battle-tested in the playoffs is potentially advantageous to future playoff aspirations). If not, then don’t.
Also, I think although Afinogenov could have been a good UFA signing – he is streaky, doesn’t appear to play D well and coasts at times out on the ice. Basically, he isn’t a Gordon-type player.
Also, I think although Afinogenov could have been a good UFA signing – he is streaky, doesn’t appear to play D well and coasts at times out on the ice. Basically, he isn’t a Gordon-type player.
That’s ultimately why I didn’t want him. He’s succeeding now in Atlanta with two fellow Russians, one of whom is absolute alpha dog on that team. If the Isles had that to offer, I would have wanted him, but basically Atlanta was a perfect situation for him, whereas I don’t think the Island was.
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I think Snow deserves to be trusted by now. I don’t think its so much of a “Go out and spend money like crazy” but more of a “Theres no reason for me or anyone else to be looking over your shoulder, your not Milbury”
Bailey, Okposo and Tavares are all proving their worth. Streit, Moluson, Roloson and Biron were all quality signings. I think now is the time for the Isles organization to say “Snow, you know what your doing”. I think Snow has basically been in control anyway, just not officially.
"So basically, the Stats make no sense whatsoever."
I think Garth should make moves that help the team now...
as long as they are consistent with the long range goal of building a champion. I would not favor giving up serious assets. One avenue is the waiver wire. Preissing was just waived by the Avs. He has put up pretty good offensive numbers in the past and might help our PP. That would be an example of a move that would help the team without losing assets that would help build the team of the future.
This was weird "news," period.
It was nice to learn this, I guess. But I still can’t make much out of the original source material, which amounted to this in its entirety:
Garth Snow on Friday told Slap Shots via text that he has the authority from CEO Charles Wang to add payroll for a playoff berth.Sounds like Snow answered a simple question via text, and in typical Snow style, isn’t going to elaborate beyond that. As in: Is Wang keeping you at the payroll you have now, even if a playoff run might be aided by another salary? Answer: Of course not.
…I’m pretty much in agreement with the FanPost and everyone here: It’d be stupid to waste the young assets for a short-term boost, but if you can cheaply add someone late in the year to reward this crew for a job well done, by all means don’t let money be the thing that stops you.
I guess I feel like this little bit from Brooks and Botta was a headline of “Nothing has Changed.”
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About the "mirage" though
Is this team’s current performance “a mirage” though? (I’m probably parsing here, but) I don’t think it is.
I think when reasonably healthy, they’re perfectly capable of sustaining something like their current performance - which is hovering around the quasi.500, one point per game pace. That’s not enough for playoffs, at all; just enough to finish somewhere in the 20s overall. I figure they can continue this until their lack of depth gets exposed if/when too many injuries pile up—… oh, hi Andy, hi Frans. Why are you in street clothes?
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20s overall?
I suppose you mean 20th to 30th worst ranked teams…or a top ten draft pick. Probably so. I guess they will need to have about 70 points or more at the deadline to be a serious playoff contender. I suspect that they will be at least 5-10 points short of that. That;s when Garth will sell off players like Sutton, Biron, Park, and maybe Weight, rest players who are injured and bring up the Joensuus, Martins, MacDonalds et al. I suspect then we will finish with a point total in the 75-80 range.
If, in the end, we finish with the #3 or #4 pick, we might be able to entice Phoenix to trade their two first rounders for ours along with their second rounder and a prospect. I am guessing that Calgary will be one and done and finish about #20 and that Phoenix will be around #12. Teemu and Erik Gudbranson were both originally thought to be top ten picks, but now injuries and other concerns have many picking them in the mid first. Then, if we can move our second round pick up into the late first round, we should be able to pick up either Nino Niederreiter or Victor Ohman—two potent PF LWs either of whom along with Teemu should make up a very potent second line. At the same time, Gudbranson, Hamonic, and Niemi should give us the talent and physical dimension we need on the blueline. Then some leveraged trades and FA signings should go a long way toward completing the core. I really believe that Lee will be the final missing piece, our Butch Goring…and then we can complete the Drive for Five.
Just checking – the Isles have $13,1m of cap space as of now according to cap central. There are probably a couple of usable Defensemen out there that could be signed to a short term contract {no more than two seasons} that would probably be a help to the current D in terms of experience and stability. Look at the Kings with the addition of Ryan Smith and Rob Scuderi.
Of course, in checking Cap Central – the current Eklund rumor is the Isles are in the hunt for Ilya Kovachuk – that would be a major help – but that is not what they need {and I believe he will stay in Atlanta but that is another story}. Check out the current list of restricted and unrestricted free agents that will be available for 2010 on Defense however. If Garth would be somewhat patient – he could rent someone like a Pavel Kubina {just a logical example} or similar which may help them get in – bit I don’t see anything major happening here until after the holidays and before the Olympics. The next 15 or so games will be crucial to what kind of decision will be made.
There is definitely quality help available however. Just don’t give away the store. The Kings are a perfect example top follow here in terms of growth, patience – and building the right team around the right core {John Tavares}.
Key words – don’t give away the store.
would NOT want to rent anybody
I doubt Kovi is going anywhere and if he did, it sure would not be here. I think Kubina is also with the Thrashers and they are a contender. Don’t think he’s going anywhere either. I would only buy a player who was going to be part of our core and that is something that Garth will probably wait until the offseason to do. Using the Kings example, they had been rebuilding a lot longer than we have when they signed Smyth and Scuderi. A good draft, trades and free agent signings this summer should give Garth the kind of core he needs to start adding veterans to.
Garth Snow now has “green light” from Wang to make stupid deals
Im sorry but I just dont see how youre coming to that from what Garth said. This isnt much of a story, Garth has said before that he is not limited moneywise by Charles Wang, people just accuse him of lying about it and insist theres an internal cap, anyway. Garth simply made it clear that there isnt. I dont see why this idea of him making stupid deals is coming up. What ‘stupid deals’ has Garth EVER made? I say none.
Let Us Go, Islanders!
(Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)
in any case, we dont play again til thursday, by which time the teams under us play a collective 9 games, as we are on the “more games played than league average” side…
this doesn’t count teams tied in points with us, or 1 or 2 up… so we could look a lot uglier come thursday morning standings wise
why isn't #16 hanging in the rafters?
OT: ads
You mentioned Macy’s emo guy bumming you out. But the “Trojan 2 Go” ad really cracks me up. I’m reluctant to click — but what on earth is more portable than a condom? Were they sitting around brainstorming, “You know, the thing we hear most from our customers is that they wish there was a rubber you could take on the go with you. You know, something more convenient and portable.”
On that note, I know they the overlords here try to keep ads from being too invasive — just enough to pay the bills without messing with your experience. Sometimes it doesn’t work, but they’re always trying to adjust. That’s my ad spiel: Apologies, but if it means they take care of the back-end tech work of hosting the site, then I’ll take it. 2Go.
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I didn’t even know there were ads on this site for that matter…
"So basically, the Stats make no sense whatsoever."

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