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Devils (a lot), Islanders (a little): And Frans Nielsen hurt, too

There's nothing to do but throw this one out. Frans Nielsen's departure (shoulder injury?) after just three shifts put the Islanders in an interesting three-plus lines mix that never quite worked out. And the Isles committed several errors while letting a 2-1 deficit turn into a blowout in a matter of minutes.

But I'll still say it: At 2-1 in the 3rd period, the NHL officiating crew did their part to advance this game toward farce, handing an absurd 1:50 5-on-3 to the Devils -- both calls were jokes -- then failing to whistle play on a Devils high stick during the ensuing attempted kill. One of the two clowns in orange armbands, Chris Rooney, also imagined that waived off Devils "goal" in the 2nd period. Nice work, if you can get it.

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That officiating joke wasn't the story of the game by any means. But I save my rants about officiating for when a game was a win or a blowout anyway -- note that the Islanders whiffed on four PP opportunities, managing only two shots. When it's clear that blame for a loss does not fall on the hands of those who, uh, "manage" the game, I can get this off my chest:

I'm tired of seeing weak, 90-second-plus 5-on-3s handed to Islanders' opponents game after game after game. Today's was the worst of them all. This team gets no benefit of the doubt (nor its own lengthy 5-on-3 PPs, for that matter), and that is crystallized in Richard Park somehow being whistled for "2 minutes, defending" 11 seconds into that pivotal penalty kill. The "new NHL" rule enforcement -- something I heartily support -- still creates an ambiguous standard when a team is already short. Somehow, the Islanders consistently fall on the wrong side of that ever-shifting standard.

Star-divide

What followed barely needs recounting: Brendan Witt's stick was broken by a shot, leaving the Isles doing a 2.5-on-5. The Devils settled a rebound with a high stick yet play continued without interruption. Finally, Patrik Elias converted the 5-on-3 -- the first time a team has converted a two-man advantage against the Isles all season. After that, instant carnage.

The Islanders shouldn't have been caught pitying themselves in the ensuing frenzy when the Devils tacked on two more goals in the next 2:02. But I understand. Sometimes you just wonder what you have to do to get on the right side of one of the NHL's many nebulous standards.


Biron: Strong in Allowing ... Six Goals?

The biggest pity is that the 6-1 final score doesn't reflect how well Martin Biron played initially to keep the Isles within striking distance heading into the third. There were controlling moments for each side in the first two periods, but by the second intermission the Devils had a 26-19 shot advantage. By the end of the game, that was 42-23.

I mentioned before the game how Dwayne Roloson has received far more goal support than Biron, and today was no different. And after the 5-on-3 goal, pretty much the whole team collapsed and Biron was done saving their bacon.

Replacing Frans

With Nielsen out, the lines juggled a bit. Trent Hunter (20:00) and Richard Park (17:49) each had four shots on goal. John Tavares (22:40) and Kyle Okposo (17:44) had three apiece. Thanks to the two goals against in one minute in the third, those two plus Matt Moulson, Mark Streit and Jack Hillen were all minus-2 on the day. Carnage. [EDIT: Thanks to eagle-eye commenter BenHasna, who pointed out that the top line was not still on the ice for the fourth goal -- the fourth line had just come on instead. That affects the +/- on the day; will be interesting to see if the league changes it.

Power Play: Looking Ever Weaker without Weight

Again, the Islanders were handed their chances: Four powerplays, eight minutes ... two shots. In fact, they were outshot by the Devils in those situations, as the Devils put up three shots while shorthanded. The Isles powerplay has now fallen to 17.2%, ranking 24th in the league.

It's amazing how much Weight calms things down when he's on the powerplay point opposite Mark Streit. Kyle Okposo is much more of a "play with urgency" style of player, so he doesn't bring the same sense there. I'd like to see more of Jack Hillen in that role, actually. Of course, I'd like to see more of Jack Hillen anywhere, except for the penalty box, where he's been appearing regularly lately.

Speaking of Young Defensemen...

Andrew MacDonald: Plus-1 today, and still hasn't been on the ice for a 5-on-5 goal against. Yep, not even in today's 6-1, four-EV-goal-against trouncing. Interesting.

On the Bright Side?

At WebBard's prompting ... This is the Islanders' sixth loss by three or more goals this year. Four of those have been exactly three-goal margins. At this stage last year ... they'd actually lost only four by three or more (with two ugly blowouts). Difference? Last year, they were 10-15-2 for 22 points and in the middle of a 10-game winless streak that was about to include a 9-2 disaster in Pittsburgh. Today they're 10-10-7 for 27 points. That's progress ... I think.

Looked at another way, including the OTLs, 11 of their "losses" have been one-goal games. Last year they'd only had three one-goal losses at this point.

They've been healthier this year (though now add Frans Nielsen and Andy Sutton -- MRI on his groin -- to the infirmary), they appear to execute Scott Gordon's scheme better, and they don't as often have the meltdowns that they had today once the game was sealed. Overall, each game is more competitive, which is why the Islanders keep dancing around either side of the NHL's version of a quasi-.500 record.

That's progress ... I think.

Next Up: Atlanta

As Pepe Le Pew's intended would say: "Le pant, le pant." Whew, we actually have a few "off days," as the Isles don't resume play until Thursday in Atlanta. Which means I gotta get back out of "gameday, game recap" mode and come up with some new things to say. Wish me luck...

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So whats the chances that they call up Greg Moore? He seems to be another borderline guy like MacDonald. And I get the feeling that Gordon isn’t exactly sold on Rob Schremp Hockey (he only played twice all November).

Also, in regards to Schremp, I found the most absurd ad today. While looking him up on HockeyDB, there was this link for Schremp. Do you think someone, somewhere freaked when Schremp moved to the Islanders and thought their new cash cow had come in?

"So basically, the Stats make no sense whatsoever."

by Mark D on Nov 28, 2009 8:49 PM EST reply actions  

Schremp

If Nielsen is out this is the perfect spot to slide him in… all of his games consisted of him being burried on a line with jon sim or not getting any minutes. Schremp is a dynamic playmaking center who is a solid face-off man. If you throw him out there with KO and Bergie I gaurentee they will be our most dangerous line.

NO MORE COMEAU

by Big Swoopty on Nov 29, 2009 10:43 AM EST up reply actions  

more dangerous than a line with JT and MM...

easily our two leading scorers? I don’t think so. Schremp has yet to acore a goal with the Isles & has a grand total of two assists in 8 games, Bergy is hardly a sniper, and even Kyle is in a bit of a scoring slump. Don’t think so.

by BCISLEMAN on Nov 29, 2009 10:50 AM EST up reply actions  

Gotta agree with BC on this one. Not only that but as a “solid faceoff man” in his 8 games he’s only been above 50% on faceoffs twice, and he floats closer to 33%. Not only that, but in his last 3 games going backward he’s had 13 min, 9 min and 6 min. Thats what makes me think Gordon might not be high on him.

"So basically, the Stats make no sense whatsoever."

by Mark D on Nov 29, 2009 1:49 PM EST up reply actions  

that said...

if Frans is going to be out any length of time, we will need to rely on Schremp, so I hope he can show us something.

by BCISLEMAN on Nov 29, 2009 2:05 PM EST up reply actions  

So whats the chances that they call up Greg Moore?

Interesting. I’m inclined to give Schremp a go for time served, though I agree Gordon hasn’t appeared inclined to use him. Frans is getting PP time as well as about 1:37 of PK time per game, so it’s a tough spot to fill.

If they don’t try him now, you have to figure that’s the end of Rob Schremp Hockey on the Island.

Lighthouse Hockey: Side effects may include Weight gain and frequent game loss.

by Dominik on Nov 29, 2009 2:49 PM EST up reply actions  

I suppose...

losing most of your games by one goal instead of 5 or 6 is progress of a sort. But good teams are good because they usually win those one goal games while bad teams usually find a way to lose them. This team still has a lot of maturing to do.

by BCISLEMAN on Nov 29, 2009 5:36 AM EST reply actions  

huh?

so what exactly is a penalty for “defending”?

by nullzero00 on Nov 29, 2009 8:52 AM EST reply actions  

There isn’t any penalty for defending.

Tackling a guy from behind (Hillen on Halischuk) and hugging an opponent in the crease (Park), however, is usually going to be a call.

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by John Fischer on Nov 29, 2009 11:17 AM EST up reply actions  

hugging an opponent in the crease (Park)

If only that had happened. These guys thought a routine, standard shot off the far post was a goal — and may have even cost the Devils a goal on that play by stopping play in the middle of action. Park’s whirling for position on the PK was as much of a “hug” as the waived-off post shot was a goal.

Lighthouse Hockey: Side effects may include Weight gain and frequent game loss.

by Dominik on Nov 29, 2009 2:28 PM EST up reply actions  

so what exactly is a penalty for "defending"?

“Defending” is the umbrella of infractions a ref can use when he sees someone has fallen down yet he has no idea why, but he feels compelled to call something to assert his “control” of the game.

The converse of “defending” is “just playing hockey,” when a ref sees a clear infraction but does not feel in that game situation that he wants to make a call, whether because his penalty ledger is already imbalanced or he has a hot date he needs to get to. (e.g. Just watched Sami Pahlsson dangerously flatten Olli Jokinen from behind and worse, a few feet from the boards where that hit is most dangerous of all; but it was the last minute of OT, so the refs pretended nothing happened — even though it led to a scoring chance — and decided “oh, well, they’re both Finns, they’ll sort it out.”)

Of course, “defending” is just me being bitter after weeks of B.S. that make NHL hockey a little harder to watch.

Lighthouse Hockey: Side effects may include Weight gain and frequent game loss.

by Dominik on Nov 29, 2009 2:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Whether the officials made mistakes or not it doesn’t change the fact that the Devils completely controlled the puck and the play for the last 40 minutes. The game should have been an even bigger blowout. The refs did not significantly impact the outcome of this game, the Devils were simply the (much) better team.

by drhgzang on Nov 29, 2009 10:11 AM EST reply actions  

… which was why I made that clear in the recap. Whining about officiating in a close game is easy and will always muddy the debate.

In a blowout, you can examine individual instances on their own without looking like you think they were the reason for the outcome.

Lighthouse Hockey: Side effects may include Weight gain and frequent game loss.

by Dominik on Nov 29, 2009 2:25 PM EST up reply actions  

I thought that call on Park kinda deflated this team a bit

after having to kill that 5-3 I thought that third goal was just knife that killed them. Sometimes there are games like this in the course of the season where a bad call like that will kill a team. Much harder for a younger team to put those behind them and look to climb back in.

I thought it was the matter of a bad call by the officials and bad breaks (Witt’s and Biron’s sticks breaking on that 5-3) that were difference makers here. Maybe the expectations for this team have risen too to unrealistic levels lately as well. I see this season a lot like the Isles 91/92 season. DeHaan and Hamonic next season will probably be the Malakhov and Kasparatus this team needs next season.

by Chickendirt on Nov 29, 2009 2:34 PM EST up reply actions  

It seemed to be the last deflating straw, in a game where they were already climbing uphill and not getting anywhere.

Yeah, this season overall, the expectations are tricky. It’s good for them to stay close to the pack for as long as possible, get a taste of being in it night in and night out and come back hungry and with more talent next year.

Lighthouse Hockey: Side effects may include Weight gain and frequent game loss.

by Dominik on Nov 29, 2009 2:37 PM EST up reply actions  

last thing I read on Frans was that...

his injury was being “evaluated”. Keep your fingers crossed and / or pray.

by BCISLEMAN on Nov 29, 2009 10:52 AM EST reply actions  

As terrible of a loss as this was, a friend of mine said something to me last night that made me feel better: The Isles have just completed their second NHL-.500 month of this season- even though they have played more road games, had longer road trips, and had more back-to-back and games in 3 of 4 nights than than most other teams have had. If the Islanders can get through situations like that and still be 500, then when the situation isnt like that they should be able to pick up additional points in the standings. I know it is tough to be optimistic after a blowout loss like that Devs game, but I think the points are well taken.

Let Us Go, Islanders!
(Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)

by TheMetalChick on Nov 29, 2009 2:44 PM EST reply actions  

wrong +/-

Regarding Tavares, Okposo, Moulson, Hillen and Streit being minus-2 in this game – that’s wrong. For whatever reason, the NHL has these five guys listed on the ice for the 4:1 as well as the 5:1. There clearly were Park, Jackman, Thompson, Witt and Gervais on for the 4:1, though. Do they ever correct such mistakes?

by BenHasna on Nov 29, 2009 7:26 PM EST reply actions  

Ooh, nice catch

THANKS for that. It looked like they’d just changed lines, which is probably how the discrepancy developed.

I’d have to guess that they do correct such mistakes, but I haven’t heard of it specifically occurring. As of now, the game summary has yet to be changed. Hmmm…

Lighthouse Hockey: Side effects may include Weight gain and frequent game loss.

by Dominik on Nov 29, 2009 9:49 PM EST up reply actions  

done

officially corrected :-)

by BenHasna on Dec 1, 2009 7:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Sweet

So it CAN happen. Good to know…

Lighthouse Hockey: Side effects may include Weight gain and frequent game loss.

by Dominik on Dec 1, 2009 10:07 PM EST up reply actions  

brutal

i was at the game with 7 devil fans (2 ranger fans, and a flyers fan) and i had to take taunting from my cousin’s 3 year old…

thanks boys for the solid game, biron still looking like he’s going to bring in a 1st rounder BC?

why isn't #16 hanging in the rafters?

by bob l on Nov 30, 2009 11:19 AM EST reply actions  

Ugh

I was worried about you there. That is some rough company you keep.

I guess bringing up last year’s two thumpings of the Devils wouldn’t help much.

Lighthouse Hockey: Side effects may include Weight gain and frequent game loss.

by Dominik on Nov 30, 2009 11:32 AM EST up reply actions  

Might be like Guerin’s trade last year in which there will be clauses depending on how far into the playoffs the team is how high of a pick we get.

Lets just hope this year Snow adds in “If you get to the Cup Finals, we get a first”

"So basically, the Stats make no sense whatsoever."

by Mark D on Nov 30, 2009 11:41 AM EST up reply actions  

didn't watch the game myself but...

from Dom’s description, Biron acquitted himself well. I think that, assuming DP is healthy and Garth does decide to move Biron, he would probably rate a second rounder…but if a few teams started competing, he might get a late first rounder. More likely a second though.

by BCISLEMAN on Nov 30, 2009 12:27 PM EST up reply actions  

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